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rizmatter

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Picked up the best md i've ever done before a few nights ago - 0.8g baggie of unadulterated, chunky; smooth brown tinted crystals. Mothafuckas this shit was the bomb.

So.. Had to get more. The next night i got 2 more jees. This time 1 of the 2 baggies looked exactly the same as before yet the crystals were smaller (obvs crushed down somewhat). But the other one was white crystals?
I know this bloke gets the real deal but im concerned about it looking different (no brown tint)

MAIN QUESTION: is it possible therefore to have crystals of a white clearish colour in the same batch of md (ie. one that's predominantly brownish white in colour)

(Any of you who have experience using a white crystally md - hearing your experiences would also be propitious to me.)
 
I've seen brown mixed with white before. Nevertheless, get a EZ-Test kit and don't do your head :)
 
I use white crystal MD, and it's really top quality very pure, the colors doesn't mean anything apart that it probably was sythn another way or wasn't acetone washed from the impurities.
 
use a test kit. color often means impurities, white usually means pure, but theres a big chance of white molly being methylone or some other bath salt
 
Hello Riz

I would say for HR reagent test is highly advised. Essential really.

For sniffing out a inert cut it unfortunately falls short. Personally I would say brown and white crystals mixed is not a good sign.

Sourcing white inert crystal for cutting is awfully easy. Getting offish brown cut is slightly more tricky but also possible.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Aluminium-P...1614354316560294073&pid=100033&prg=1020&rk=3&

MAIN QUESTION: is it possible therefore to have crystals of a white clearish colour in the same batch of md (ie. one that's predominantly brownish white in colour)

Anything is theoretically possible but in reality this would be less likely. Assume a profiteering cut.

The brown colour in the MDMA indicates an impurity. In most cases the browney tinge is caused by the Ketone MDP2P which is usually a thick yellowey liquid. Another possibility is when one of the more popular synthetic routes involving the Reductive Amination Route MD-P2P>MDMA. It mixes and makes a dark brown sludge.

Below are images of both MD-P2P (AKA PMK) and Nitromethane (sorry i cant direct link to these pics as there embedded with synthesis recipes) (their easy to find with google + loads more info)

http://www.4shared.com/photo/ntvU4H-d/MD-P2P__Nitro.html

Below - Once this chemical reaction completes the Contents gets mixed with Nitromethane forming a Deep Brown Sludge loads of more info about this on google ;-)

http://www.4shared.com/photo/022SOj-_/MDMA_Brown_Sludge.html

Below - Xylene or equiv is then added forming a Seperation Layer

http://www.4shared.com/photo/yiAiscvk/MDMA_Brown_Sludge_Seperation.html

In many cases it is the process of removing and cleaning this seperation layer that influences the brown colour of the MDMA powder.

The final product can range from Dark Brown/Light Brown/White depending on the amount of impurity left over from this brown sludge.

The seperated product is then formed into a salt likely HCL using Hydrochlic Acid but other salt types are sometimes formed such as acetates and phosphates. To make a different salt type a different acid type is used. Debatable but some say the different salts effect the high of the MDMA. PLease come to "Pills of the 90s" if you want to debate this.

Picking up on your comment

0.8g baggie of unadulterated, chunky; smooth brown tinted crystals. Mothafuckas this shit was the bomb.

Like yourself many users like brown MDMA. Its easier to spot adulterants, many say that the impurities make for a heavier and more full on buzz.

White if not cut is clean MDMA powder. To get white involves more extensive filtrations and several cleaning processes.

Sometimes if you want white MDMA as Dmytry points out you can clean using Acetone (nail varnish remover)(paint thinner) be sure to buy non hydrous acetone ie it doesnt contain water. Otherwise your product will dissolve.

Depending on the impurity the acetone wash will not always clean the crystal to white. If this is the case you have to dissolve the salt back to liquid, clean and recrystalize if you want white perfection.

(Any of you who have experience using a white crystally md - hearing your experiences would also be propitious to me.)

Tried it. obviousley no impurities. Less heavy than brown MDMA, more mellow, clearer roll, cleaner comedown. Not to everyones liking. Many prefer dirty brown.

