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Getting Caught With Track Marks

Aww man this is classic, my gf now ex....LOL, broke up due to my tracks. But you live and learn, the best way is to use the top of your hand or in the wrist, no one can see those. Make sure you use new needles and vitamin E oil helps promote healing as well. Or your tibial vein by your foots ankle, i have a track there but who is going to check your foot. Socks cover that nicely ;). Current GF is hardcore christian and shes none the wiser...haha
 
euphoricnod said:
Anothy Kiedis is a self centered fuck if I've ever heard of one. Have you read his autobiography? UGH. Its the only book I've ever used for kindling.

As for the trackmarks cat scratches are good excuses, plasma donations are the other.
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Yea, I read "Scar Tissue." I agree he is pretty damn self centered. I have no clue how he can stay clean now, with his history, and all the money he has.
 
My cousins boyfriend of like 5 years would come to everyfamily event nodding soo hard and he had track marks all up his arms. No one in my family not even my cousin new he would always just be like uhh Ive been working alot so im mad tired and I was like nah bro u nodding like a champ and i called him out on the track marks infront of my cuz because he would steal from her and shit and I dont care if he shoots but if he stealin from my cuz then ima say sum shit. No one in my family ever believed me and my cuz didnt think he was stealin from here she had the nerve to try and blame me! Well he dropped a bag while noddin out at christmas a couple years ago and he had a bottle of oxy on him then they finally realized what a scumbag he was and it was alll good but yea sorry for the story but the point of that whole story is that most people who dont kno anything about drugs wouldnt even think they were track marks so you are probably fine man.
 
Capone: could you repeat that in English?

Re the value of this thread: dealing with track marks is a primary reason I've thought about quitting. The shame and public stigma I'm sure have led a lot of people to quit, so yeah I think there is absolutely harm reduction value in this topic. Anything that makes you want to kick the habit is harm reduction!

MUVOLUTION: I get pain meds on a monthly basis because of ongoing back pain and now an edema in my lower extremities that no one can figure out. Walking is painful.

I have mentioned before that the drugs aren't always necessary, but the problem is twofold: I can't predict when the pain is going to be bad - sure, there are weeks that go by when I feel like I could do without the drugs, then I have a flare up and really need them.

The other issue is withdrawals - as much as I'd like to only take the meds when needed, I've been using this stuff for two years, so like it or not I'm dependent. You can't just take opiates here and there a few times a week, so in the end it's better that I just take them regularly.

And that is what has led to my track marks - 4 times a day tends to leave a mark! And I haven't collapsed a vein, the "line" down my arm is the result of lots of little red dots as seen from a few feet away. If my vein had collapsed I wouldn't be able to keep using in that spot!

Anyway, for a lot of reasons but primarily because I dont want to be a walking poster boy for IV drugs, I'm going to at least try to cut down my usage. Fortunately my IV spots are not on the underside of the arm where most people expect to find them, so if someone were to take blood they wouldn't even see them (my marks are on the SIDE of my arm).

I do use vitamin e gel, as well as Neosporin, but with daily injections the marks just dont have time to heal. I have to give it a week before the marks start to fade. And my body has always been slow to heal, so that works against me as well.

I'm just concerned that one of these days the marks are going to get me into a corner I can't get out of so i was curious how my fellow BLers deal with it.

But ultimately, the only real way to make sure no one sees your track marks is to NOT HAVE ANY.

Actually, for those of you who have read this far, I'm curious - what role have track marks had in your desire to quit, or at least cut back on usage? Maybe I'm weird, but not wanting to get caught with them is a real motivating factor for me. I mean I seem to be handling my usage, and my life isn't spiraling out of control... But the marks worry me more than anything.
 
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My doctor asked if I had given blood recently when he saw mine as he was taking my blood.
I said no...
Thinking back, I prob should have said yes Haha
 
Unfortunately a "cover story" like that won't work when you have dozens of little marks... Unless you can convince the doc that you're addicted to giving blood and you do it 4 times a day!

And if your doctor believes that, for god's sake FIND ANOTHER DOCTOR!
 
ive also heard mederma works well for scar tissue in conjunction with vitamin E.

i was in rehab with a kid a few years ago that had more tracks on him than the B&O railroad. they were EVERYWHERE. up his arms down his arms, all over his wrists, even had some on his legs, bunch on his feet, tho they didnt really look the same as the ones on his arms.

but man, everyone in there, even the oldest hardiest addicts were like DAMN junior, you need to learn how to do that better, your arms are all fucked up...lol
 
Just say that you have been welding. All sorts of hot sparks burn your skin when welding.
 
Why not shoot elsewhere, like on the ankles or legs? I've heard of people shooting between their toes...
 
