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GBL Megathread - 2nd dose

I've tried weed during G withdrawals once. It wasn't too great, but I was on a load of phenibut at the time. I also tried MDMA once, with benzos or phenibut, and it stopped all the depressive effects of the withdrawal. Probably not the safest thing in the world, when it comes to hypertension from G withdrawals, but it made me feel good.
 
I find weed pretty much unbearable during any withdrawals and I <3 weed usually. Just tends to intensify the wihdrawals for me. Some varieties can help, but as it's not always easy to know what variety you have I tend to avoid it in such circumstances.
 
Last dose 2.5ml 6.30am Saturday 7 Feb.Used 150mg codiene at 11.50am.Between the last 2 doses I had 50mg promethezine and it cut the later withdrawals right down.I've used it before and its anti-dopamine action can remove about 12 hours worth of dopamine-rebound and reduce whatever you've built up.
Then drank slowly until using more promethezine and 2mg lorazepam to get through the night.Did have plans for Sunday,but had to cancel as didn't feel at all capable of dealing with people.Instead drank slowly,had a few temazzies and then the promethezine/lorazepam combo.
Had an appointment with my ever useless addiction clinic and I have never had a less productive appointment.Last May/June I had a key worker and for the first time in my life I could open up about why I drink/take drugs and I thought that something might come of it all.Then she got another job and no one got around to getting me another worker.I'm going to have to start pestering them from now on as 7 months just up in the air with my GP not knowing what to do is way too much to deal with.If I had gone in with a serious heroin problem I would have been given far more help than I've had.It doesn't help that the NHS doesn't know anything about GHB and its withdrawals or how to deal with someone who is a binge drinker rather than a 27/7 chronic drinker.
Today I've been taking 90mg codiene every 4 hours and had 10mg temazepam at one point.
I'm stuck in a rut at the moment.Trying not to order GBL for the longest time possible as its too addictive for me.So much better than alcohol,yet hangovers last a day and GBL withdrawal can last a fortnight.:(
 
I still don't buy the whole dopamine rebound thing. GBL/GHB has been shown to release dopamine. I think it's all down to the GABA-B receptors being down regulated, like phenibut withdrawals. Speed doesn't make me feel like I have G withdrawals, so that makes some sense.
 
Treacle said:
What if you have anxiety (which you would during G withdrawals)? I think that's bad advice.
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I think this depends on your personal reaction to weed.

I (like a few other lucky people) rarely if ever experience anxiety on weed, and when i do it's like 'o i'm feeling a bit anxious, that's interesting; better go somewhere quiet for a bit'.

I can only imagine weed would help me get through GBL withdrawls. I know it helps me get to sleep after i've been taking GBL and it wears off and i get the rebound effect (or whatever process it is that makes you feel more awake after the stuff wears off than you were before you took it).
 
Back when I could control my guice(ab)use then I still couldn't take more than 1.5ml twice a day,before midday or my sleep was fucked.1.5ml at 7pm=no sleep till 9am.But this is without other medication.A dopamine antagonist would help,which is why I've got a pocketful of promethezine and some olanzapine about.Benzo's help a lot with the anxiety.But on their own don't seem to help with sleep.Diphenhydramine doesn't touch dopamine so 100mg just gives me palpitations for hours.Although I'm thinking of using some tomorrow night now that my brain has sort of recovered.And if I can't sleep,then 3litres of cider might do something.
Cannot begin to imagine the hell I would end up in if I did 4 or more days 24/7 dosing and then at about +7 hours after last dose smoked a bucket....perhaps with a pot of coffee.Screams may emanate from my flat,no joke.Oh yes,and then someone pounds on the front door and someone else rings the phone and someone else rings the intercom....and I do believe you would find me hiding in the wardrobe for a good 10 hours.:|
Here's to me not buying any guice till at least Friday 13th....oh shit8o I think not on that day.....perhaps Monday 16th?Or later.
 
^Sounds about right. The only benzo that will allow me to sleep during G withdrawals is xanax. Valium doesn't touch the sides, even in massive amounts. Phenibut is the best thing ever for G withdrawals. You will get a full night's sleep, on your first day. There is a UK bulk powder place that will get it to you in two days. Taken with one or two benzos, you are pretty much crawling into bed within a few hours.
 
I can't comment on the whole chemestry thing of the brain because I don't understand it at all!!

All I know is that I am fucked on GBL now.

How safe would it be to take a Xanax (1mg) later so I don't wake up and get rebound insomnia at like 3am?
 
^ We must have been reading and typing at the same time Treacle! Thanks!
 
Safe.
(Warning non-harm reduction might be coming up)
I find a dose at 3am of the right amount gets one back to sleep.Then in the morning don't redose.Not for any reason.
Alternatively do the fucking xanax and don't listen to me.:\
Fucking guice.My palms are sweating and it feels like I'm wearing damp sponges for socks.3 and a half days without.Must.Not.Buy.More....yet.
 
Wahslab said:
How safe would it be to take a Xanax (1mg) later so I don't wake up and get rebound insomnia at like 3am?
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It hasn't ever worked for me. I've always still woken up when the rebound kicks in. It also stops the G working for me.
 
Widthdrawalls (man I am fucked, I can't spell!) must be horrible BrokenBrain. I'm on MSN if you want to chat? Might not help but surly not thinking about it is a good thing? :/
 
I feel for you bb, hope you recover soon. Thanks for putting me off it just when I was thinking of ordering again though ;)
 
Ok doods,well I don't have internet at home,so have to use parents/work/libraries.This is why I haven't been on here since Friday.Should be on at some point tomorrow.Had 5mg olanzapine(fucking anti-psychotics do have a purpose after all!)at 9pm.Have benzo's aplenty if needs be.Things to do tomorrow and they will get done,but have to find a way not to buy the guice.The less its done the better it is,we all know that.
I wouldn't mind someone sorting out a poll regards how long various people have done 24/7 eg length of time on and amount consumed in that time period.My personal (worst) best was 500ml 24/7 over 20 days.Took 7 months off after that ordeal.Now its more like a few days here,a few days there, a week here,a week off there,but never full blast hell.Think its the sleep deprivation thats the worst,as long as you can get some sleep and eat well and use medication sparingly its dealable.
My real fear is that I may never be able to sleep without any sleep aids again....:(
 
^You will. Don't worry about it. A few weeks off, and you'll be sleeping naturally.
 
Mild WD's

OK, so I have at least 2 doses of G a day, don't go overboard and say have one in the morning then one in the evening. on the odd day I will go further and have a bit of a bender but no more than the next person.

The day before yesterday just didnt fancy having any G as was busy so I didn't and had bad headaches all day, to see if it was the G i went yesterday without any and the headaches stayed all through the night to this morning. I have just dosed around 1.3 and the headaches have stopped immedietly.

Have I got one of those minimal addiction things like people have with caffeine.... i.e. a coffee in the morning, one at lunch and one at night?

I am going away for a few days now where dosing will be hard so I have packed the co-codamol hoping I'll be alright! Time to respect it a bit more I think!!!!
 
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