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GBL Megathread 4: End of an Era?

SnrG said:
Could do with a few mls, but i'm just about back in the world, and its scarier than when i had my lost two months. If I got anymore, I doubt I'd surface before middle of january.
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It's going to be pretty quiet from now until mid-jan, what have you got to lose?
 
Grrrrrrrrrrrr. I'm so fucking angry at myself right now! I've just drank 4 pint cans of stella to help me sleep tonight, can you guess why?

Yes... I, me, mr. up his own arse "I've never been addicted to anything ever" has been pinned down and force fed some rather bitter humble pie. I have regrettably, unintentionally, stupidly, obliviously become mildly addicted to GBL.

I didn't even think i was doing it that often, I've never been addicted (defined by suffering withdraws when dosing of drug ends) to anything, and i've smoked crack, heroin taken 2cb, ket, acid, amt, mdma, nos, weed, speed god knows what else, countless times etc. you get the idea.

I didn't realise I was flirting with addiction until I stopped (duh) but my usage had been increasing to 2-4 times a day on average for 3 weeks, which occasional days off. Over the past 3 weeks I've used it roughly 5 times through the night to sleep. 3ml each and every dose, up the arse (thought i'd add that detail!)

I stopped when i noticed after 5 hours of not dosing i got a stuffy nose, was burping, had cramp in my leg and foot that wouldn't go away, had stomach upsets, minor head pain (not like any headache i've ever had before) found it harder to swallow without swallowing air, burping etc. producing more saliva, trouble sleeping, and sweating like a pig...

I then, at 5am, 4 hours with no luck sleeping, dosed 3ml and within 20mins I was feeling fine again... realised I was slightly addicted. Last night i could only sleep for 2 hours (instead of 4) per each 3ml dose. I did that thrice and got 6-7 hours forced gbl sleep. Today I wake up at 12:30pm, last dose 10:30am. I have roughly 30-40ml left and haven't touched it. All the symptoms return once more to hit home the addiction.

It's not been too bad, I think i'm lucky i caught on early, but the most poor aspect is, i was withdrawing when i went to meet a lady friend i am seeing. I get down to tesco's sweating lots, feeling very anxious all of a sudden, and find myself completely unable to think of conversation topics, everything seems forced, stilted. I rush around the shop with her getting stuff to make a chili pasta and later watch a film round mine together (a first)

I quickly realise what a sweaty mess I'm appearing and say I've got some illness/flu whatever that started earlier that day. Que an hour of shopping, walking to mine, cooking, making poor convo, feeling so self conscious and lost, with no alcohol. Also the chili pasta was too hot and i couldn't eat it, was sweating too much :(

Thank god i calmed down after an hour or so and appeared somewhat normal. So now, here I am, feeling slightly (but not enough, considering what I've drank) drunk, with my GBL looking at me, laughing at me. What a fucking joke. I was considering sneeking to the toilet to take some more, but with some help from treacle, decided against it. I feel ok now I'm drunk, I just hope I can sleep...

So what is this drunk withdrawing mess saying? It could happen to you! G bit me, luckily only slightly compared to some, but still... what bad timing...i guess I am only human, and a fuck up like everyone else! I will not be taking what I have left, even if I can't sleep tonight. I'll just work through this annoying set back. How very poor. *Slaps oneself*

Interesting though... I finally understand the urge to re-dose to feel normal again. But I can assure you I won't be touching it for a good while! </ drunken, withdrawing rant>
 
Good to hear you've realized you've been pulled in by lady juice's tight grip and are actively trying to mend the situation you've got yourself in.

Really really hope it goes alright for you man :)
 
Because to be honest, unless you understand what's going on and want to stop, no-one else saying anything will make much difference, same with any drug addiction.
 
Shambles said:
Oh I'm sure there'll be plenty that gets through customs but I can't see it becoming a major import. Some aficionados will import some for their own use but I can't see it becoming a street drug cos it's just too much of a pain in the arse to import and the demand for it isn't big enough to make it worth the effort.
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Any chance we could all get prescriptions for Xyrem? Bit pricy tho - I think 180ml is something like £700.
 

I stopped when i noticed after 5 hours of not dosing i got a stuffy nose, was burping, had cramp in my leg and foot that wouldn't go away, had stomach upsets, minor head pain (not like any headache i've ever had before) found it harder to swallow without swallowing air, burping etc. producing more saliva, trouble sleeping, and sweating like a pig...
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Oh I don't stop then....more is needed of course.Swallowing on withdrawal from 7 days, without medication for me is rather difficult....eating impossible 100% for at least 24 hours.
However 5 days off from it and you'll be ok again. For me these days its 2 weeks. Went for 8 weeks without earlier in the year and felt fine after 14 days...although that may be because I just swapped drugs of choice:|
I may be getting 1 more litre and then that will be the end of it, unless I go round all the metal working places in Sheffield...of which theres quite a few:D

PS don't think that 4 cans of stella will necessarily help you here, it may or may not. You didn't have that much of an addiction though so its possible, although the best hangover cure in the world is guice!.....
 
Is there a consensus on whether sodium GHB or GBL is worse for your health? I'm thinking of the additional strain on your body of metabolising GBL->GHB vs. the amount of sodium one ingests.
 
The amount of sodium is of more concern. It places quite a strain on the kidneys. GHB is, however, a much nicer drug.
 
Treacle said:
The amount of sodium is of more concern. It places quite a strain on the kidneys. GHB is, however, a much nicer drug.
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Would it be more healthy for your body if one were to use KOH instead of NaOH for the conversion?
Is potassium less damaging to your body that sodium?
 
I would say so. The quality and yield is inferior to the NaOH method, though, as far as I know.
 
Right, had GBL for the first time y'day (bad timing I know with the incoming ban), had 1ml felt good, had 1.7ml two hours later felt GREAT, then...AWFUL. Really ill as if i was about to throw up, had to lay down with a bucket next to me just incase. I didn't throw up but went immediately to sleep for an hour or so, woke up feeling better but a little out of sorts.

Is this a sign I didn't react well to it or is it fairly common? I want to try it again tonight as it felt amazing for a short while, I just dont want to experience any of the sickness again.
 
Droogs said:
Right, had GBL for the first time y'day (bad timing I know with the incoming ban), had 1ml felt good, had 1.7ml two hours later felt GREAT, then...AWFUL. Really ill as if i was about to throw up, had to lay down with a bucket next to me just incase. I didn't throw up but went immediately to sleep for an hour or so, woke up feeling better but a little out of sorts.

Is this a sign I didn't react well to it or is it fairly common? I want to try it again tonight as it felt amazing for a short while, I just dont want to experience any of the sickness again.
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Sounds like you dosed too much even 0.1ml-0.2ml difference in dose can change the effects quite a lot. Jumping up 0.7ml is far too much of a dose increase, if 1ml made you feel good why increase it so much next time?
 
Its a shame cause while it worked well it was amazing, and I could really see why people loved it. But I couldn't handle feeling terrible later after dosing if it's something that always remains.
 
it's not a common effect, you dosed too much, you shouldn't feel sick or be knocked out by recreational doses.
 
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