GBL - First Time - Good, but Slightly Overrated

[Jabberwocky]

I think 4 grams of GHB powder would kill a large donkey?

I think without tolerance this might be a dangerous dose for some people all at once. An average dose is around 2 grams.

 

[YHYK6X]

GBL does convert into GHB. Do you know a general principle about euphoriants? The quicker they absorb/hit your brain, the greater the euphoria. Almost across the board with all euphoria-inducing drugs. GHB hits quicker and is therefore a better high than GBL.

Science tells us it's the other way around: GBL hits quicker than GHB...

Also, GBL is not toxic (to neurons), but it definitely is not good for your body.

It doesn't do any significant harm to the body. It irritates some tissues, but this effect is almost nonexistent if you properly dilute it. I'm talking about at least a 1:200 ratio (1ml GBL in 200ml of liquid). It seems you used a much smaller ratio, am I correct?

And, there DEFINITELY is a rebound effect from (ab)using GHB.

I'm not denying that. All I pointed out was, that the previously suggested flood of dopamine doesn't appear to be the cause of this effect.

 

[Jabberwocky]

^ cool. thanks for the info and taking the time to link us to studies.

I still find it hard to believe that GBL hits quicker than GHB. I know for a fact when I switched to GHB I was getting higher quicker and the high was 'tighter' somehow (know what I mean?).

peace
samadhi

 

[YHYK6X]

Yes, real life experiences sometimes conflict with scientific evidence. Unfortunately, since I only have experience with GBL, I can't confirm nor disconfirm this from personal experience

 

[Vivian]

Personally I think that GBL is more euphoric and it hits quicker than GHB. Why would you convert it to GHB when with GBL you get more for you money, you get a nicer feeling, and its legal.

 

[bighooter]

when you say ghb feels cleaner
do you mean you look less fcuked

coz when im on gbl my mates say i looked pilled up all stary eyed pupils really dilated, look like im on another planet apart from im not gurning

 

[bighooter]

I just found out the correct dose for GBL is 1ml per 10kg of bodyweight.

In that case I should be doing 6ml, because I weigh 60kg.

Do you think this is ok, last starter dose was 2ml but I didnt feel no way at all hammered off it, felt extremely in control nothing like being drunk what so ever.

So do you think for my 3rd time I should do 6ml as a starter dose?

 

[Vivian]

I think 6ml would deffinatly be a knockout dose.

 

[bighooter]

So what's the deal with doing 1ml per 10kg of bodyweight then?

Do you think I should take 3ml then?

''The 1mL:10kg dosage is for GBL. for 1,4 b we usually use 15-17mL as a first dose (i am 70kg) I did some maths and 1 dose of GBL (the site recomended a certain amount as opposed to mL:kg) = 16mL of 1,4b (the stuff that is about 125mL of actual 1,4 in 1L of water)
Take care
Maxi
[This message has been edited by Maxi (edited 16 March 2001).]''

What in gods name is that all about then?

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?threadid=17639

 

[Xorkoth]

That sounds like too high a dose recommendation... GBL is really strong. Some people report 1mL being too much their first time. I think to recommend 6mL to anyone is foolish. Looks like maybe you just picked a bad thread to get advice from.

Regarding 1,4b... 15-17mL for a first dose? That could likely kill you... no joke. Please do not follow the advice in that thread. 8( 8( Actually, it looks like that recommendation was for a solution of 125mL of 1,4b per 1000mL of water... which means they diluted their 1,4b to one eighth the strength.

Anyway, you should do to Other Drugs to ask this sort of question... posts in this thread should be about the trip report. Any further questions in this thread will be removed to stay on topic.

 

[Ghettochrist]

I deffo want some of this :D

 

[bighooter]

did 3ml last night then was buzzing my tits off loving it and was struggling to stay awake.

Then foolishly topped up with 2ml 2hours later was asleep for 2hours.

Very good though.

 

[I Care Because You Do]

Nice to see that you took it responsibly !!

Thumbs UP !!

Next time, stict to that dosing schedule , because you won't get more out of GBL

I mean , next step is close to overdose and that is really shit.

yes i overdosed on ghb about two years ago, it was the worst experience of my life. don't remember shit except waking up in the hospital with a catheter in. worst experience ever. (i was also dumb and took much more than i should have)