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  • BDD Moderators: Keif’ Richards | negrogesic

Gabapentin losing its effect!?

Pregabalin is not available over the counter here in the UK.
Prescription only.

Yeah, I did a little digging out of curiosity..I didn't find any reputable site which referred to it as OTC. May have been at one point in time, I don't know..there are some references that would lead a person to believe that.
 
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Funny you mention Seroquel and Drugs, Inc lol you're funny....I didn't hear of it until I was locked up. I was about the only person that wasn't taking it. And I was having trouble sleeping (?)...anyway, I took some about 2wks ago, when having a lot of difficulty sleeping (I have to get my Amitryptilline-sp? Rx filled)....It was not a good experience. I felt drugged-like my head weighed 200lbs. and sand bags were on my legs...but I still couldn't sleep It lasted the entire next day. Everyone is different that's for sure.

Hope that helps Brown. And you have very intelligent people helping out ^^^ Hope you're well.

someone get like that w/ the Seroquel; a lot of people feel that way when first starting but nowadays it knocks me out after an hour and I wake up w/ no problems. well, I THINK no problems.. after all, who the fuck really wants to wake up early? ha. but it knocks me out and that is all that counts; I used to take benzos and they would be the ONLY THING that could knock me out, but since I started Seroquel nightly its helped A LOT and I need it cuz my brain just goes and goes and goes.. needs to be ZAPPPPPPED to bed!

def. gonna give the Pregablin a push; I may even just send an email saying I was doing some research and heard bigger/better about it.
 
you guys mention cost, but here in MA I am on MA Health and get all scripts free, except my bupe, which cost $3.50 for 56/pills. pretty good, huh!?
 
HONESTLY, Boston, I'm a 5'8, 110 pound woman and I'm not bragging about that fact because to me that's too thin and it's due to a medical condition, not drugs. I'm solely stating it because you're a guy (probably much bigger then I am) and many think that size matters when it comes to drug useage and I'm living proof that it doesn't.

Anyway, I began at 600 mgs per day and felt NOTHING.

That dose didn't want to make me take less oxycodone and it was as if I was being "tricked" and taking some sort of "placebo" (haha) or better yet, a sugar pill yet I can't even say that because even sugar makes me feel better then a Neurontin...and I WISH it worked like it does for many others:(.

I know I told you this before but over a few months span I was jumped up to 4,200 mgs per day. Guess what? Still nothing. 7, 600 mg tablets per day (and I believe my doctor said that that's as high as it can go???) and I not only get no pain relief but I also feel absolutely no different mind or body wise but keep taking them I suppose in hopes that they will eventually help me since much of my pain is caused by a neurological disorder.

The ironic thing is that I heard that it's given in prisons for opiate wds (never been there, hope to never be and therefore haven't witnessed it 1st handedly...just what I heard and never hope to find out as I can't imagine going into wds while in such a place like that as I know many have) and works amazingly for some people for both withdrawals and neurological pain (plus seizures as you stated). But as for seizures Keppra does work better. Do you mind me asking why you take both?

The only reason I asked my last question is because the only medication that has helped my pain even slightly (that's a non opiate) is the muscle relaxer Baclofen. It's even believed to help both alcohol and opiate addictions and wds (and I'm not implying in any way that that's what you would want something for and that's not at all what it's prescribed to me for either). Yet it would be great for many if it is proven to be fully true since it is cheaper then other meds and so much easier to come off of as opposed to other meds. Research is actually even being done by the F.D.A about this now (and I pray no one asks me to share a link to "back up" my statement because I truly don't know how to but would if I could:))

I also want to add that even though it isn't being prescribed to me for wd purposes (just for pain issues), beginning tomorrow (or rather today now) I'm going off of my pain meds so I hope it's true. I'm supposed to take 40 mgs per day yet if I did I wouldn't be able to move so I mostly dose at night since it produces a hardcore (unliked by me) "nod effect". Another thing is that unlike Soma (which is said to be a bit weaker but I've never used it so I can't say) most doctors don't have any problem prescribing it for pain patients since it's also thought to strengthen bones in the vertebra.

