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General Heroin Discussion 20 v. Walking Around in Women's Underwear

The first time that I experienced that warm and fuzzy feeling was on a whim.

I was 17 and had a bad day, so i called my buddy who had the hookup. He said he'd do it for free.
I had never taken a Norco 10 before that time, mind you. I was completely unaware of what I was about to endure.

I asked him if I could eat it or smoke it or snort it, but he insisted that I bang, telling me that "any other way is a waste."
So I guess I had to be down.
I'd already been prepared. Had a clean, unused rig, and let him work with the powder and spoons and fire, and, yeah.

So he stuck the point of that needle into the cigarette filter and pulled, told me to sit under him. He couldn't find a vein at first, until another friend if mine tied a belt around malt arm. After applying the makeshift torniquet, the only issue was my nervous shaking.
I relaxed my arm and looked down at it. I felt a small poke and watched as he drew my blood, and then, there it was..
Bam.
Well, not exactly..
I Sat there about 5 seconds later not feeling it. My buddy suggested I stand up, so I did.

"I don't feel anyth- mmmmff...uck.."

I pretty much fell into the wall, just taking in that amazing, irreplaceable rush.
I sat down and smoked the best damn cigarette ever.

My voice wad very soft and my eyelids and feet were heavy. I sat on the couch watching my pal's girlfriend play a video game, which was a bit difficult because my eyes kept rolling every which way.

I felt nauseated and did throw up outside, but I expected that, and it's nothing that would ruin the high, (or any high for that matter).

The ride home wad of course beautiful and a bit "existential," if I were to put it in words. Looking out the window and rubbing against the seat of the car.

I got home and was sweating profusely. My grandmother pointed this out. I just told her that it was warm in his car. (Yea I know. )

I layed in my bed all night, with no desire or intention to sleep.
For some reason, an American Dad scene kept playing in my head... the one where he takes pills that hive him energy, and he says, "wow, I feel really good. Not jittery, but, wired. I feel like I drank a small coffee at 7pm."
It's beyond me why that was what I thought about all night, while rubbing against my sheets and being more thankful for blankets than I ever have been in my life.

I have snorted it occasionally since then, probably once, or twice a year. I'd suggest that if you're going to do it, just be careful.

I personally had an amazing time and have a special place in my heart for smack.
 
Rastarish206 said:
How come? Are you not using currently? Sorry if you've been over this, I'm new to actually joining the conversation here. Anyone else around from the nyc area?
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It basically boils down to 15 years of take home methadone and losing your connections,the biggest downside of MMT. So here I sit,in a lo dose methadone holding pattern,waiting for Mr./Mrs. right to come along. It's not that I hav'nt been trying,I just won't be middled to death for crappy dope. I guess I'm just stubborn like that.
 
I got wasted on bars yesterday and quit my job after an altercation with a coworker oops.

Yeah and the constipation from methadone is easier to manage than from suboxone for me which seems ass backwards
 
I always find it funny when I see someone write about their "first time" and they remember EVERYTHING! man, all these drugs havent fucked up your brain/memory!? I could NOT TELL YOU when I first tried dope; not even my first time shooting it. I dont remember the first time I got high or anything; I was already addicted to pills before moving to dope, so its not like it was anything new, but have NO MEMORY WHATSOEVER of the time I bought or first shot.

anyway, I hate when I take a suboxone in the AM and later that night I get my dealer calling me for a deal, or bump into the wrong person, and end up buying a G and fucking wasting it. I hate 8MG bupe around 11AM today and already shot through a G of dope since 9PM and feel next to nothing. yes, SLIGHT rush on the 2 shots but NOTHING after.
 
Veteran, still dabbling
NYC is still as strong as it ever was
God Bless delivery services, and suboxone for when I need to come back down to Earth
over and out
 
BostonBrownTown said:
I always find it funny when I see someone write about their "first time" and they remember EVERYTHING! man, all these drugs havent fucked up your brain/memory!? I could NOT TELL YOU when I first tried dope; not even my first time shooting it. I dont remember the first time I got high or anything; I was already addicted to pills before moving to dope, so its not like it was anything new, but have NO MEMORY WHATSOEVER of the time I bought or first shot.

anyway, I hate when I take a suboxone in the AM and later that night I get my dealer calling me for a deal, or bump into the wrong person, and end up buying a G and fucking wasting it. I hate 8MG bupe around 11AM today and already shot through a G of dope since 9PM and feel next to nothing. yes, SLIGHT rush on the 2 shots but NOTHING after.
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HA I know!!!! Used to happen to me all the time while on Subutex. I used to tell my dude, call me but tell me it won't be available for 48 hours after you call. Otherwise I might as well bang water and get the same effect.
 
