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Fluoxetine (Prozac) - Experienced - The Worst Kind of Withdrawal

vortex30 said:
Bullshit, really, as they both are if used daily, however one of them does not necessarily need to be used daily to be affective. Needless to say, I eventually won the debate, I'm on Clonazepam, and doing pretty well.
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Unfortunately, most people simply allow themselves to be bullied into whatever treatment their doctor prescribes.

The doctor-patient relationship has changed a lot in the last few thousand years. Used to be that the patient had greater say in what their treatment would be. Now that it's writ in stone, you get option A or option B, neither of which are as effective as option C which is deemed off-limits because we simpletons can't be expected to control our animal urges.

Honestly, I think a life-affirming trip on LSD goes a lot farther towards my general happiness than an anti-depressant which just levels me out. Psychedelics feel like a much more authentic way of reaching a stable/sensible/happy place. If only everyone could experience this w/o the fear of a "bad trip". But, this is just one man's opinion.

To the OP: Based on what you've said, I think you are much better off with yoga/meditation/supplements. I am sorry that modern medicine has unintentionally inflicted so much pain, but don't let it get you down because...well...they're trying! Doctors have good intentions, but they are subject to the same mis-information and twisted logic as the rest of the general law-fearing populus.
 
nonnihilnitoris said:
Honestly, I think a life-affirming trip on LSD goes a lot farther towards my general happiness than an anti-depressant which just levels me out. Psychedelics feel like a much more authentic way of reaching a stable/sensible/happy place. If only everyone could experience this w/o the fear of a "bad trip". But, this is just one man's opinion.
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LSD is what caused a vast amount of my problems, though I sort of agree. IF you happen to have an amazing life affirming trip, it could very well be more effective than anything else, there is also the chance it will do nothing for you, or even worse, cause you further anxiety and problems such as HPPD.
 
"Unfortunately, most people simply allow themselves to be bullied into whatever treatment their doctor prescribes."


^^This is very true, especially when you're SIXTEEN!

In my opinion, the average 16-year old is not informed enough to turn down antidepressants when doctors--the very pinnacle of respect and career admiration in our society--tell them they will help with the problems they're experiencing. That's how old I was when I was first prescribed psychiatric meds (by a physician), and I certainly didn't think there was any reason NOT to do as the doctor said. He said nothing about side effects or discontinuation syndrome, and I still wouldn't know that such things existed if not for researching it myself.

I'm very close to being off Prozac completely, and am seeking out a change in my mental state, likely through the use of low-dose mescaline. I know drugs aren't going to do anything to help me on their own and I'll have to work for it, but even if it's a bad trip I'll have learned something. Like the saying goes, "White man medicine makes you feel good now, bad later...Native medicine makes you feel bad now, good later." That's how I see psychedelics like psilocybin and mescaline: not as feel-good drugs, but as medicine. Hopefully it will be a good experience.
 
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Mescaline is the best bet as far as psychedelics go for 'healing' properties, it seems. In my research on HPPD I've learned that it simply doesn't seem to occur in native tribes that ingest Peyote in a spiritual setting. Perhaps that's why LSD really bit my ass. It was pretty much the first time I took a psychedelic, other than Ketamine, in an abrupt, unplanned, and unfamiliar environment.
 
Good to know! I've been researching it ferociously, and the worst thing I've come across is vomiting followed by an unpleasant fatigued feeling/mild negative thoughts, but nothing like the horror stories of ayahuasca, acid, etc.

I tried San Pedro once before, but at a very small dose. I remember feeling "weird" until my friend and I went out for a ride in the car, then everything really took off! I think being outdoors can help enhance a psychedelic trip in a lot of cases.

How much acid did you take, if you don't mind my asking? Were you in a bad state of mind at the time? I'm just curious as to what leads to a "bad trip" for different people...
 
Thank you, Lady Codone, for a solid report. Ignore the little boys who see fit to throw in their unwarranted and unwanted two cents. I hope to see more reports from you.
 
think before you make your self look like a jerk guys!!

You think you have it hard? Try getting addicted to opiates and having every family member or friend pretty much disown or not trust you, regardless of the fact you actually never steal or become violent. I dont think I'm better than you in any way, and IN no way do i think youre better than me. But preaching on a harm reduction site for attention? Good job honey (yea, Im a total chauvinistic male pig. Deal with it)

But you taught me a lesson here. Stick to 5-htp. AD's are truly the devil.
 
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^ Everybody has problems yours are no worse than anyone elses, though you may be in a state of total self absorption. Some people have a tolerance level for what they can take. Good for you that you can take more, but dont belittle anyone in my forum because they need help. You should know better, because you have an opiate problem. It really does say something about your level of maturity. IN the future, please either not post here ever again, or actually contribute. And NEVER call a female a bitch in my presence, it makes you look like shit. I dont care if she does do something for attention, its an even greater cause for help. ( in no way does that mean thats what I think is going on). But you dont talk down to someone like that with an outstretched hand looking for help.
 
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