For Old Drugs, New Tricks

Coolio said:
Seriously, why dump this waste into the water instead of giving it out for free to patients and users. Barbaric society we live in, eh?
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I completely agree, well said brotha. So many people cannot afford medicine whether generic or name brand peroid, and thousands and thousands of dollers worth of medicine are destroyed everyday...
I know it would be really hard for the government (beyond local) to get something in place like that for the sake of FDA standards and government standards, but still, it could help so many people if it was done:\
I know it could be put in place, but as we found out yesterday from the president medicare is bottoming out 2 years before it was estimated to be last year, and health care is in an all round shitty state, a program like this could really help people when were in times like these:\...
 
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drunken_etard said:
I just did a project about pharmaceuticals being dumped in out water supply. Im currently in college for water and waste water treatment. I found out that in North America that most of our water treatment facilities are not capable of getting rid of drugs in our water. But in many places in Europe use ozonation using high doses of Ozone to destroy the drugs in the water. Ozonation can breakdown horomone mimics..and drugs. In a Montreal treatment center their adapting that idea and adding ozonation treatment. Because of the effluent flow of pharmaceuticals being dumped into the st.lawrence from Canada and USA is just gross.
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Wouldn't that actually be dangerous by creating because it could create potentially toxic substances if the raw material isn't fully broken down?
 
I think, in New Scientist, they had an article whereby levels of illicit drugs were monitiored by air (in Spain perhaps). Funnily enough, the highest concentrations of cocaine airbourne were during the weekends :\
 
drunken_etard said:
I just did a project about pharmaceuticals being dumped in out water supply. Im currently in college for water and waste water treatment. I found out that in North America that most of our water treatment facilities are not capable of getting rid of drugs in our water. But in many places in Europe use ozonation using high doses of Ozone to destroy the drugs in the water. Ozonation can breakdown horomone mimics..and drugs. In a Montreal treatment center their adapting that idea and adding ozonation treatment. Because of the effluent flow of pharmaceuticals being dumped into the st.lawrence from Canada and USA is just gross.
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I would really like to see your data, because either waste or pills, it's all organic chemistry. I think it's rediculous that a water cleaning plant couldn't remove all chemicals. Shit first round is H20, hydrolitic bread down of many. What about the the viruses and bacteria that are mixed together in the beginning which would destroy the compounds. Its all just electrons being moved or ripped away.

Maybe I don't get what your saying
 
If I walked into a pharmacy and saw a fish bowl full of pills my first instinct would be to ask the pharmacist... are these free samples?? lol
 
I expect that one of the more compelling reasons these drugs cannot be re-dispensed is because there is no way to ensure they haven't been adulterated or tampered with. I remember back when I was a little one in the 80s the whole fiasco with people putting cyanide in Tylenol capsules.

I'm glad programs like this exist, not because I want anyone to be hard up for their meds, but because I've been stuck needing to dispose of leftover drugs before and haven't known what to do. Granted, the good ones always find a use in this house ;) but not everyone wants to use narcotics and your average Grandma Betty isn't going to give her teen/twentysomething grandbaby her deceased husband's bottle of oxycontin.
 
Mariposa said:
because I've been stuck needing to dispose of leftover drugs before and haven't known what to do. .
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Really?? Lol! Throw them away in your garbage.. flush them down the toilet..

It's ridiculous to get worked up about meds getting flushed and reaching the water supply. What about human waste being flushed? Does that reach the water supply? If so then fuck drugs in the water supply- that's the issue... and if not then who cares?

I dont mean to call you out but how simple is it to get rid of leftover drugs. You got 'stuck' trying to 'dispose' of them?!? god damn....
 
well

the thing about prescription drugs is that many of them go through the water purification processes . Many of them do not break down either. But still yet, the average person consuming tap water does only receive small doses over time of these prescription drug flushes. With the combination of prescription drug waste and human waste combines. That is where the problem is, total combined waste that people consume over time. Peace out.
 
Coolio said:
Seriously, why dump this waste into the water instead of giving it out for free to patients and users. Barbaric society we live in, eh?
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I agree entirely! With so many in need, dumping meds into our water supply sickens me - a waste of resources that could help those unable to pay for them and a waste of resources needed to clean the water supply of them. Not to mention some people are alergic to or have bad reactions to certain medication (I'm sure the levels are WAY below that which would cause problems now, but keep it up and there could be a problem!)

Read about a clinic in Ottawa Canada that recycles meds to people with no drug plans.

In the article I read the doctor 'acknowledges the practice is controversial but says it is one way to ensure that homeless people get the medication they desperately need'

Also 'He said his patients include people who have lived on the streets for years, people who don't have a drug plan or who don't have a health card. The medication that is handed out is not yet expired.

"We make sure that they are the right medications and the right dose, that they haven't been opened and are completely new and sealed." '

Further on in the article 'In 37 U.S. states, unused prescription drugs are legally recycled. In Iowa, for example, there is a redistribution centre where unused prescription drugs are sorted and screened and then given to people in need.'

I don't know if it is O.K. for me to post a link to this article here (I'm a noob) but if it is, please post the request and I shall do so (can't recieve pm's yet as I'm a Greenlighter).


thanks
 
IHateOpiophobes said:
I would really like to see your data, because either waste or pills, it's all organic chemistry. I think it's rediculous that a water cleaning plant couldn't remove all chemicals.[1] Shit first round is H20, hydrolitic bread down of many. What about the the viruses and bacteria that are mixed together in the beginning which would destroy the compounds.[2] Its all just electrons being moved or ripped away.

Maybe I don't get what your saying
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[1]It's actually not ridiculous but proven. Several pharmaceuticals stay intact throughout the water cleaning process, in particular if there are no chemically radical cleaning processes involved (like the ozonization mentioned be Drunken_etard; btw, his description reads quite credible IMHO).

[2] Oh my gosh...viruses are not added in the biological cleaning step of waste water recycling. Even though, they won't do anything; viruses don't even live...

Please stop spreading half-baked nonsense unless you can back it up with solid data.

- Murphy
 
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