General Heroin Discussion #18 - v. Stupidity ain't no badge of honor

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^ The best thing that you can do (aside from quitting or taking an actual break) is try my idea of doing just enough to get well / slight buzz on most days, and then use a few more bags every 3-4 days to get an actual high. Otherwise you're just going to be stuck spending all of your money on dope and having a huge tolerance. So instead of chasing the high by doing more, do less and let it come to you once you've lowered your tolerance a bit and have it close enough to where it only takes a bit more to get high.

If I had a ton of money I know that I could get up to shooting at least a bundle a day within 5-6 days of going hard. That's a pain in the ass to maintain though, so instead I went with 2 bags a day to get by, and 4-5 twice a week to get high. I've been at it with dope since 2006 and 5 bags is still enough to get me high due to the way I have spaced it out. I'm not proud of any of this and it's sad that this is an accomplishment of mine, but if you're going to do it it's best to know ways to keep yourself from spiraling out of control.

That's the other thing. If you can make it 20-24 hours between doses then that will help a lot too. Once you start doing shots every 12 hours then your body will start expecting that and getting sick 8 hours after your last shot. But if you do it once every 24 hours then your body will wait close to that amount of time before feeling sick, so making it 20 hours should be no sweat, and by 24 it will hit you but the dope will hit you too if you waited that long. Waiting that long is easier said than done, but if you're going to balance this thing without getting too out of control it's pretty necessary.
 
^I really have no sympathy for you if you make this decision...You'll get very sick without it...

I'm not askin for sympathy. Aren't u an iv user? It's not like I don't already get sick

31G 5/16th's will be way gentler on the veins and might be easier to hit with. Try both and see which one is easier for you to hit with.

Obviously, you should rethink this whole choice but.. you sound like your mind is pretty made up.
Yeah I found a different site with other options. Yeah I did make up my mind..maybe I'll rethink it over the night but idk
 
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Tomatilli, I don't know man. You're already in deep shit with this heroin thing. Its not like you're using like Tommyboy was at your age, going to school and having little runs here and there. You're doing as much as you possibly can every single day. Start with the needle and you'll be chained to it until something physically separates you from it!

There's some people who may be able to play with dope on and off for a few years before getting full-blpwn addicted, maybe even a few that can get away with it forever, but based on what you post here...You're not one of them!

What you don't read a lot about on here is how people are funding their addiction...A lot of people don't wanna talk about that aspect because it's not usually very glamorous...

I could go on and on about what it could make you do, but I'm sure you're already doing some of it.....Unless your parents are rich and giving you money everyday, or you're taking home $700 a week, you're gonna get in over your head, and that's when people end up in trouble...When you're sitting there dopesick at 7 pm without a cent to your name...it gets desperate! So, if you really wanna make this your life and devote yourself to shooting heroin, go ahead and do it...but it's a tough life man...
 
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have you tried plugging it up your ass first? I'm not a huge fan of that ROA but some people swear by it
 
Toma wrote- "How much should I shoot up to get the same high goin on?" and "I found a new place [methadone program]."
My heart sank when I read that you've made a decision to use the needle. While I understand your logic, and if you are like I was, the fascination with using a needle, shooting dope only served to move my addiction, and all the bullshit that goes along with addiction, into serious overdrive. What goes up must come down. The higher I rise, the harder I fall. How long before you get into a methadone program? I advise you to hold off shooting and continue sniffing until you go on the juice. While you might save a few dollars, your chances of dying increase significantly shooting hence you might never make it to the program. And if you don't end up getting on the program, most folks here would agree that you will be using as much dope, if not more, in just a few weeks shooting as you do now sniffing.
 
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you will be using as much dope, if not more, in just a few weeks shooting as you do now sniffing.

