Mysterious
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How exactly would you go about doing urine samples for subjects that were outside of the UK?
Ideally, the study will take place at University College London (off Tottenham Court Road).
~*geNeRaTiOn E*~ said:hmm, come to think of it, this may be better suited for European and African Drug Discussion as you'll find lots more possible participants. i'll leave a copy here just in case, though![]()
djremix said:Hi,
This seems very interesting and i wish you good luck with it.
But i just cant see how you will be comparing both groups?
will both groups be administered drugs before the tasks with one group including some k? and compared to placebo?
otherwise i cant see how the results may be relevant. unless your placebo group are such a close demographic match for the drug useing groups, which is probably impossible to find since the placebo i assume will be non users.
And even if you just want to find the differances without placebo as baseline, id still think drug administration, then monitoring during and for a few days after will give you most accurate results on k use effects.
i know i sound very pessimistic but let me explain myself, i know quite a few people who are regular users and some love k and some hate k.
and there are very successfull healthy groups from both crowds and also looser drop outs who just wanna get high in life with zero ambition for anything. this leeds me to believe there is a lot more going on in in these people brains AND lives than their choice of drug and how it affects them.
lastly, a friend of mine once spent a whole month in the gym doing a couple of bumps each time he went, and he actually improved his stats and didnt feel any negatives, while i on the other hand dont trust my brain-muscle connection while on k.
something to think about,
good luck![]()
Justin Grayer said:Hi,
I'm comparing three groups of people:
1. people who use k
2. people who use drugs (but not k)
3. peope who don't use drugs.
We hope to be able to match the groups on gender, age, years in education, and possibly pre-morbid IQ. Although this isn't perfect, it does remove some of the obvious confounding variables.
People aren't being given any drugs when they take part in the study, we're just seeing if there is a differnce in each group's performance on different tests, and their personal experiences. Previous controlled studies have given drug-niave people some k and monitored them at the time and three days later - that gives us an idea about what to look for and what to expect now that we are looking at people who use it recreationally.
I hope this answers some of your queries.
Cheers, Justin
PS. If anyone who fits group 2 or 3 is interested in taking part, please contact me!
Astavats said:Sounds interesting, I hope the end results are shared =)
djremix said:does it matter when the last time they used was(if any?) or will both 1st 2nd group be drug free for a week maybe?
sorry just asking.