Obviousley light brown sits somewhere imbetween white and dark brown in terms of filtration and cleaning.


Sorry for the lengthy post. Hope this helps you out in some way.

Futura
 
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(Any of you who have experience using a white crystally md - hearing your experiences would also be propitious to me.)

on saturday i had the best mdma of my life from the netherlands, it was slightly off white.

best. md. ever.

have a bit of caffeine with it though the euphoria is so powerful it just mongs you out. if you've got clean stuff that is.
 
i had some amazing mda on saturday. it was dark brown and i expected nothing. i ran it though the test kit mdxx all the way with mecke and marquis, then the simons didnt trip blue. i was shocked as i have never seen mda around here. i took 180mg through the night and as rolling balls for 9 hours. needless to say color doesnt mean shit except that it has impurities
 
so if I had the chance to get dark brown (looks alot like brown sugar) MDMA that would mean it has quite a few impurities, does it mean it will be more toxic to your body, also i've never had pure MDMA before just pills which sometimes had partial amps or caffeine in them and probably other things most of my MDMA taking happened before I knew about test kits and adulterants or even what "ecstasy" truly was so what i'm getting at is I prefer a more get up and dance and oh holy shit i've never felt this good very intense type roll, so the dark brown somewhat impure MDMA would be the way to go? mix a little amp or take a caffeine pill along with it maybe as Chesh is saying?? any input would be great

Thanks
 
best I have had was classed as MDMA dutch quartz, 80%. Tested positive for MDMA instantly with a tiny scrape. White crystals
 
so if I had the chance to get dark brown (looks alot like brown sugar) MDMA that would mean it has quite a few impurities,

Yes colour 9/10 is impurity of some kind. Sometimes its dyed also.

The pictures shown above are an example of how one process can introduce these impurities.

The natural colour of MDMA HCL salt is usually white not brown.

does it mean it will be more toxic to your body

Potentially yes but depends on what the exact impurity is. A lot of acids and solvents are used in the MDMA manufacture process so theoretically you could be adding any of these in some way.

Be aware however the stomach is quite a strong body component so a lot of these impurities might not harm you The main harm would come from the compounds that cross the stomach>blood barrier MDMA being one of them..

also i've never had pure MDMA before just pills which sometimes had partial amps or caffeine in them and probably other things most of my MDMA taking happened before I knew about test kits and adulterants or even what "ecstasy" truly was so what i'm getting at is I prefer a more get up and dance and oh holy shit i've never felt this good very intense type roll, so the dark brown somewhat impure MDMA would be the way to go? mix a little amp or take a caffeine pill along with it maybe as Chesh is saying?? any input would be great

A lot of the ecstasy experience is dose related. As users we tend to dab MDMA so it would be like nibbling on a tablet. Eating it say over 4 quaters. If you measure out 150mG MDMA powder and bombed that in a rizzla you would get closer to a pill experience.

Some say the impurities add 'something extra' to the roll. They prefer the brown stuff. Be aware not all impurities are the same.

If HR is your goal then subject to finding a good source where you can buy white MDMA safely without cut I would go for the pure stuff and as you suggest add my own adulterant.

Looking online I see MDA and MDEA powder readily available these days. 100mG MDMA, 20mG MDA and 30mG MDEA 20mG Race Meth would give you a 'balls to the wall' experience. Likely stronger than any impure equiviliant dose MDMA could give you.

I would avoid RCs however as they can produce nasty drug>drug synergies that can have horrendous results.

MDA, MDMA, MDEA, SPEED is a long time tried and tested formula. Its not safe but has been around longer. As a result less experimental. Subject to you not being allergic to any of these compounds of course.
 
just want to chime in as well that the white mandy has given me much less of a comedown than the brown stuff i usually get.

don't even feel like i took mdma on saturday.
 
on the flip side the brown mandy i got has given me a much longer hangover then the white mdxx i usually get. took it saturday like chesh and im finally feeling just about baseline. fyi it had also been about a month since my last roll so it wasnt from too much mdma abuse either.
 
3 month break + brown mandy = week long comedown
1 month break + white dutch mandy = no noticeable comedown
 
ive always got the clear crystal that im sure is primo and tests black and a little puff of smoke within a second.
 
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