Gabapentin Has Earned My Respect

[pixies+]

I would get brain zaps, as well as all over body zaps. I’d also really twitchy or.. my body would jerk randomly. I’d get a bit anxious, as well. But compared to opioid/benzo withdrawal, it was a walk in the park.

If you get the time, just do a quick google search on lyrics withdrawal. Shit will make you sick Poor people that have to deal with that stuff. Hurts me.

I think you’re using them incredibly responsibly. You clearly know that too lol

Even 100mg of lyrica (I know this is about gabapentin but they’re so similar) and 25mg diazepam, along with a clonidine pill, would have me in a great fuzzy spot.

I chose to give them up though. I told my doctor I didn’t want them anymore. I kinda kick myself now.. I should’ve held onto a bunch. Instead, I used to give them to the friend I mentioned earlier.

No booze in 18 years? Hell yeah. Good on you!! It’s been years for me too.. I can’t remember though lol

I think your use of them is excellent. I understand many people legit need them and it works wonders for them. But what you’re doing is a perfect way to make a little go a long way!

 

[pixies+]

All I know is I thought of gabapentin (neurontin) as something they would hand out just as they used to hand out tramadol at the work comp clinic, which is to say like candy. So naturally, just as with tramadol (was I wrong about tramadol) we all thought how good could this crap be if they are so happy to hand it out like that, many a blister pack of tramadol from back in the day was simply tossed into the back of the van and forgotten, we wanted hydro or oxy, this same mentality ruled my understanding of gabapentin, hence I have so much on hand, as it was prescribed so much I just tossed one bottle after another into the medicine cabinet! I'll bet I have 8-10 bottles of 90 tabs or better in my cabinet simply because I had no respect for it, I do now though!

I used to do the same thing with them! I had tons and tons just kicking around in a drawer. Then I started giving them to a friend of mine. She was going through some shit and her doctor would prescribe them to her because she was on subs. So I gave her mind for a long time.

Keep as many as you can.. they definitely come in handy for many things, in my opinion.

They do cause weight gain though.

 

[Direwolf131]

I used to do the same thing with them! I had tons and tons just kicking around in a drawer. Then I started giving them to a friend of mine. She was going through some shit and her doctor would prescribe them to her because she was on subs. So I gave her mind for a long time.

Keep as many as you can.. they definitely come in handy for many things, in my opinion.

They do cause weight gain though.

A thing that took me completely by surprise was just how well these little caps nuke wd syndrome anxiety, I mean wtf, I just took a couple hundred mg of gabapentin whilst I was pining for tramadol and 40 minutes later it was presto-changeo, no anxiety or craving at all, and its duration went on for almost six full hours! I am going to approach gabapentin much more conservatively, and while tramadol really fucking sucks to wd from, I have found that I can get by just fine with taking one or two caps vs three or more at a time, often just one does the trick!

 

[pixies+]

A thing that took me completely by surprise was just how well these little caps nuke wd syndrome anxiety, I mean wtf, I just took a couple hundred mg of gabapentin whilst I was pining for tramadol and 40 minutes later it was presto-changeo, no anxiety or craving at all, and its duration went on for almost six full hours! I am going to approach gabapentin much more conservatively, and while tramadol really fucking sucks to wd from, I have found that I can get by just fine with taking one or two caps vs three or more at a time, often just one does the trick!

Yesss!
This may be harder said than done, but really try to keep your tolerance down as best you can. You’ll get so much more out of it. And then you won’t end up with another things to go through withdrawal from.
If you decide to take them regularly, you’ll notice the tolerance going up pretty quickly. That would be a good time to take a break and let things settle.
This is all just personal experience. I’m sure others have had very different experiences than me.

Hope all goes well for you

 

[Direwolf131]

Yesss!
This may be harder said than done, but really try to keep your tolerance down as best you can. You’ll get so much more out of it. And then you won’t end up with another things to go through withdrawal from.
If you decide to take them regularly, you’ll notice the tolerance going up pretty quickly. That would be a good time to take a break and let things settle.
This is all just personal experience. I’m sure others have had very different experiences than me.

Hope all goes well for you

What I have been doing is taking 1 x 3 daily for several days, then 2 x 2 daily for a few days, then back to just 1 x 1 daily at bedtime, so far its working really well, in fact the gabapentin is many times more effective for my managing my wd than the 4.5 grams a day of kratom I have been taking at 1.5 x 3 daily, just to get some energy. All that said I do not wish to be taking 300 mg or more x 3 daily of the gabapentin, something this surprisingly effective demands respect, nonetheless I have bottles of gabapentin dating back as far as 2011, in amounts of 90 or 120 per, just like tramadol I thought this shit had to suck, and just like tramadol I have discovered that NO it does not suck, its just doesn't work so well on pain.

