I think it would be more likely to cause harm than being diluted with water. I know it tastes awful - I still shudder thinking about the smell and taste one year from having my last dose - but I found mixing it with a little undiluted cordial masks it very well.
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GBL Megathread 4: End of an Era?
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just finished my last 100ml, no more ordering, second time gbl WD has had me hospitalised, and just from 100ml, after you've cained the stuff for a few years just 5 days of 24.7 use as one off had me tripping, delerioius and in unimaginable pain.
Shame as i love the high, but my rents always know im on it, they say my eyes are all glazed and big and i act nicer around them lol.
Not worth it for t he wd's it gives me now though.
Shame as i love the high, but my rents always know im on it, they say my eyes are all glazed and big and i act nicer around them lol.
Not worth it for t he wd's it gives me now though.
I understand how moreish guice can be, but I've never understood 24/7 dosing. If you have things to do in your life, like a career, university, school etc how can it be done? Also, after a few doses I feel quite worn out and naturally feel like I need a rest from it.
It works fine. You don't even notice the gel cap open. Remember that the stomach is full of very strong acid, so it doesn't make much difference.
Gezgin: It can't really, without carrying the stuff around and dosing when you need to. You end up just not doing the things you need to. It's a proper bury your head in the sand job.
65daysofstatic
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Even if you don't use it in the morning and for sleep, any regular use can produce dependence/withdrawal. Everyone is different. Most people would get significant dependence and rebounds from the amount you are using. I'd be very careful, it usually catches up with everyone. Plus personally, once I get into a regular G pattern it's hard not to do it round the clock because the rebound makes me feel so awful. I feel tweaked yet tired at the same time.
In this topic I wouldn't recommend anyone do it more than about 3 nights a week
I think I know why I had such a weird GBL experience the other night, it was due to sheer exhaustion. Last night I did some GBL and fell asleep briefly after my first dose. I woke up and carried on though. When I went to bed properly I usually wake up a couple of hours later tossing and turning a bit due to the stimulation present at low doses, however I was so knackered I must have just slept through it.
Shambles
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Gotta disagree with you there, Treac. I dose from the moment I wake up and all through the day but never to sleep. I've never had a problem sleeping after dosing all day. The only times I've experienced the kind of physical w/d symptoms that most report are the handful of times I broke my "Never for sleep" rule and dosed through the night for a few days. May well be a pure coincidence but those who use it to sleep do seem to suffer far more with vicious w/d.
I would still consider myself addicted when I'm on it cos it's essentially 24/7 use - except I don't dose from whenever I go to bed till whenever I get up. I've honestly never had a problem sleeping. Or certainly not enough to be worth the w/d I get if I do dose through the night - I'd rather a sleepless night than go through that shite.
Again, that's just my experience and everyone is different... but I don't seem to be the only one who has noticed the lack of major w/d by sticking to natural sleep. Would be interesting to see how many others there are who have noticed similar.
WarmRushes
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Im the same, I did G everyday, a few doses for over a year and never really had any sleep related problems unless I carried on dosing late in to the evening. I still considered myself addicted though, and it's completely stopped working on me other than some slight stimulation. I had a month off and have got another bottle and have managed to not dose so much, yet it's still not really the same. I don't have any of the shockin mood problems or anything though which is a plus.
Shambles
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^ Guess I'm also fortunate in that it still does the biz everytime for me. The intense euphoria from the first few doses of a new bottle after a break does settle down to a more subtle mood lift and energy boost after a coupla days of (almost) 24/7 dosing but not using it to sleep makes all the difference when it comes to avoiding physical w/d for me. I definitely get rebound mood swings, lethargy and am generally just a bit down when I run out - and that can last a long time - but none of the insomnia, panic attacks, tachycardia and so on that many report. For me I can only put it down to not using it to sleep cos when I have done I get all the shitty effects others do. Why this should be the case I have no idea but natural sleep seems to make a huge difference to me.
PS: When I'm on stims and awake for however many days I do dose fully around the clock and that doesn't seem to be a problem - it's only when I take KO doses (either deliberately or just through sloppy dosing) that I get the physical w/d.
PS: When I'm on stims and awake for however many days I do dose fully around the clock and that doesn't seem to be a problem - it's only when I take KO doses (either deliberately or just through sloppy dosing) that I get the physical w/d.
WarmRushes
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^ I wish I still got the euphoria I used to, I really miss it. I've never had the bad WD symptoms either, so I'm also rather lucky, I've had them from benzo withdrawl and it was very very fuckin unpleasant.
When I'm on stims I can dose round the clock also, weird. Our brains are wired almost the same
When I'm on stims I can dose round the clock also, weird. Our brains are wired almost the same
Shambles
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Brains wired weird ftw 
I only get the really intense euphoria for the first day or two of dosing at most but those first few doses are just divine. Just wish I had the willpower to not dose daily once that first flush of lush wears off - seems such a waste to be dosing all the time just for a comparatively minor mood lift but hey-ho![:\](https://bluelight.org/xf/BL_Images/Orig_Emoji/wrygrin.gif "wry grin :\")
I only get the really intense euphoria for the first day or two of dosing at most but those first few doses are just divine. Just wish I had the willpower to not dose daily once that first flush of lush wears off - seems such a waste to be dosing all the time just for a comparatively minor mood lift but hey-ho
Shambles
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I have bumped into proper w/d a coupla times, Treac - but only when I used it to sleep. As I said, as long as I never use it to sleep I seem to be spared the majority of the w/d other than lethargy, dysphoria and ennui - mentally/emotionally a bit shit but physically pretty much fine. Why? Dunno. I'm not complaining though 
I have bumped into proper w/d a coupla times, Treac - but only when I used it to sleep. As I said, as long as I never use it to sleep I seem to be spared the majority of the w/d other than lethargy, dysphoria and ennui - mentally/emotionally a bit shit but physically pretty much fine. Why? Dunno. I'm not complaining though
Word!! Not using it for sleep is crucial, also dont take it from early morning and i bet the other symptons will disappear too!!
Its because GBL has a extremely short half life and you only need a little bit of time for your body to adjust being without G again, when you take it for sleep your actually actively putting your body into addiction.
Take high dose zolpidem to break out of the rebound mate! personally i dont notice any rebounds like shambles and sleep fine after it wears off.
Trust me, ive been a heavy user since 2008, if its gonna catch up with me its a late one, its just of utter importance to not take it for sleep and not from early morning!
That is complete shit! This is a harm reduction board. Not only are you advising people to take other high dose GABA agonists to sleep, as if taking G pretty much every night isn't enough. Stuff like zopiclone plain DOESN'T do a THING when you've been through previous withdrawals. I'll compare it to heroin withdrawals, as Shambles has stated before. Every time is a little bit worse, until you find yourself unable to sleep and climbing the walls after a few days of use. Just because YOU think this is the way to avoid withdrawals, it doesn't mean everyone else is the same. The solution is simple; don't go over 3-4mls a day, and you shouldn't have any issues. Anyone throwing in their 'well I take 50mls a day' isn't helpful, or productive. It's like booze, stick to small amounts, and it won't destroy your life, and leave you a hollow, fucked up human being.
Ive used daily for about 2 months, but I only ever use it in the evenings, with the occasional day off. I find its not as enjoyable as it once was though, but I get really bored in the evenings. I think I may start only doing it every other day.