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General Election 2015

Which party would you cast your vote for?

  • Conservative

    Votes: 2 4.2%

  • Labour

    Votes: 8 16.7%

  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Greens

    Votes: 14 29.2%

  • UKIP

    Votes: 3 6.3%

  • BNP

    Votes: 2 4.2%

  • SNP

    Votes: 6 12.5%

  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 2 4.2%

  • None of the above (feel free to post in thread)

    Votes: 11 22.9%
  • Total voters
    48
  • Poll closed .
amazing the amount of english people wowed by her speech aswell, clearly labour have left a huge political vacuum in deserting the people they used to advocate for. Can labour recover from this lurch to the right? Who will represent the disenchanted and disenfranchised outside of scotland?
 
Ceres said:
Can labour recover from this lurch to the right? Who will represent the disenchanted and disenfranchised outside of scotland?
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Hey, welcome to my world since Tony Benn lost the deputy leadership election in 1981 (and by the width of a rizla at that)






PS In Wales, Plaid Cymru. Only major party to stand for the radical redistribution of wealth by taxation. But yeah, you meant England. And the Welsh Assembly obviously doesn't have a say over direct taxation.
 
from what I can see it looks like we basically have a corporatocracy, not a government acting on behalf of and in the interests of the people who live here. And we have these cunts in power all thanks to a handful of selfish ignorant pricks. Something has got to change. I wonder if the tories will fuck people over so badly the cabinet will end up the way Ceaușescu did. (and I feel I can't even say things like that incase I get put on some kind of government list, thanks to the culture of fear these fuckers are inculcating into the populace)
 
An attack on the working class, an attack on us all

Biggest crackdown on unions for 30 years

Because unions are too strong right? Because they still exist.

Days lost to strikes are currently running at 5% of the total lost in the 1970's.

The scale of the reforms goes far wider than the previously trailed plan for strikes to be made unlawful unless 50% of those being asked to strike vote in the ballot.
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In a set of proposals on a par with those introduced by Norman Tebbit in 1985, Sajid Javid, the business secretary, is also to require that at least 40% of those asked to vote support the strike in most key public services. In the case of 100 teachers asked to strike, the action would only be lawful if at least 50 teachers voted and 40 of them backed the strike.
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A reminder. 25% of the electorate voted for this government. This government that has an absolute majority.

This is heading towards Pinochet's Chile. That was called fascism.
 
I was pretty disgusted by the vast swathes of people moaning on about how "greedy" tube workers were when they chose to strike last week. Way to focus your resentment at the wrong fucking people.

Mhairi Black's speech was great, sure Labour will ignore it.
 
StoneHappyMonday said:
An attack on the working class, an attack on us all

Biggest crackdown on unions for 30 years

Because unions are too strong right? Because they still exist.

Days lost to strikes are currently running at 5% of the total lost in the 1970's.





A reminder. 25% of the electorate voted for this government. This government that has an absolute majority.

This is heading towards Pinochet's Chile. That was called fascism.
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Facism it is (see my post in what's app thread - i can't be buggered to repeat it) - as you know, pinochet's chile was the first practical try of neoliberalism/thatcherism (suspiciously initiated on september 11th (1973)) so it should look similar (thatch couldn't quite get away with the stadium executions though).

On the upside, good old len mcclusky seems to be living up to some of the radical-sounding things he said before the election: He's taken out a bit from their rules which says strikes have to be legal - how many actual members will break the law (outside the RMT) is another thing. I suppose it depends how bad it gets. The main problem with modern british unions is their lack of solidarity (they seem happy once their members have got their pay rise) - once they start breaking the law a bit, maybe they can start doing secondary strikes and general strikes again and we can actually get somewhere, if only to get the army out on the streets (ghandi-style being beaten up/killed by obviously superior forces is often our only chance (as long as it gets seen by someone) - we can't beat them with weapons cos they've got space lasers and robots and shit)
 
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I spoke to my mum about it the other week and she said she didn't want to enter in the first place. Both her and my brother say they'll vote for out - I was surprised but like you I realise I don't really know what to vote for the best...
 
StoneHappyMonday said:
An attack on the working class, an attack on us all

Biggest crackdown on unions for 30 years

Because unions are too strong right? Because they still exist.

Days lost to strikes are currently running at 5% of the total lost in the 1970's.





A reminder. 25% of the electorate voted for this government. This government that has an absolute majority.

This is heading towards Pinochet's Chile. That was called fascism.
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len mclucskey said if the government puts union action outside of the law, then the unions will have to act outside of the law (or words to that effect)

it is fucking disgraceful what they are doing. They want to maintain the slave labour pool for big corporations who can more than afford to pay ACTUAL living wage and give these people ACTUAL jobs not zero hour contracts.

This government does not serve its people.
 
I have my sign ready for any upcoming protests, this adequately expresses my dissatisfaction :

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Felix, fuck the loft yo, we need space lasers and robots. Now.

The EU (EEC anybody?) has always been largely nothing more than a capitalist wet dream, a single market for business not international socialism for the workers. It's why the Left opposed staying in in 1975. At that time we had people like Michael Foot on the same side as Enoch Powell. They never shared a platform so perhaps we shouldn't worry about potentially lining up with UKIP nutters now. It's unfortunate that in a black and white yes or no vote that we appear to be on the same side as neo-fascist idiots but that's just an accident of reasoning - and our reasoning is far removed to what the right believe. And if anything the real danger now, the real new fascism is the corporate single state entity that seeks to steamroller all opposition (see Greece, see Spain next) to a business elite that is creaming off the profits through nothing more than banking fixes with rules bent cruelly to benefit only one side.

The EU has nothing to do with internationalism. We don't need it. Owen Jones is right.
 
the thing is, if we leave the EU, what are we left with in the uk? The same government with the same ideology andnow a free reign to fuck even more people over with the repeal of the human rights act etc. The uk is turning into nothing more than a money laundering hub...I totally agree though, what is happening now is the systematic control of countries through debt and the IMF/ECB.
 
That's as may be, but if people wake up in a few years to what's happening and decide they want a progressive government, and Labour decide to change their quisling ways (not holding out too much hope), the EU will block any attempts made by the government to reel back from austerity and the eventual destruction of society.

I'm wanting out.
 
I remember reading, around 10 years ago, a report that the G20 had a meeting to discuss how to deal with the developing inequality gap in europe in the next 20 years. This included talking about how to use the military to keep down any public disorder.

http://cryptome.org/0005/rich-pander.pdf
 
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