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Getting High For The Sake Of Art

bogey_j

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i'm a musician...an artist...poet....whatever you wanna call it. I like to get fucked up and create art, whether its on a canvas or making beautiful white noise with my stratocaster. Getting high allows me to see things from a new perspective when i'm exhausted with the mundane (i hate sobriety). My question though: Is this a cop-out? Am I any less of an addict because i'm doing it for the sake of art?
 
If anything, your less of an "artist" If you can't create in your natural state. I wish i had this cop out.
 
Youre definitely not any less of an addict.

I do my job better when I do some dope

before work, but I know im an addict still.
 
^wut? How is getting addicted to drugs any form of art? You would enjoy being addicted to a drug? Take your head out of your ass and stop believing every book you read.
 
You have to answer such questions as:
Do you like what you created being high?
Do you use drugs when you're not about doing something?

But hey, your post sounds like "getting high is a bad thing, am I a bad person?"
Getting high is NOT a bad thing (addiction IS).

So go create your own worlds with or without drugs, don't let drugs ruin your life, etc, etc ;)
 
You have to answer such questions as:
Do you like what you created being high?
Do you use drugs when you're not about doing something?

But hey, your post sounds like "getting high is a bad thing, am I a bad person?"
Getting high is NOT a bad thing (addiction IS).

So go create your own worlds with or without drugs, don't let drugs ruin your life, etc, etc ;)

i'm not always high when creating, but getting fucked up allows me to dig deeper into myself and use what i find in he creative process. its a lot harder to do that sober

and yes I like to get high even when i'm not creating but its the experience itself that translates to my art
 
Good work on whoever re-opened this. Valid topic for discussion in the forum IMO.

I believe the best art is gleaned from the insight and well, experience that your experiences give you. Whatever form they may take...
 
getting fucked up is fun

you really dont need to find a reason for that

its just fun, enjoy it:)
 
drugs do not produce good art. they just make you think your art is good and may or may not appeal to other people on drugs.

i only use drugs to overcome my crippling anxiety/inhibitions about producing art- and stimulants usually work the best for that, as they make me more focused and actually increase (or at least don't fuck too much with) my fine motor skills.
the art still comes from my own head, though. stimulants just make them sound awesome instead of stupid (if your main problem is confidence, as mine is) using drugs to inspire you to create art is cliche and pretentious and is usually used as a substitute for real creativity- not that i'm saying you don't have any, but to me something individual is better than the same type of drugged up art everyone creates on psychedelics because you're not really able to do much.
i don't look down upon using psychedelics to inspire ideas and then doing them sober, but i choose not to due to anxiety on psychedelics/me having enough ideas as it is/stimulants give me more awesome ideas anyway.

tl;dr- stimulants are underrated when it comes to art. they inspire you, disinhibit you, and most importantly, don't impair your motor skills so much that you can't MAKE ART.

(i'm mainly referring to drawing/painting here, i know art covers more than that and what i say may not apply)

Also, psychedelics, delierants, depressants and opioids are all associated with a marked decline in basic, reality based congnitive function, but stimulants can leave more or less able to do things like math, drive a car or use a computer without fucking up. so if you actually want to make art that sober people will appreciate, try stims.

edit: tl;dr, stimulants are an underrated drug for art. boost confidence and bring the ideas out of your own head rather than having to fake creativity on psychedelics. they also don't impair your motor function. this is important for most types of art if you want to make something that people appreciate sober, try stims. because all that matters when i'm high on psychedelics (mdma at least) is bright colours. high people are not exaclty a critical audience. they won't give you the criticism you need to advance.

that is, if you want to be a serious, successful artist (sellout!) or a ~free spirit~
your choice, ultimately.
also, to answer your question- if you have to ask, you know it's true. you've basically told us "i am an addict that justifies it by saying i do it for art" and i can only speak for myself, but i prefer people who can just say "i am an addict" and not justify it. even if i didn't respect addicts, i'd still respect you more for owning up to it and not deluding yourself.

Haha, seems stims are underrated for writing long posts :D

But I can't agree with you. You generalise defintly too much. What doesn't help you may help others. Eg. I'd risk a bet that most musicians in some generes (not the ones shown mostly on MTV, who btw probably snort a lot) do psychodelics or depressants and it helps them in their creation process.


I think it's inspiration somehow similiar to watching other artists or seeing new places.


I didn't try to do many artsy things (some photos, few pencil/pen drawings) on drugs, but I often get ideas about photos or video clips I write down and when I read them sober I enjoy them too.

Stims, as you say, are a bit different thing. You do things nearly as you would do without them, just faster, with more motivation and less anxiety.

So once again: if you do commit art after drugs and you are happy with it after some time (prefarably when sober ;) ), do it.

And once again: addiction ain't no good... ;]

sry for my English, hope my message is understanable ;)

pzdr ;)
 
Nope, you just have another excuse to do drugs. =D

yeah, i guess

but man there's nothing better than tripping on acid and picking up a guitar and just playing. just total freedom. i should really record some of my jam sessions
 
homework is much more fun on heroin, i right more and dont get bored so easily.

but dont send your teachers emails about why you didnt do your homework cause you were TOO high. I tlooked like this.

Sorrrry i dindt do my hwmework i didntt have my bkok
 
Drugs don't produce good art? Tell that to Tool, Jefferson Airplane, the Dead, Pink Floyd and the myriad of other musical artists who take/took inspiration from their drug experiences and transformed it into art that touched millions.

Pffft. Tell Hemingway, and Hunter S., and Kerouac, and Kesey and Poe and Blake and the other writers who were often twisted out of their skulls on various intoxicants that drugs don't help produce good art.

Drugs may not neccesarilly=good art to any schlob who chews them down, but certain drugs in the systems of certain people can result in amazing artwork.
 
you are just using drugs as an "excuse" to be creative. i used to do the same thing when i used, my level of creativity has remained the same.
 
I feel i am a better creator as far as music while under the influence, although i am technically a better player while sober.
 
yet another retarded concept developed by ignorant politicians... Guys stop fucking calling yourself ADDICTS, the people that want to ruin your life because you do drugs want you to call yourself an addict. I refer only to Opiate/benzo (and MAYBE long-term Alcohol) users here for MAINLY opiates are the only truly "addictive" substance on this planet. Don't argue with me about this either for if you don't think the same then you have never taken opioids/opiates to the point of dependency.

god just think about it guys... Just like we need vitamins to survive and feel good, same concept can be used for people on opiates... arg im done
 
agreed, not everyone is "sucked in" by the drug, but rather choose's it, because its what they enjoy, consequences be damned.

I've had more fun in a few years of stim abuse then I know my 70 year old relatives have had in 50 years of toil, hard work, and church.
 
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