Television Game of Thrones

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and some more for you all..

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and in case your heart hasn't been torn out like ned jr's yet...

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and that's all folks.

 

[95Land]

^Thank you for posting those and ruining my chances at sleep. .

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I really wondered if the burning of the leeches would clue people in. I think I was just paranoid that the show would blow it somehow. Good job show. It was close to perfect.

 

[Kenickie]

People keep saying Roslyn, Edmure, and the Blackfish are all dead too. No -- Blackfish went to piss, and I doubt Walder Frey would kill his only pretty daughter and her husband in the midst of a bedding ceremony? Plus Brynden needs to see Jaime's stump. Too bad too. I feel like if Blackfish was in there he would have done some damage. Maybe even killed that shit Bolton.

 

[tambourine-man]

Caught up on this tonight.

As i've mentioned before, I'm disappointed with the pacing of the series. Packing all the action into the last five minutes doesn't really make up for the lack of depth and sporadic storytelling. [spoil]When Ned bit the dust[/spoil] towards the end of series one, it was shocking, unexpected... but congruous and part of a really interesting set of sub-plots.

This, however, all felt rather like a cheap soap-opera.

Jumped the shark, IMO.

 

[poledriver]

Just saw it last night, pretty hardcore. Had me squinting a few times.

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The stabbing of her pregnant belly, the throat cuttings and especially the killing of the wolf in its locked stable, damn.

 

[marissaaaaaa]

I actually loved the Bran/Jon scene. I thought they adapted great from the way it was in the book and I like how the Starks are "reuinted" in this episode in a way. Arya, Robb's and Cat's storylines cross again for the first time since S1, and Bran, Rickon's and Jon's the first time since then as well. Having the episode focus solely on them for the most part (I did not like Dany being thrown in at all for this. Save that for Mhysha. Make it all Dany. That war poorly placed), was really great I think.

I don't know.
This season has been a little jumpy but honestly I think it had to do with excitement and anxiety over getting to and filming the red wedding. We all know D&D made the show to film that scene. They've said it in multiple interviews. So you can imagine how freaked they were by getting to it. I think I can forgive them on the slightly off pacing this season due to this being in it...I mean look at us watching it. Imagine having to write and make it??
Yeah.
lol

 

[95Land]

[spoil]When Ned bit the dust[/spoil] towards the end of series one, it was shocking, unexpected... but congruous and part of a really interesting set of sub-plots.

This, however, all felt rather like a cheap soap-opera.

I would encourage you to give it time and let the reasons and players behind the RW to be hashed out. There were no less subplots involved. I can assure you.

I did not like Dany being thrown in at all for this. Save that for Mhysha. Make it all Dany. That war poorly placed.

I didn't really think about this, but now that I am I feel the same way. It would have been very nice, appropriate to have a all Stark centered episode. As a sendoff of sorts.

I've felt pretty strongly that the show needs to bounce to different narratives within each episode in order to show that all this is going on at the same time.
However, I think this episode and next weeks could have been exceptions. Like Blackwater.

 

[Folley]

I think the like 20 dudes repeatedly shooting cross bows was the most epic part, just fucking raining down spikes of death one after another

 

[Escher's Waterfall]

Well, what the hell was the point of getting to know all those characters if they were just gonna do that to them in one fell swoop?

What's the point of a series where you know that any character who has had enough development is safe from death?

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Anyways, I have to say that (book5)[spoil]the revenge the Manderlys take is awesome. Oh, oh, what a nice pie! And then later, Manderly utters the epic line when Little Walder turns up dead: "So young, though mayhaps this was a blessing. Had he lived, he would have grown up to be a Frey."[/spoil]

 

[psood0nym]

Game of Thrones is based off of a Machiavellian reading of the Medieval era rendered as fantasy (this is speculation on my part, but I think a persuasive argument could be made to defend it). Martin dispatches with good characters like history dispatches with good people. It's pretty much more brutal and difficult story from here on in the books. I'm surprised HBO used up so much of it this early on. Either Martin has finished the books early and his preview will inform the episodes or the show is going to start being a lot less interesting or a lot less faithful to the books soon. I assume they just want to make this season as great as they can, which is appreciated.

 

[Folley]

 

[Escher's Waterfall]

Game of Thrones is based off of a Machiavellian reading of the Medieval era rendered as fantasy (this is speculation on my part, but I think a persuasive argument could be made to defend it).

I'd consider it a more realistic telling of the medieval era, borrowing heavily from British history.

Which tends to be more than a little bloody.

 

[L2R]

Caught up on this tonight.

As i've mentioned before, I'm disappointed with the pacing of the series. Packing all the action into the last five minutes doesn't really make up for the lack of depth and sporadic storytelling. [spoil]When Ned bit the dust[/spoil] towards the end of series one, it was shocking, unexpected... but congruous and part of a really interesting set of sub-plots.

This, however, all felt rather like a cheap soap-opera.

Jumped the shark, IMO.

not having read any books, and admitting to have difficulty following the plot, i must say that i have been completely satisfied with this season nontheless. you are absolutely wrong, tambo, ol chum.

best current show on tv by a very long shot.

 

[95Land]

I'd consider it a more realistic telling of the medieval era, borrowing heavily from British history.

Which tends to be more than a little bloody.

Specifically the Red Wedding was inspired by a incident titled The Black Dinner.
http://www.robertsewell.ca/living4.html
About 4/5's way down the page there's two accounts of the incident. The first one being much more theatrical.

I don't know if this is somewhat common knowledge for book fans. I had never looked into it and found it interesting.

 

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Specifically the Red Wedding was inspired by a incident titled The Black Dinner.
http://www.robertsewell.ca/living4.html
About 4/5's way down the page there's two accounts of the incident. The first one being much more theatrical.

I don't know if this is somewhat common knowledge for book fans. I had never looked into it and found it interesting.

Was just about to post about this!
Yeah, after the episode I was shocked. But then I thought plenty of this sort of thing would happen in the past, and in many countries there's still a ton of violence and slaughter today...which made me even more upset.
ai the world we live in.

people are going to look back on this era of entertainment like WTF. so Shakespearean.
we're demented.

 

[psood0nym]

I'd consider it a more realistic telling of the medieval era, borrowing heavily from British history.

Which tends to be more than a little bloody.

I'm not sure what you mean. Machiavelli's is a realistic recount of history, or, more specifically, how power has been gained historically. Power is clearly the central theme of Game of Thrones -- obviously that's alluded to in the title--which is why I suggest Machiavelli's relevance. Hitler kept a copy of "The Prince" under his bed and considered it the most important book he ever read, but he didn't abide by all its principles and that arguably led to his downfall. The point is the "The Prince" works and is therefore very realistic (its banning was about as justifiable as book banning gets). You probably have a better understanding of British history than I do, though, especially since I assume you're British. "The Black Dinner" was referenced above. Did you have other influences in mind?

 

[Escher's Waterfall]

Specifically the Red Wedding was inspired by a incident titled The Black Dinner.
http://www.robertsewell.ca/living4.html
About 4/5's way down the page there's two accounts of the incident. The first one being much more theatrical.

I don't know if this is somewhat common knowledge for book fans. I had never looked into it and found it interesting.

There's a few historical analogs in GRRM's work. The one that's most notable mentioned in passing is Criston Cole, the Kingmaker. Which seems to recall another Kingmaker, this one in British History (Richard Neville).

 

[95Land]

^The comparisons are interesting. I deleted my own and am just gonna read more about historical similarities.

 

[jpgrdnr]

Nice setup for season 4!