I first tried dope 14 years ago, at around age 21.. And I was opiate-naive at the time, so I remember a lot of that first experience. It was heavenly, and since I had very little similar experience to compare it to, I remember thinking it was "like weed, in the sense that i feel a veil between me and the world, but without the annoying anxiety and paranoia that almost always accompany weed, and instead a warmth and confidence and a suppression of cares and anxieties." Funny, it's pretty spot on, and why I continue to dabble here and there. I'm basically self-medicating long-term anxiety and depression with this drug (well, both heroin and cocaine -- speedballs have become the standard IV for the last 6 years -- all the warmth and confidence, without the annoying and productivity-sapping nods). But if I had to do it all over again, I'd probably steer clear. This shit has cost me in so many ways over the last decade-and-a-half. Really isn't worth it in the end.

And re: shooting dope while on buprenorphine... I haven't done this in a long time, because i've become a bit more disciplined about when i use dope versus bupe, but on the last few occasions when i shot dope while already on 8mg of bupe, it went right through the bupe and got me properly high. It really depends on the amount of dope, the quality, and route of administration. For some users, all it might take of some of this NYC powder is two bags, and it will leave you leaning for hours against random parked cars, even if you're on 8mg of bupe.
 
Hola everyone. Been cruising this site for awhile, finally posting. A bit stressed out because I have nothing for the morning which I absolutely hate being in this position but here I am. I think I have a plan for when I wake up though, just not sure if I can execute it or not yet. Reminds me of when I was in this shit a lot deeper and I never could save anything for morning but lately I've managed to so I'm a little scared to go to bed knowing what awaits me in the morning. Ah well. Hopefully posting in this thread will be just as entertaining as reading it. Nice to meet everyone!
 
Oh my gosh, I haaaate that. Not having shit for the morning IS scary. Its not a good feeling. :S I know what you mean when you say you don't wanna go to bed for fear of what awaits you in the morning... iiiiick.

I have a shot for tomor morning then tomorrow night. Then I'm going to switch back over to suboxone. At least that's the plan. I just don't know how I feel about that. Heroin just feels so good. Sure, the game sucks... sucks the life right out of you.

Anyway, I'm waiting for a friend to come over with a fair amount of coke.: Gonna IV mostly. He can't hit, though so I have to... which makes me a little uncomfortable. Its a little late on a Thursday to be shooting coke... I hope I get enough sleep to function at work!
 
I woke up feeling like death of course and the plan that I had went to shit when the person I was counting on to pick up their phone wasn't answering so that would have made me extremely angry except I didn't have the energy to really react. Meh, but thank god someone came thru to help a girl out and although I'm def not high, I am most certainly off Ë. Thank the lord for that =) I need to find some subs because that was unbearable. Hope everyone has a great day!
 
woamotive said:
Oh my gosh, I haaaate that. Not having shit for the morning IS scary. Its not a good feeling. :S I know what you mean when you say you don't wanna go to bed for fear of what awaits you in the morning... iiiiick.

I have a shot for tomor morning then tomorrow night. Then I'm going to switch back over to suboxone. At least that's the plan. I just don't know how I feel about that. Heroin just feels so good. Sure, the game sucks... sucks the life right out of you.

Anyway, I'm waiting for a friend to come over with a fair amount of coke.: Gonna IV mostly. He can't hit, though so I have to... which makes me a little uncomfortable. Its a little late on a Thursday to be shooting coke... I hope I get enough sleep to function at work!
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I've found that when running out, that last bit never works because the fear of waking up feeling like shit overpowers anything good you could feel.
 
WOA, you got this! Although I don't recommend the white as that is gonna make coming down and getting off the other stuff suck tenfold worse trust me, ive been at hat crossroad time and time before and am done with that unless there is a large opioid supply on hand and even then it still is not worth it at all for such the minimal pleasure v. Pain ratio.. Be strong girl you got this!
 