 

[golego55]

Even 100mg of lyrica (I know this is about gabapentin but they’re so similar) and 25mg diazepam, along with a clonidine pill, would have me in a great fuzzy spot.

I chose to give them up though. I told my doctor I didn’t want them anymore. I kinda kick myself now.. I should’ve held onto a bunch. Instead, I used to give them to the friend I mentioned earlier.

I suffer from peripheral neuropathy (amongst other things) and one of the drugs my doctors tried me on was neurontin (gabapentin). I had no idea at the time about its "potential".

I eventually landed at lamictal's (lamotrigine) door. Now there's a heroin(e). At normal doses it helps with the neuropathy. At recreational doses well spaced...well, let's just say there's a reason Japan for a time had it labeled as a "narcotic". I also suffer from social anxiety, depression, and libido issues. It feels like my mental, emotional, and physical capabilities are being choked out. But the lamictal knocks all of that out and then some.

I wish now I had done some experimentation with gabapentin, but Lamictal is a miracle drug (medically and recreationaly) for me and depending on my relationship w/gabapentin I might never have branched out to lamictal.

 

[golego55]

and just like tramadol I have discovered that NO it does not suck, its just doesn't work so well on pain.

I suffer from peripheral neuropathy, and before I was prescribed lamictal I was tried out on gabapentin, and it definitely didn't help with the pain.

 

[pixies+]

I suffer from peripheral neuropathy (amongst other things) and one of the drugs my doctors tried me on was neurontin (gabapentin). I had no idea at the time about its "potential".

I eventually landed at lamictal's (lamotrigine) door. Now there's a heroin(e). At normal doses it helps with the neuropathy. At recreational doses well spaced...well, let's just say there's a reason Japan for a time had it labeled as a "narcotic". I also suffer from social anxiety, depression, and libido issues. It feels like my mental, emotional, and physical capabilities are being choked out. But the lamictal knocks all of that out and then some.

I wish now I had done some experimentation with gabapentin, but Lamictal is a miracle drug (medically and recreationaly) for me and depending on my relationship w/gabapentin I might never have branched out to lamictal.

Would there be any chance of you being able to switch.. maybe?

But of course, if you’re content enough where you are, then maybe suggesting a switch to your doctor wouldn’t be beneficial.

I was originally put on pregabablin for nerve issues, but then it was for anxiety/withdrawal.

 

[pixies+]

I suffer from peripheral neuropathy, and before I was prescribed lamictal I was tried out on gabapentin, and it definitely didn't help with the pain.

Disregard my first two paragraphs

 

[Direwolf131]

hate to say it, this COULD be kindling you? i am NOT an opi expert by ANY means.. (my expertise lies moreso in ... dissociatives.) so SOMEONE LMK IF IM WRONG! But i have a gut feeling the kratom is making shit worse??? idk.

I meant to respond to this but my brain is in a fog, so I do so today (Sunday), "kindling" has nothing to do with opiate wd syndrome, Kindling is specific to Benzodiazapine/Alcohol WD syndromes, where it becomes worse and worse and worse with each repeated wd experience, and where cross addiction occurs between the benzo and alcohol and vice versa!

I suspect what I experienced is either food borne illness, or a bug, regardless, once off of the tramadol, which is vastly more potent an opioid than kratom, and using very small doses of kratom for energy three times day, if I were to be in wd syndrome courtesy of the kratom, then upon consumption of the kratom those wd symptoms would be expected to vanish altogether!

Consider potency of kratom, prior to my CT from tramadol, I was using kratom to fill in for it between scripts, usually 5-7 days at end of month. I would consume 4-5 capsules of kratom, thats 2.5 grams, and such would help mitigate wd symptoms, but by no means eliminate them, I made certain to never dose kratom beyond 3 grams at a sitting just to ensure no transference of addiction, though in reality I was forced to dose every two hours around the clock.

I think you would have to consume huge quantity's of kratom, 20-25 grams + a day, to really begin to compete with 6x 50mg tramadol daily, indeed towards the end I was literally quartering up each 50 mg tramadol and dosing them every 3 + hours, and in doing so I observed that just 12.5 mg of tramadol totally crushed 3-5 grams of kratom, no comparison between them whatsoever.

My understanding of Kindling is that such pertains strictly to benzo/alcohol wd syndromes....

