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For heroin wds, which would you rather have? Norco 5/325s or tramadol 50?

^ What he said; additionally,if you have a decent sized habit going, doing enough tramadol to help with your WD's more than minimally is possibly dangerous more so than traditional opiates (seizures,etc.) Tramadol is nasty stuff, recreationally speaking, for the most part, although before it was scheduled there was that, medically it has it's uses (one of which is off-label as an anti-depressant which I've seen done with some success more than once but now is difficult to do, thx DEA)
 
Hydrocodone all the way, though neither work well if you've got a real bad habit. Anyway, this isn't OD material, I'll move it to DC, as it seems more appropriate there.
 
I've never taken hydrocodone and even though i have done heroin several times, i never developed a habit.
I was however dependant to tilidine in a dosage range compareable to 20-40mg of oxycodone and tramadol didnt do it anymore for me...I sometimes took high doses along with a benzo to keep the to me unpleasant serotonergic effects at bay and I didnt want to get a seizure.....but still....very very minimal opioid effects and strong serotonergic effects.
So i really dont recommend tramadol if you are addicted to heroin.
It wont do you any good.
 
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