Shooting "below the belt" can more easily lead to infection. Let's face it, your arms stay a lot cleaner than your feet!

The welding thing is a good idea, but I doubt welding marks would trace a perfect line up my arm which exactly traces the location of my vein :-) I guess that's the one good thing about track marks: it's a road map of where to inject!

I'll see if I can post a pic. I'll show you mine if you show me yours!
 
MySecret said:
Why not shoot elsewhere, like on the ankles or legs? I've heard of people shooting between their toes...
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I think that's a myth, as there are not any veins that you can hit between the toes. If you're talking about on the top of the foot, then that's a different story. Those veins are small, but you can hit them.
 
John_Burrows said:
Shooting "below the belt" can more easily lead to infection. Let's face it, your arms stay a lot cleaner than your feet!

The welding thing is a good idea, but I doubt welding marks would trace a perfect line up my arm which exactly traces the location of my vein :-) I guess that's the one good thing about track marks: it's a road map of where to inject!

I'll see if I can post a pic. I'll show you mine if you show me yours!
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I will address your point in a minute, but I will say if you're worried about track marks, switching to your leg or something would be a great idea to let your arm heal. Now as for your concern about infection, do one of your injections right after you get out of the shower, and for the other times, it takes literally ONE minute to clean whatever area you want. Your legs are huge and FULL of veins, you could give your arms a nice needed break. As I stated before, if you're worried about infection, go get a wash cloth and clean the area really quick. In your case you're a pain patient and from reading your posts I know you IV because you have to, especially with the hydromorphone. I see no reason for you to have track marks, and understand why you don't want them. So start using your legs to give your arms a break, spending the 30 seconds to a minute to clean the spot thoroughly to avoid infection is well worth it, and could pretty much make the track marks non existent ;)
 
Well Cyrax i think you are right in saying while leg IV do have more potential for infection, as long as you keep yourself clean it shouldnt be any worse than your arms.

My problem is my body HATES showing where my veins are :-( I had to use touch to feel for the veins in my arms, and considering how much "beefier" the legs are, it's going to be a challenge to say the least. Certainly there are no places on my legs where veins are obvious.

But I think you're right and it's worth a try to find some place else to give the arms a break.

The real issue is that when it's time for my meds, I dont just inject once, I space out the solution so I get 4 or 5 shots per "session." I like doing this, it makes my IV sessions into an "event" that lasts an hour or two (I generally wait 10 or 15 mins between shots, and I do get a mild rush each time).

I've experimented and if I shoot all 16mg at once, I don't get a high 5 times as strong; I get the same feeling whether i go with 16 or 4mg in one shot, so I feel like it's a waste to do it all at once, hence my 4 or 5 shots per go.

This is why i have an issue with track marks - instead of 3 or 4 injections a day, it's more like 15!
 
John_Burrows said:
Well Cyrax i think you are right in saying while leg IV do have more potential for infection, as long as you keep yourself clean it shouldnt be any worse than your arms.

My problem is my body HATES showing where my veins are :-( I had to use touch to feel for the veins in my arms, and considering how much "beefier" the legs are, it's going to be a challenge to say the least. Certainly there are no places on my legs where veins are obvious.

But I think you're right and it's worth a try to find some place else to give the arms a break.

The real issue is that when it's time for my meds, I dont just inject once, I space out the solution so I get 4 or 5 shots per "session." I like doing this, it makes my IV sessions into an "event" that lasts an hour or two (I generally wait 10 or 15 mins between shots, and I do get a mild rush each time).

I've experimented and if I shoot all 16mg at once, I don't get a high 5 times as strong; I get the same feeling whether i go with 16 or 4mg in one shot, so I feel like it's a waste to do it all at once, hence my 4 or 5 shots per go.

This is why i have an issue with track marks - instead of 3 or 4 injections a day, it's more like 15!
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I noticed a very thick, purple vein directly above my ankle... Do you have one?
 
Please don't shoot into your legs and feet! Its a dangerous alternative if you have any spots left in your arms.
 
at the hospital recently I used my nails to scratch my arms over top of the marks, and said I got scratched up playing with a dog.
 
my excuse is i slept on someones lawn the other day due too tequila and the mosquitos love my blood :o

though im pretty good at hitting and let my arms heal so ive never had too say anything
 
MySecret said:
Why not shoot elsewhere, like on the ankles or legs? I've heard of people shooting between their toes...
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it's not recommended to shoot in your body's extremities. for example there is low blood flow and smaller/thinner veins which make (partial)missed shots more likely as a result of rolling veins.

thanks for stealing my avatar;) looks like i need a new one again.
 
Its not YOUR avatar it is clearly flipped, get over yourself lefty, jeez. ;)
 
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