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Full Moon 'disturbs a good night's sleep'

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A full Moon can disturb a good night's sleep, scientists believe.

Researchers found evidence of a "lunar influence" in a study of 33 volunteers sleeping in tightly controlled laboratory conditions.

When the Moon was round, the volunteers took longer to nod off and had poorer quality sleep, despite being shut in a darkened room, Current Biology reports.

They also had a dip in levels of a hormone called melatonin that is linked to natural-body clock cycles.

When it is dark, the body makes more melatonin. And it produces less when it is light.

Being exposed to bright lights in the evening or too little light during the day can disrupt the body's normal melatonin cycles.

But the work in Current Biology, by Prof Christian Cajochen and colleagues from Basel University in Switzerland, suggests the Moon's effects may be unrelated to its brightness.


Lunar rhythms

The volunteers were unaware of the purpose of the study and could not see the Moon from their beds in the researchers' sleep lab.

They each spent two separate nights at the lab under close observation.

Findings revealed that around the full Moon, brain activity related to deep sleep dropped by nearly a third. Melatonin levels also dipped.

The volunteers also took five minutes longer to fall asleep and slept for 20 minutes less when there was a full Moon.

Prof Cajochen said: "The lunar cycle seems to influence human sleep, even when one does not 'see' the Moon and is not aware of the actual moon phase."

Some people may be exquisitely sensitive to the Moon, say the researchers.

Their study did not originally set out to investigate a lunar effect. The researchers had the idea of doing the lunar analysis years later, while chatting over a few drinks.

They went back to their old data and factored in whether or not there had been a full Moon on the nights the volunteers had slept in their lab.

UK sleep expert Dr Neil Stanley said, nonetheless, the small study appeared to have significant findings.

"There is a such a strong cultural story around the full Moon that it would not be surprising if it has an effect.

"It's one of these folk things that you would suspect has a germ of truth.

"It's up to science now to find out what's the cause of why we might sleep differently when there's a full Moon."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-23405941

Interesting. It also has some influence over women's periods, unless I'm really mistaken. I informed the person that posted the article that you can buy melatonin, so that story shouldn't keep him up, at night. ;)
 
I can believe that easily. With the storm, the full moon and excessively strong PTM plus nose bleeds before and after the storm this weeks sleeping and waking hours have been a minor struggle. But I don't resent nature having an impact on me, I welcome it, makes me feel grounded.
 
PTM? Pretty twattish mentality? Could be a worthy replacement for PMT. ;)

No, I believe it's possible. I think it's quite cool that some big rock changes us. It also controls the tides, thinking about it. Definitely something weird about the moon. Then again, the sun makes us live, changes our colour, makes us happy, gives us cancer, and plenty of other things...
 
I live in the pacific northwest where it's cloudy most of the year. I know where the moon is in its cycle because my sleep will suddenly turn to shit yet I'll have abundant energy during the day. The full moon does this to me every time.
 
^ interesting.

We don't keep diaries any more in the same way farmers kept almanacs, they were in no doubt which phase of the lunar cycle they were in. If you weren't an aristocrat your life was dictated by the calendar. Any one living from the land or sea was affected and needed to know. We have lost touch with all this, but I'm sure we'd idfentify patterns more if we weren't all holed up in offices, so unnatural

PTM? Pretty twattish mentality? Could be a worthy replacement for PMT. ;)

lol oh you :p :)

I like this bit

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There is a such a strong cultural story around the full Moon that it would not be surprising if it has an effect.

"It's one of these folk things that you would suspect has a germ of truth.

"It's up to science now to find out what's the cause of why we might sleep differently when there's a full Moon."
This goes back to what I was saying in another thread. People in touch with the planet and the organisms on it often just know stuff, through the generations. Not scientists, not 'experts' just every day regular people.
 
There's already a four-weekly hormone level cycle going on in the human body (and even if there isn't a bulb in the holder, all the wiring is still there under the board, so to speak). It could well be coincidence that this is ..... well, coinciding with full moons. If you reckon on the moon looking nearly-enough full for 3 days, that means about 1 person in 10 is going to have their hormonal peak at full moon.

It would be interesting to do a similar study to see if a new moon has a similar effect. If the only connection with the moon is the frequency and the phase difference is constant, then there should be about the same number of people who experience "moon-related" stuff at every point in the lunar cycle.
 
^ Are you talking about the female hormone cycle? AFAIK there is no male equivalent. But you are right about women. Many women know the timing of their menstrual cycles according to the moon cycle.
 
The volunteers were unaware of the purpose of the study and could not see the Moon from their beds in the researchers' sleep lab.
That's the first thing I thought of when I read the thread title.
And also....

"There is a such a strong cultural story around the full Moon that it would not be surprising if it has an effect.
It's one of these folk things that you would suspect has a germ of truth..."
I'm sure it's gone from Old Wive's Tale truth that's always been believed because it really does effect some people a lot, to being pish-poshed by the scientific community and now this! Tis proper interesting :)

I always thought "Well if it is true... I mean... we are 57% water..." =D Fuckin idiot 8)
 
Heard that on news-couldent help thinking that the moon is like a flood light at times might be possible reason, must have been advantagous extending day, hunting etc
 
My grandad goes crazy on full-moon days. My mum would always regret those nights, as the family would often be ordered to do spontaneous and pointless things by him, as his means of taking control in a very narcissistic way.

She could always tell it was a full moon, as her father always decides to wear a hat of some description during that day. He still does.

He is the very definition of a lunatic (lunar-tic).
 
My grandad goes crazy on full-moon days. My mum would always regret those nights, as the family would often be ordered to do spontaneous and pointless things by him, as his means of taking control in a very narcissistic way.

Like what? Building walls out of malt loaf in the garden?
 
^ Are you talking about the female hormone cycle? AFAIK there is no male equivalent.
Nobody has a monopoly on hormones! Guys still have some oestrogen in their bodies, and it goes up and down and up and down in the same four week cycle, just the same as ladies still get a 24-hour testosterone cycle. You don't notice it because (1) it's less pronounced, (2) you aren't looking for it and (3) you haven't got a bloody (literally .....) great reminder that it's happening all the time.

Keep a chart of how you are feeling each day, be scrupulous enough to note when you felt like blowing it off, give it a year and you'll notice.
But you are right about women. Many women know the timing of their menstrual cycles according to the moon cycle.
See reason (3) above, and remember that there seems to exist a mechanism by which the oestrogen cycle can synchronise against an external source (consider anecdotes of women living together). It is not too great a leap to think that the phase of the moon could act as an external sync source.
 
I read someAnais Nin book last year where the lady in the book liked to get the moonlight on her skin or something. The moon is a big mysterious lump alright. fascinating cosmos we live in, or is it just a little microcosm?
 
I've always had trouble sleeping when there's a full moon. Glad to finally have some scientific backing :)
 
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