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freebase vs. IV coke?

Then you're not injecting crack, you're injecting cocaine HCl or cocaine acetate or some other salt of cocaine. Trying to say there's any difference in effect between this and injecting something you bought in the form of a salt of cocaine from your dealer, is ridiculous.
 
Can you explain the difference using pharmacological terms or any other kind of scientific logic?
 
I know it sounds strange but there is a difference. I always wondered why when adding the acid surely takes the crack into a different form - ie. the hydrochloride salt or some such. However, a difference there is, plain and simple.
 
Yea I think the difference you are talking about is that one of the substances you buy is more pure ie buying crack and injecting that is more pure than the cut up powder cocaine you might also buy and inject. Therefore the more pure crack has somewhat of a better IV high than the less pure powder.
 
chronic4 was right. You get more high when you break down crack and shoot it because it is almost pure but street powder isn't pure. I bet if you chopped 50 mgs off the kilo and booted that it would get you higher than taking some crack and breaking that into salt and booting it. Quit saying IV crack. It ain't crack once you break it down into salt. Iving crack would be actually shooting up a rock, not breaking it down but whatever terminology you use is fine I guess.
 
because crack is cheaper than coke, and also the stigma (tho anyone conidering doing crack is highly unlikely to be worried about stigmas) and fear of needles would prevent them from injecting. As for why they'd cook it up themselves, I'm guessing those are just dumbasses here on bluelight, tho not repressentative of the greater population of cocaine users
 
AxL BLaZe said:
this post erked me so much I had to intervene. first off, I dunno if IV cocaine is the step you want to take, because you were implying on the DARK SIDE that you were a user who seems like a cokehead. well IVing coke will only take you to the next level, and trust me, it gets a lot shittier there.

but to answer your question, if it is your first time IVing coke DO NOT, DO NOT IV a gram. you will fucking trip out. ok... chop out a regular line on the table, and cut it in half. that should be enough for your first dose of IV coke.

blahblahblah: is IV crack really that much better than IV coke? hmm, I gotta try this then.
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No i didnt mean 1g at once, that is silly.

Your right, im not sure i really want to IV coke. My nose just gets so F-ed it pisses me off.

Addy
 
just make some crack, i.v is dirty
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That's one of the most shortsighted things I've heard on this site in a while. What the fuck do you mean by "dirty"? How is i.v. "dirty"? Why do you make a jab like this and not state the reasons for your opinion? Asshole.

Coolio, there is a slight difference. Crack is broken down with an acid to be injected, thus turned into a type of salt. Cocaine powder is generally cocaine hydrochloride.

Crack broken down with vinegar is cocaine acetate. Broken down with citric acid, it's cocaine citrate. Broken down with vitamin C, it's cocaine ascorbate. Each salt has slightly different pharmacological properties when shot.

I have only injected cocaine hydrochloride, so I could not tell you the difference. If you search on this site, you will find some references about this and people's opinions on the differing salts. However, it might be hard to find, and the information is neither satisfying nor complete so you might not find all the information you want on the subject. The differences are subtle too.

I believe that you feel the taste of an injected substance in 8 seconds, and the high in 10 seconds. I'm not exactly sure, but if someone could time their experience and let us know, that'd be cool. Also, I think it would depend on the substance and where you injected. Obviously if you shoot in the right arm the time is going to be spread over a much larger period than if you shot in your left arm, or even, theoretically, your neck. I imagine shooting in your neck would actually be quicker than smoking and you probably would have trouble taking the needle out. For that reason plus the obvious reasons, I wouldn't recommend trying this.

I would rather IV coke.

On another note, I didn't think a speedball was that great. I think I'd rather IV the substances separately. I just found the experience extremely intense. It was rather costly though, and nothing that great. You can get as much euphoria and content with just using each substance alone.
 
I dont thin he meant 'dirty' in the sense of sanitation or sterilization (unless he was referring to using 'dirty' needles or not using a sterilized needle for each injection), but the generalization, and gross social context that has become associated with needle use and/or intravenous administration of agents.

I have witnessed a few times, RN's, RNP,s, and LN's using either outright incorrect, unsafe, or unsanitary methods of IV, IM and SQ agent administration.

If I had a 25-27g needle, or slin syringe I may even try IVing coke for first time tonight. All I have though is my nasal mucosal membranes.

Addy
 
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