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freebased coke possesion charge?

EvMan717

EvMan717

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if a pig busted you for freebased coke he would arrest you for possesion of crack/cocaine right?
also they do have some differences other than the way they are made right? like freebase is pure white, while crack is an off white. and freebase must be smoked with a torch lighter (i think thats what they're called)
 
no, i am sure they aren't the exact same thing. can an experienced "dude" help me out, someone who has done both or has a vast knowledge of these things?
 
Originally posted by EvMan717:
no, i am sure they aren't the exact same thing. can an experienced "dude" help me out, someone who has done both or has a vast knowledge of these things?
Someone just *did* help you out. They are the same fucking thing. Crack is cocaine free base.
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traditional freebase is made by baifying a cocaine solution using ammonia. whereas most crack is now made by simply adding baking soda(or do i mean baking powder?) to a cocaine solution. not being much of a crack fan myself i haven't tried both although i know that the is a significant difference in potency leaning toward the ammonia process
 
I always thought actual, real freebase was made by purifying w/ ether or some shit. who the fuck knows this day, just call it crack and save everyone headaches
 
"freebase" (ie. using the ammonia method) and "crack" (baking soda) are the same thing, end of story. the end result is still the same, but using the ammonia method may produce less impurities, so it will feel more potent with a smaller dose. that is all
 
Free Base & crack are not the same thing. Free base is the purest form of smoking coke that you can get. It contain's far less impurities then crack. It is way more expensive and get's you more high. This is why base is more expensive then crack & is used by celebrities & the rich who look down on crack as the poor man's freebase. Which it is. I don't care what you say or who you are, you can flame me all you want. Until you have made each & see the difference all you have to go on is what misinformation you may read on the net...
 
This is cocaine freebase: C17H21NO4
This is crack cocaine: C17H21NO4
Do you see any difference? No.
It is the same molecule. PERIOD!
 
CRACK = FREEBASE - end of the FUCKING STORY!
It's these god damn idiot e-head ravers that don't want to consider themselves "dirty" because they "smoke crack" the same as Darnell and Tishwana do at the E-Z REST hotel they call home (LOW WEEKLY RATES!) .. in fact, those two are probably having MORE FUN becauause they probably have some better quality crack then RaverRandy who cooked his "freebase" in a spoon, over the 100% Italian marble sink in the 2nd floor kitchen at the house where they were having the after party for "Candyland 3" ..
FREEBASE = CRACK - got it?
Now, as for what you will be charged with... way back in the 80's when there was the "crack epidemic" you would actually catch a DIFFERNT CHARGE if you caught caught with freebase then powdered coke, however, I am not sure about these laws anymore - I know in Florida it would be a "cocaine" possession.. not sure about the rest of the country so I will leave this open in hopes someone will assist...
BUT IF THERE IS ANYMORE TALK ABOUT CRACK BEING DIFFERNT THEN FREEBASE THIS THREAD WILL BE CLOSED!
 
5-49 grams of cocaine base 5 years Mandatory Minimum
500-4999 grams of cocaine 5 years minimum
50 or more grams of cocaine base is 10 years MM
5K or more of cocaine 10 years MM
Cocaine, use widely by white people
Cocaine base, used widely by black people
And our drug war isn't raciest because?
[ 04 August 2002: Message edited by: twigburst ]
 
Well I thought this thread was really stupid to begin with but as many people obviously experienced seem to be confused I thought I would just through in my .02c rather than blindly assert things.
Freebase X is by definition the pure non-salt form of substance X. So freebase cocaine is going to be straight cocaine instead of cocaine-HCL. You get this by basifying a solution of cocaine HCL and then recrystalizing the new solution. Both ammonia and baking soda are bases so will both produce freebase cocacine. Ammonia will thankfully evaporate away while baking soda will sit around as an impurity.
If you wanted to be pedantic and insit freebase cocaine refers to the pure substsance then *maybe* you would have a point. This however is just as silly as not calling glass 'methamphetamine` b/c meth refers to the pure substance (not the HCL salt) or because it didn't reach that 99.9% pharm grade purity. Desoxyn is still meth even if it has impurites (read fillers).
In terms of criminal possesion they are finally starting to close (the racist) hole between crack cocaine and powdered coke (bizarrely enough your cut counts in the weightyou are charged with...was a real bitch with LSD when they would charge you for the weight of the sugar cube and determine you were carring 1000 hits) but in most places you are still better off shooting your powdered coke than doing crack as the law goes.
 
Originally posted by NoriegA:
Free Base & crack are not the same thing. Free base is the purest form of smoking coke that you can get. It contain's far less impurities then crack. It is way more expensive and get's you more high. This is why base is more expensive then crack & is used by celebrities & the rich who look down on crack as the poor man's freebase. Which it is. I don't care what you say or who you are, you can flame me all you want. Until you have made each & see the difference all you have to go on is what misinformation you may read on the net...
THANK YOU!
most people who have fucking flamed me on this thread have probably never done either of the drugs. If some of you would have taken time to read my post you would have noticed that I know they are basically the same thing, but they aren't the same thing, and I wanted someone who knows what they are talking about to answer my question.
I talked to this guy who just got out of rehab for IV'ing coke and meth, and he told me that freebase must be smoked with a torch lighter (it probly wasnt a torch lighter, but he said freebase cant be smoked with a normal lighter). Its the Richard Pryor lighter he uses on Jo-Jo Dancer
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Originally posted by EvMan717:

THANK YOU!
most people who have fucking flamed me on this thread have probably never done either of the drugs. I've done (made) both. They ARE the same thing.

I don't think quoting NoriegA is really the side you want to be on (by the way Nori- you're an idiot). You know the old saying, I'm sure, two wrong don't make a...
And, you're wrong once again. Poor form. I've smoked (and made, imagine that) freebase using both methods (ammonia and baking soda). Not only that, but it's pretty easy to do a wash on the product using the with Baking Soda method to remove much of the impurities left behind (if you're so inclined). For a mouth breather such as yourself, I would never recommend the more complicated ammonia/ether method simply due to the overwhelming chance that you'd fuck up and set your neighborhood on fire. Actually, I may rethink that policy in your case.
The only thing worse than an ignorant fool is a stubborn ignorant fool.

If some of you would have taken time to read my post you would have noticed that I know they are basically the same thing, but they aren't the same thing, [\QUOTE][\QB]
Then why did you pose your "assertion" as a question in the first place if you *knew* the answer?
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and I wanted someone who knows what they are talking about to answer my question.
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You got that, and more. You also had someone that has no fucking clue what they are talkign about answer your question as well...
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told me that freebase must be smoked with a torch lighter
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Yes, generally you need a pretty intense heat source to get free base to burn properly. I've smoked it using a regular bic- but it's way easier with a blaser micro-torch or some such equivalent. Personally, I'd much rather IV coke than smoke free base (in whatever form) so I don't even bother much these days.
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"Ammonia will thankfully evaporate away while baking soda will sit around as an impurity."
Soda will dissolve in hot water while freebase is comepletely insoluble in water. Baking soda, as an impurity, can be washed out easily.
[ 05 August 2002: Message edited by: Snitch ]
 
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