Yeah this. The whole, switching to the needle to save money, thing is kinda bullshit. That works for maybe a couple weeks, and then you're spending double what you ever where snorting. I hear that as a main excuse a lot of people use. They use it to justify switching from pills to dope, from snorting to shooting, etc. They find out real quick though that they where just delusional and seeking any justification they could.
 
Yeah I thought the same shit, oh I'm just gonna shoot up once since I only have this little bit and then go back to snorting
Lol delusional as fuck

I wish I would have listened to everything I've ever heard and seen about how horrible an iv addiction can be
And I'd bet anything that this dude will say the same thing to himself eventually like most of us did

Also, isn't he a younger cat?
Man shooting up and going on mmt kills me to see at a young age, you should be out fucking girls, doing fun drugs, having hobbies, not holed up some where in a dark room shooting dope

It's no way to live, sorry if I come off as condescending, but we've been through it and know how shitty it can be
 
^I came about as close to shooting as I could because of that reason. Stuck on a 16 hour shift at work, had like enough to get high once with snorting but was so desperate I decided I would try shooting to make it last me the whole day. I think most would say I was lucky, because I couldn't register on the first try and I knew it was taking me too long so I freaked out and just water-lined the shot up my nose.

I was ignorant about it trying for the first time, too. Didn't research enough and got my hands on a 25 or 26 g needle with a luer lock syringe. I didn't realize until after using it that the gauge was way larger than I should've been using. Never tried to IV again but the thought definitely crossed my mind, to the point where I got proper equipment (31 g insulin rigs and even got some micron filters) and on several occasions I had setup all the stuff and just sat there looking at them until I put them back where I had them hid.

I am sure if I did it I would like it too much and find it hard not to do it more and eventually use it as my only ROA like most do. But I am a hypochondriac, so the risks involved freak me out too much. I feel it would ruin my high a lot because I would be thinking about the possible health concerns around it. Obviously I am happy I never successfully shot dope at this point. This site has helped deter me a lot, because way more people say they regret the move than those who say they didn't if you look and find a thread about it (there is one, I know).
 
I went to a few different pharmacies and they said I needed a prescription for the needles but that's bullshit your aloud to get up to ten without a prescription in CT. Yeah the dudes questioning my age I'm 18 years old. I appreciate all the concerns guys
 
^ It's up to the pharmacist's discretion, of course he see's some young kid coming in for rigs that most likely doesn't have diabetes and of course he's going to turn you away, I'm sure you could find one who will sell them to you but they're just trying to help you like us bro, try to take it as a sign

You remind me of me Rtrain but obviously had more will power I guess when it came down to it
I knew all the risks, had been very enlightened to the health issues and down sides especially because of bl and ime's
Shit I had friends who already od'd, had abscess', and hep c

When it really came down to it I actually was in precipitated wd's though from taking sub too early and I knew .2 of dope snorted wouldn't push through, plus it was thanksgiving morning and I had to be well

Ever since then I shot anything that was shootable and it was even more of a downward spiral than I could have ever imagined
 
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But yeah man...idk what I'm gonna do I really wanna get rigs but I also know the risks but I almost don't care. Idk it anyone on here has snorted dope for as long as I have but my nose is getting really fucked up from this shit. I'm pretty sure I have a deviated septum, get bloody noses a lot and I have a constant cough from the dope going into my lungs. I wanna feel that rush that everyone talks about, my friend told me it's the greatest feeling in the world and the only time I shot up before when my friend did it I didn't get really get a good rush. Irdk what I'm gonna do I have some thinking to do. I don't think I'm ready to quit cus I love getting high yeah I should be going out with girls and friends but I usually stay home and snort dope if I'm not working
 
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I guarantee there is some one here who has snorted dope longer than you
And your friend is not lying, it is one of the best feelings in the world, but the downsides eventually out weigh that

That best feeling is numbness though, it isn't genuine
It got to the point where the only feelings I really had were being dope sick and then not enjoying the high when I finally got well on account of the guilt from the shit I just had to go through to get that little baggy of powder

