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Frequent Psychedelic Use And How It Has Affected You

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BeffJuckley

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I recently experienced a horrendous trip on 4-aco-dmt and have been wondering if tripping too often was the reason or cause of this.

How has tripping frequently (on any substance) affected you emotionally and psychologically?
 
mild HPPD (but to me it's rather like i'm just more aware of the visual artifacts that have always been there, i guess this is from the period when i used 2C-E at least every other week. i don't mind it at all.); mild derealisation (this is rather new and i attribute it to the last mushroom trip i had, not a bad trip but fucking intense, death, void, rebirth, thinking i'm going to be insane etc., combined with cannabis overuse, which might made it harder to integrate the experience completely. i don't like it and now, i'm on a break from weed and try to put things together. also i'm planning on a "therapeutic" MDMA experience in the next weeks, when time is right)

to your case, i think it's possible you got bitchslapped for being too casual with a strong tryptamine. doesn't mean you cannot trip again, but take yourself the time to integrate what you've seen.
 
Bagseed said:
to your case, i think it's possible you got bitchslapped for being too casual with a strong tryptamine. doesn't mean you cannot trip again, but take yourself the time to integrate what you've seen.
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I've come to the conclusion that's exactly what happened but Jesus Christ that bitch had big hands!

I'm a bit over the whole scenario now (writing a trip report definitely helped!) but that's was seriously awful. Pure agitation and dysphoria was not worth the blissful comedown.
 
After decades of use (more off than on) I was one of those people who said I never had a flashback and that flashbacks are probably a myth. Well, I was tripping weekly for awhile earlier this year and I did some shrooms on a work night. The next day at work I was speaking to someone doing my job and the silver streaks started all around the periphery of my vision. I saw something rotating like a ceiling fan in the corner of my eye causing me to look up for the ceiling fan that wasn't there. I finished the conversation and went to the mens room. The episode lasted a few minutes and frankly, I took that as a signal to slow it down.

To answer your question, frequency of tripping probably had nothing to do with your bad trip, but if you trip too often HPPD will build up and flashbacks can happen.
 
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For me, depression, derealization, and negative effects increase directly with frequency (but not intensity) of psychedelic use. I am now one of those once a month or more guys.

It really changes everything.
 
last year i did doc once or twice a month for 3-4 months.. towards the end i felt extreme depersonalization and ego loss, this lasted for a month or so.
back in may i abused 25i(tripped 12 times) for a month and when I stopped i had flashbacks and saw glittery/sparkly shit for acouple weeks afterwards but no egoloss or depersonalization.
 
Loss of personality. Loss of wits, loss of 'myself'. In all honesty I would trade all my synthetics for a fat sack of naturals.
 
Haven't really noticed any bad side effects. Sometimes I use psychedelics a few days in a row for social relaxation. Although, when I do this, doses are remarkably smaller than real tripping doses.
 
I find the side effects are as prominent as you let them be. If you pay attention to them they will appear way worse than they are.

That being said, doing psychs on a weekly basis made me very spacey. Made it a lot harder to function in "normal" society so to speak.
 
I would say that some effects have certainly been positive. I have increased aesthetic appreciation I think because of psychedelics, especially for nature. I would also say that they have been quite thought provoking, mostly about psychedelics themselves, since I find the effects quite fascinating. Most of the insight I feel on them disappears the following day... part of their effects I think is to make one feel insight even when things aren't necessarily that insightful. I think it can make someone more thoughtful in the long term.

As for negative, they can really shake someone's emotional foundation and make them feel insecure for some time after, especially after a bad trip. Phenethylamines especially can give me a feeling of "blah" the day after or a couple of days after. I've heard some people say they have a feeling of loss or that viewing the world normally afterwards feels boring to them.
 