Anyway, I'm sorry this is happening to you with the Gabba yet since it once worked could you possibly ask for an increase? The only issue there is that once you get up to the maximum dose...then what:(? And you're already taking a lot. I'm not even going to begin to start naming off other meds that I've "heard" have worked (I would only mention ones I've taken) because when someone has gone through pain management they most likely have tried nearly everything so alls I can say to you is that I hope you find something that helps and works (especially long term) which is most often the major issue with nearly all meds.... a doseage increase is often eventually needed.

Goodluck<3!!
 
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Haha:)...I was just skimming through your other posts quickly and I too was going to suggest Lyrica. I've heard that it works amazingly well. Much better then Neurontin for neuro pain. More of the pain relief produced by an opiate but without the euphoria. My insurance won't cover it though and it is expensive so I guess I'll never know.

What gets to me the most with some insurance companies is that my doctor DID prescribe me Lyrica but it was "declared" by them that Neurontin works just as well and can be a substitute....who the hell are THEY to say?? Especially when the components of the 2 meds are no where near the same???


I even had the same issue with a damn allergy pill of all things concerning my insurance. I get severe allergies to the point of anaphalaxis. My doctor prescribed a newer med for allergies that is suppose to work better for the intense ones I have yet my insurance did the same exact thing. Said that Claritin would work just as well. An allergy med that's been out for years (that I tried numerous times) and it never did sh*t for me. I REALLY don't get it!!

Anyway, if I stop posting on here...someone please look into my real identity since I may have come into contact with something that contains apple ingredients, unknowingly ate it and my throat closed and I died. I will even give anyone on here permission to say that you were once my best friend and that you want to sue:).

Seriously though, this issue does REALLY piss me off!!.
 
what Lyrica equivalent dose of Gabapentin 1600?
Having much knowledge concerning both of these medications, 300 mgs of Lyrica is approximately equivalent to 1600 mgs of Gabapentin. Although if you are taking Gabapentin for a seizure disorder it must be tapered or you may have a seizure. If being used for neurological pain (the reason I'm prescribed it) then it can usually safely be discontinued and just switched to Lyrica.
 
I did do most research myself though because (as I previously said) I wanted to be switched to it since I have heard it works amazingly well. And since you take Keppra you probably wouldn't have any issues with switching.

My doctor had no problem making the switch...it was my insurance company that did. That's when I was then upped to what I believe is the max dose of Neurontin....4,200 mgs and as I've said it does absolutely nothing for my pain. Since it has been upped...I take a little over half at bedtime (2,400) and fall asleep within a few minutes yet wake in pain within 2 hours. The rest I just take sporadically throughout the day so as not to be extremely tired. I wish it had the same effect on me that I know it has on so many others:(
 
Sorry about wrong info about Pregablin over the counter in UK....either I misunderstood my friend or he misunderstood me.

Brown, I have Rx coverage now, but didn't for a long time. You do have incredible coverage!! Mine is not quite as good. But, much better than when I had none. Yes, it is very, very good to have it. When I didn't, I would buy partials for Lyrica....Holy crap...the cost, for a 100mg, $11/capsule. That's back when I was taking 100mg/4x day. My dose has increased since then. A word of warning-though this seems to be a really controversial topic-Lyrica does cause a bad withdrawal, which I learned the hard way. Some say they felt nothing and they stopped after years of using it...I felt like I was losing my mind. It's mimics opiate, benzo, barbiturate withdrawal combined...is how I felt. Many will argue to the death that that isn't true. Well ok. They somehow dodged the bullet from satan's M2. But that's a topic for another thread.

Chrisin, yes, Gaba will do you better price wise, if you're prescribed lower doses of Pregab. And it's crazy that both are owned by same company. Bastards. Bernc, I hate being told what works for me or won't or doesn't by someone who isn't me...wth? Like I mentioned to you, there was a time, until very recently I wouldn't say anything and accept it. I have finally started to stand up for myself...not like a raving lunatic, but in a calm, direct way.

Brown, best of luck.
 
I was prescribed 12 150mg gabapentin a day for phantom pain after my leg was amputated. I found they actually made the pain worse. I'm now getting pregabs (2 300mg a day) I found the only way to get them to work and get a buzz is to burst them when I take them. I also try to miss a day so I can take double the next.!My pain nurse told me opiates would not help but that is the only time I have total relief. I was also give amitripiline to help the gabbys then pregabs work better but I find I only get a better sleep.
 
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