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Freebase back into HCL

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Medi57

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ok I've searched and I can't find a detailed method for binding the salt back onto freebase cocaine. I realise its not worth it cost wise but that is not the issue, 90%+ pure cocain HCL is.
Can anyone link to or explain a detailed method?
 
I too would like to know a method of doing this. Medi, is this possible, have you heard of it done before, or are you just praying that there is a way?
 
You need to get muriatic acid (which is basically HCL) -- this can be found in home depot/hardware type stores, I believe. Then shake/mix your freebase cocaine with a diluted solution of the muriatic/HCL acid, and this should convert it to the HCL salt.
 
im interested in purifying cocaine as well ... can someone give instuctions ... preferably someone who actually did it before ...

oh yeah ... when u say freebase do u mean crack (ie cocaine hcl + baking soda NaHCO3) or the real freebase (the stuff u make with ammonia and ether) ... cuz i cooked up crack before but never the ammonia/ether stuff

and i dont think converting crack back into a salt is as easy as just pouring hydrochloric acid over it ... but then again i only took chemistry in highschool
 
it's that easy

Yes, it is that easy actually. I had a ball of some nice yellow rocks and converted half to the hcl salt using muriatic acid, then evaporating liquid on a mirror. This resulted in the highest quality concaine I've ever come across. If you insist on snorting cocaine(bleh), this is the only way to do it, imho. Your heart is pounding before you even get the straw out of your nose--just be careful with it, 50mg should have you flying high for 30 minutes. With pure cocaine hcl, that's a very small line or a big bump. The stuff I had burned the hell out of my nose--excess hcl maybe? THe burn was gone very quick, though, like meth style burn: hurts like a mofo then it's gone as quick as it came.
 
It is likely there was excess salt/acid in your coke, so that was probably the burn like you thought.
 
so say if u have 3.5 grams of coke ... u add like 5 grams of backing soda and cook it up into crack ... then u get X grams of base ... so how many ml of acid would u need to add to the crack so that all of it converts into a salt and there's not too much unreacted acid left?
 
maddkatt said:
so say if u have 3.5 grams of coke ... u add like 5 grams of backing soda and cook it up into crack ... then u get X grams of base ... so how many ml of acid would u need to add to the crack so that all of it converts into a salt and there's not too much unreacted acid left?
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Whats the point of that? You're going to have bakingsoda and coke, I don't get it. If you're trying to purify you need to use amonia.
 
With 3.5 grams of coke, you wouldn't use 5 grams of baking soda, alot less.

and Deus....why do you think that?
 
maddkatt said:
so say if u have 3.5 grams of coke ... u add like 5 grams of backing soda and cook it up into crack ... then u get X grams of base ... so how many ml of acid would u need to add to the crack so that all of it converts into a salt and there's not too much unreacted acid left?
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Thats WAY too much baking soda. You want the ratio to be between 4:1 and 3:1 coke to soda, respectively. Then you'll want to wash the product with water to get rid of any excess soda, and add 1ml of acid for each gram of base. You need to dilute the acid with water first though.
 
If you start off with decent coke and use baking soda and cook it correctly the results are pretty similar. Methods behind the madness is essential, somebody that throws a 1/2 gram in a soup spoon and throws in baking soda along with it adds a wee-bit of water and than proceeds to cook the shit out of it until a crusty white crust covers the spoon and scrapes it off and smokes it. When you compare the difference when you cook it slowly and let the cocaine oil build up on paper clip the yellow rock isn't even in the same ballpark as over-cooked crack.

I have a feeling many people that rock there stash up is not doing it correctly and leaving alot of baking soda in the final product.

ISO -

Why do you say ammonia is cleaner? The end product? preparation?

Very pure freebase is easily obtainable with baking soda, and alot safer and less hassle also IMO.
 
i only cooked up crack once ... and this is how i did it ...

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=70056&highlight=crack read the very last post ...

anyways im pretty sure i got pretty pure freebase becuz whatever baking soda didnt react stayed dissolved in the water ...

now what i need to know is how the hell to convert it back into salt preferably from someone who did it before and it actually worked ...
 
They're both as good from what I hear, never done either. When I do finally decide to buy some Cocaine, I guess I'll go and purify it, because that's the only thing keeping me from doing the drug is the fact that it is NEVER pure. Both can be shitty, it all just depends whether or not you actually take the time to let it properly dry under a light/on a heat plate, rinse it, etc. Alright, I'll post what Tathra told me for the 100th time about turning cocaine freebase ("crack;" the most overused slang word in the history of drugs) into cocaine HCL:


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use 10mL distilled water per 1g cocaine. stick in the freezer for a while, to help insoluable cuts crash out and filter; add ammonia dropwise until pH is 8 or 9 i believe (no more than a few, 2-4, drops/g; if you overbasify, the cocaine freebase will become soluable again). remove water by some type of filtration. drop freebase in vodka or everclear (distilled water works too, but ethanol will dry faster and you get crystals) and add ~1mL muriatic acid per gram of cocaine. wait for it to all salt up with the hcl, then dry

BTW: Once you get the pure cocaine hcl dried and whatnot, make sure to cut it about 2% with baking soda or vitamin e, or else it will turn kind of wet and mushy very quick, because cocaine is hygroscopic (collects water from the air).
 
To purify coke & convert freebase back to HCL

For a quick clean, you could do an acetone wash, but for a major purification, the following is a tried and true method:-

-Dissolve your cocaine HCL in some water
(Optional - add de-colourizing solution and filter)

-Add 28% aqua ammonia to the water with disolved cocaine HCL. This will produce the cocaine freebase

-Next, extract the freebase with petroleum ether at a very low boil. Allow the ether to evaporate.

-Dissolve the freebase in acetone. You want it to be clear. If it's cloudy, filter again.

-Next prepare a solution of 1:2 concentrated HCL in methanol. Use the aqueous HCL/methanol to acidify some acetone and then add this solution to the cocaine freebase/acetone solution.

-Stir and allow the cocaine HCL to crystallize.
(Optional - one more acetone & filter wash at the end)
 
I wouldn't suggest boiling any solution containing ether unless you are an experienced chemist working in a controlled environment. Ether is highly flamable itself, and produces explosive peroxides when exposed to air. Besides that, ether is completely unnecessary to obtain pure freebase.
 
Ether just helps in making the drying of the crystals faster because you have less liquid to evaporate, since the layer is removed from the water via a pippette.
 
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