 

[Keif' Richards]

I've never known anyone personally to respond to Gabapentin with intense nausea like this. I'm 100% sure that it's possible, though it's not a commonly reported side effect in my experience. People describe over-sedation, confusion and lack of coordination pretty frequently when they take too much though.

 

[Direwolf131]

I've never known anyone personally to respond to Gabapentin with intense nausea like this. I'm 100% sure that it's possible, though it's not a commonly reported side effect in my experience. People describe over-sedation, confusion and lack of coordination pretty frequently when they take too much though.

I am not sure what occurred, but it persisted for two days, but I did find a clinical description listing both intense nausea and the runs as more or less common with gabapentin. My best guess is I ate a bad spot of food, or perhaps a localized bug got me. Regardless, I have no intentions of ever staggering my gabapentin in said fashion again.

It really is working very well taken 1 x 3, 2 x 2, or 1 x 1 daily for me, so I will continue to mix it up during the week, it completely eliminates craving anxiety within 50 minutes or so.

 

[lolis my thesis]

I take 450 mgs of pregabalin/day
Makes me "wax Lyrical" like extacy lite.
And helps with klonopin withdrawal in a big way
Lyrica itself is more forgiving although has a daunting withdrawal if you don't taper.
I bought it at 400/month for a decade from those suckers at Pfizer.
Now its free; but Pfizer fought the generic coming out and then purchased the generic manufacturer and raised price back up to 300.
This is with insurance paying half.
Donald Trump was on Theo Von's podcast. He asks Theo, what he thinks is worse, the opioid epidemic or fentanyl?
WTF Those in the highest office in the free world can be ignorant of the realities on the street.
Blew my damn drug addled mind
Also I thought Gabapentin was useless but bluelight educated me to the wonders of staggering the dose.
Makes it hit a lot more like pregabalin

 

[Juniper Bruhmomentius]

Gabapentin is way underrated yeah, most people just like the hard hitters but to me it buffers the benzos and suboxone so its kinda perfect. Imagine giving those little treasures away, mfers be crazy

 

[lolis my thesis]

Yep if I run low on benzos I can take extra pregabalin and sleep etc.
When I run low on pregabalin its similar to benzo withdrawal but not as gnarly
But acute empty depression seems to be an unique pregabalin withdrawal feature

 

[golego55]

But acute empty depression seems to be an unique pregabalin withdrawal feature

Just curious and obviously ignore if inappropriate, but in 20 or more words can you describe what you mean by acute empty depression (what it means to you)?

 

[thurston]

I haven't noticed any wd if I miss a dose. I take 3 x 400mg/day.

 

[JackARoe]

Nobody knows what they hell they are talking about. It's mostly 15 year olds getting shitty drug advice from 16 year olds.

Yeah I see that. Not sure why it is so bad. Although some good people give some decent advice. But it is amazing at how some misconceptions become a fact for some posters. Age is probably the reason.

But yeah, 75 mcg of quality LSD is about a full trip. Tim Skully like that amount. I remember Nick Sand sort of making fun of that in one of their documentaries. 600 mcg would crush most people. I have done that in my younger days.

Glad BL has some elders. And glad people correct here if they think info is not good. It is up to us to keep the info good.

 

[CharsScars]

I personally hate gabapentin...

I was prescribed 2,400mg per day, and with no effect whatsoever. However, being told that I could just stop it cold turkey? That was absolutely hell on earth.

3 days of a completely broken brain and nervous system. Hot and cold at the same time, spasms and twitches bordering on full on seizures BEYOND belief, sweating uncontrollably giving way to the inability to sweat, shaking, tremors, terrors, nightmares, symptoms bordering on Tourette's, and oh so much more...

Oh, actually, I did have one noticeable effect while on gabapentin...

Noticeable cognitive decline. My memory and vocabulary were impacted in demonstrable and measurable ways. I would try to reach for a word while speaking or writing, and couldn't quite find it. It's like it was behind a wall in my mind. But I could find it "sideways", as long as I could approach it in an adjacent way, such as a synonym, or something related. As long as I took this approach, I was able to eventually find the word that I was looking for, but never directly. And it was the strangest feeling!

Every time they try to give me the med in a hospital stay, I absolutely refuse it...

Boy do I hate it. As does my significant other, who had uncontrollable nightmares on it as well...

 

[Pissed_and_messed]

I think 600ug actual dose would land about 30% of novice users in a hospital.

Shit gets fucking wild after 300ug. It becomes increasingly difficult to NOT freak out during the peak, and when you're peaking for 16+ hours, good luck with that .

250 mcg is limit after which the dissociation becomes DAMN INTENSE in my experience. It just...gets fucking weird, chaotic and surreal.