I haven't had dope in 7 days. I have just been smoking weed for the most part. Though I have taken 1mg of Xanax 2 times this week. I thin that's pretty damn good myself. Quitting my job was the best thing I could have done for my mental health. I'm just not ready for a 40 hour week job and the pressure that comes with it. I'm gonna find part time work and keep on doing therapy and methadone. I've decided that my recovery needs to be on my terms and my timeline. I'm blessed that my family is on board with that.

I know I'm still probably on the methadone pink cloud a little bit because I still feel it when I dose everyday. But it is so much better than my experience with suboxone. Not only do I not have cravings I actually get the warm glow feeling I never ever got from sub. I may change my mind later but so far methadone is the best treatment decision I have made since I started opiates.
 
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hey crimson, good for you. really.

and long time no post, team nod. i've been really cutting back on getting shit. ive been trying to afford my ticket and transportation to Camp Bisco this year + i did not want to have to have heroin for the weekend. i've been trying to use as little as possible and supplement what i can with benzos.

however, i just got a free half gram of some killer dark brown dope + 8 10mg valium for free so you bet your ass im hopping on team nod for the night. do some dabs of this sour diesel crumble and call it a night.

how have all y'all been?
 
crimsonjunk said:
I haven't had dope in 7 days. I have just been smoking weed for the most part. Though I have taken 1mg of Xanax 2 times this week. I thin that's pretty damn good myself. Quitting my job was the best thing I could have done for my mental health. I'm just not ready for a 40 hour week job and the pressure that comes with it. I'm gonna find part time work and keep on doing therapy and methadone. I've decided that my recovery needs to be on my terms and my timeline. I'm blessed that my family is on board with that.

I know I'm still probably on the methadone pink cloud a little bit because I still feel it when I dose everyday. But it is so much better than my experience with suboxone. Not only do I not have cravings I actually get the warm glow feeling I never ever got from sub. I may change my mind later but so far methadone is the best treatment decision I have made since I started opiates.
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I wish methadone would have worked for me. One of my cars blew up when I had been on MMT for about 6 months. The stupid clinic I went to would not give take homes under any circumstances before 6 months even though I had IDF screens each time, went to counseling, proved I had a family and had to drive at least 45 miles each way to get there before they shut the clinic down at 12:00 P.M. When I missed three days in a row, they cut my dose down drastically and then put me on AWD. Oh my gosh, the fucking absolute hell that ensued was enough to scare me into trying Subutex and doing whatever I could to stay clean. The only thing Subutex didn't do for me was stop the cravings and the grimy bullshit thinking (what family member can I lie to get money, how do I get my doctor to up my script, etc). I still shot dope while on Subutex as if I'd never stopped. Methadone actually helped me stay away from dope. It helped me get my life back together. The strict rules, though, were a joke. That might be fine to someone not working or single without kids but not a woman who, at the time, had a husband and 3 children to care for.
 
Monchhichi said:
I wish methadone would have worked for me. One of my cars blew up when I had been on MMT for about 6 months. The stupid clinic I went to would not give take homes under any circumstances before 6 months even though I had IDF screens each time, went to counseling, proved I had a family and had to drive at least 45 miles each way to get there before they shut the clinic down at 12:00 P.M. When I missed three days in a row, they cut my dose down drastically and then put me on AWD. Oh my gosh, the fucking absolute hell that ensued was enough to scare me into trying Subutex and doing whatever I could to stay clean. The only thing Subutex didn't do for me was stop the cravings and the grimy bullshit thinking (what family member can I lie to get money, how do I get my doctor to up my script, etc). I still shot dope while on Subutex as if I'd never stopped. Methadone actually helped me stay away from dope. It helped me get my life back together. The strict rules, though, were a joke. That might be fine to someone not working or single without kids but not a woman who, at the time, had a husband and 3 children to care for.
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I totally agree with you about the rules being very unrealistic. I'll never get take homes because I smoke weed. The part that really bothers me is the cost. It's 16 dollars a day here which adds up to more than 5 grand a year.

Thanks for the kind words Jeebis! I hope your doing well.
 
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