Then of course I would just do more to cope with that guilt, I got tired of nodding out looking like retard at my pc all night and burning holes in my jeans

When I think of best feelings I think about natural warm rushes you get from hearing live music and people cheering, laying out in the sun being in love and smoking a joint with your girl, enjoying waking up in the morning and only being dependent on your own natural endorphins, traveling the world and meeting new people

It's hard to do all that shit strung out
 
I guarantee there is some one here who has snorted dope longer than you
And your friend is not lying, it is one of the best feelings in the world, but the downsides eventually out weigh that

That best feeling is numbness though, it isn't genuine
It got to the point where the only feelings I really had were being dope sick and then not enjoying the high when I finally got well on account of the guilt from the shit I just had to go through to get that little baggy of powder

Then of course I would just do more to cope with that guilt, I got tired of nodding out looking like retard at my pc all night and burning holes in my jeans

When I think of best feelings I think about natural warm rushes you get from hearing live music and people cheering, laying out in the sun being in love and smoking a joint with your girl, enjoying waking up in the morning and only being dependent on your own natural endorphins, traveling the world and meeting new people

It's hard to do all that shit strung out

Yes. Thanks for the reminders Bill ; ). I'm just coming back to the land of the living, it was always so much better then the land of the dopeheads...
 
But yeah man...idk what I'm gonna do I really wanna get rigs but I also know the risks but I almost don't care. Idk it anyone on here has snorted dope for as long as I have but my nose is getting really fucked up from this shit. I'm pretty sure I have a deviated septum, get bloody noses a lot and I have a constant cough from the dope going into my lungs. I wanna feel that rush that everyone talks about, my friend told me it's the greatest feeling in the world and the only time I shot up before when my friend did it I didn't get really get a good rush. Irdk what I'm gonna do I have some thinking to do. I don't think I'm ready to quit cus I love getting high yeah I should be going out with girls and friends but I usually stay home and snort dope if I'm not working

I've dealt with those problems, too. You won't get a deviated septum or perforated septum from snorting dope unless it has some nasty corrosive cut in it and you get that stuff a lot. Its just inflammation. Get some Flonase (fluticasone nasal spray) and a Flovent (fluticasone inhaler) if you can from a doctor and you will no longer have any issues. I get real bad from snorting opiates, after a week my nose is so inflamed and my lungs start to tighten up real bad, but those things keep me ok. They are just corticosteroids, fine to use daily. I stop using them when I take breaks like right now and there is no issues.
 
Also, isn't he a younger cat?
Man shooting up and going on mmt kills me to see at a young age, you should be out fucking girls, doing fun drugs, having hobbies, not holed up some where in a dark room shooting dope

It's no way to live, sorry if I come off as condescending, but we've been through it and know how shitty it can be

For real, I can't imagine having been strung out like that when I was just 18 year old. At that age I was working and going to college, and was visiting friends away at college at least a few times a semester, and having a great time messing around with girls from all over the place. You are only young once and can only get away with careless drinking and fooling around with nice 18 year old girls for a few more years, so put down the dope and enjoy it while you can.

But yeah man...idk what I'm gonna do I really wanna get rigs but I also know the risks but I almost don't care. Idk it anyone on here has snorted dope for as long as I have but my nose is getting really fucked up from this shit. I'm pretty sure I have a deviated septum, get bloody noses a lot and I have a constant cough from the dope going into my lungs. I wanna feel that rush that everyone talks about, my friend told me it's the greatest feeling in the world and the only time I shot up before when my friend did it I didn't get really get a good rush. Irdk what I'm gonna do I have some thinking to do. I don't think I'm ready to quit cus I love getting high yeah I should be going out with girls and friends but I usually stay home and snort dope if I'm not working

I snorted my dope from 2006-2012 and never had any issues like that. You shouldn't be sniffing hard enough for any of it to get into your lungs.
 
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