I haven't tripped in a long time. I think 4-aco-dmt ruined it for me, it was always really dark for me, felt manic on it a few times and finally just had enough bad experiences from it. I'm kind of afraid to trip again. I frequently tripped for ~5 years, sometimes 2-3 times per week for months and months at a time. I greatly enjoyed it at the time but had a few psychotic breaks, struggled with anxiety and now get visuals whenever i feel stressed out. For example, if i'm at work and i feel stuck or trapped, the text on my monitor will start morphing. I've also dealt with depersonalization, mostly from benzo withdrawal but it also happened after i went through 500mg of 2c-p in about a month or so.

I think tripping so much really affected my sense of reality but it was also positive in many respects. I don't think i'd be who i am today without it. I wish i could still enjoy it like i used to.
 
RobotRipping said:
I haven't tripped in a long time. I think 4-aco-dmt ruined it for me, it was always really dark for me, felt manic on it a few times and finally just had enough bad experiences from it. I'm kind of afraid to trip again. I frequently tripped for ~5 years, sometimes 2-3 times per week for months and months at a time. I greatly enjoyed it at the time but had a few psychotic breaks, struggled with anxiety and now get visuals whenever i feel stressed out. For example, if i'm at work and i feel stuck or trapped, the text on my monitor will start morphing. I've also dealt with depersonalization, mostly from benzo withdrawal but it also happened after i went through 500mg of 2c-p in about a month or so.

I think tripping so much really affected my sense of reality but it was also positive in many respects. I don't think i'd be who i am today without it. I wish i could still enjoy it like i used to.
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Did 4-aco give you more bad trips as your tripped more often or with less time in between trips?
 
I've come to the conclusion that's exactly what happened but Jesus Christ that bitch had big hands!
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LOL! Very funny and I can attest to the soul sting them big hands can bring about!

When I was a naughty little boy my mother smacked me on my bot bot once or twice for disrespecting her. Now I'm a naughty big boy and mother universe puts the smack down on my spiritual ass when I abuse/overuse powerful mind altering substances. I think naturals are more forgiving than RCs ultimately (just my experience).

I got smacked in a kind way (more like a love tap) by mushrooms once. Like saying 'get your act together and then come back and try again with a more respectful approach'.

Biggest bitch slaps I got were from 3-MeO-PCP (I was asking for that one, though), and later from 4-AcO-DMT together with 4-MeO-PCP after a day of MXE use.

I have to say though, that those RCs I mentioned above (especially 4aco) have been amazingly good to me. They've given some of the most poignant and lasting insights of my life when I didn't abuse them.
 
BeffJuckley said:
Did 4-aco give you more bad trips as your tripped more often or with less time in between trips?
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the bad trips started happening after a long break from psychedelics. Before that i did quite a bit of 25i-NBOMe and had fantastic times but on my last try accidentally overdosed, which may have been where things turned bad.

4-aco-dmt was one of my favourites before all this though, but even then i would sometimes get the feeling that my mind was out of control, nothing was real, nothing mattered and that things were dark, moving too fast and scary. The last times i've taken it i became really depressed, felt empty, nothingness, felt suicidal, and eventually built up so much anxiety that i had to benzo it away. It really sucks as i loved everything about psychedelics. It might just be the substance itself though.
 
I have a hard time believing bad trips are in the RC's nature because I have yet to read a trip report saying anything bad about 4-aco other than it was too intense.
 
I have been using a very large variety of RC psychs for about a year now. I've been taking them quite frequently, like once a week and sometimes several times a week. I seem to be very tolerant them, all I have noticed is mild HPPD (visual fuzziness all over the place).
 
TangerinO said:
I find the side effects are as prominent as you let them be. If you pay attention to them they will appear way worse than they are.
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^QFT, I say this time and time again. After a crazy month long or more Psych binge I noticed I had HPPD it was terrible/scary especially when I would focus on and obsess over it, but when I started to not focus on it, it went away over time.

This was after abusing lots of MXE, K, MDMA and 2c-B
 
Personally, I broke language and think in multiplicity and allegory as natural now. I also have really off the wall thought associations, but thats been helping with my papers, book, and ideas. Oh, and weird delusionations lol.
 
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