Florida man faces life sentence in substance OD death

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I know this isnt really a news article since it came from the DEA, but check out the purported mixture this guy was selling....fent, diphen, caffeine, kratom and a little morphine for good measure. Says he was getting the fent from china.


JULy 28 -- ARCHORAGE – Ryan Travis Brown, a resident of Palm Harbor, Florida, pled guilty in federal court on July 27, 2011, to conspiring to distribute 400 grams or more of a substance containing fentanyl.

According to information presented to the court, Brown conspired with Anchorage co-defendants Brackston Moores, Amanda Moss, and Ronnie Adams to distribute the substance, which is similar to synthetic heroin, between December 2008, and April 22, 2009. Plea documents indicate that the defendant’s role in the conspiracy was to manufacture the substance containing fentanyl using a formula he developed. The substance was created by mixing the fentanyl, which Brown purchased from China, together with other substances including a plant called kratom, diphenydramine, caffeine, and a small amount of morphine. Brown would then send packages of the substance to Anchorage for distribution by Moores, Adams, and Moss, whose cases are still pending in United States District Court in Anchorage.

The plea documents further allege that, during the period of the conspiracy, over 400 grams of fentanyl were shipped, or attempted to be shipped, by Brown from Florida to Alaska. On February 19, 2009, during the period of the conspiracy, M.C., a friend and drug customer of both Moores and Adams, died from an overdose of fentanyl. Analysis of M.C.’s blood revealed traces of kratom, diphenhydramine, caffeine, and morphine, as well as fentanyl. In M.C.’s bedroom, there was also a quantity of the fentanyl mixture, in the same chemical ratios used by Brown to create the substance.

Judge Beistline set sentencing for October 19, 2011. The law provides for a total sentence of up to life in prison, with a mandatory minimum of ten years, and a fine of $4 million dollars for this offense. Under federal sentencing statutes, the actual sentence imposed is based upon the seriousness of the offense and the criminal history, if any, of the defendant.

The Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA), the Anchorage Police Department’s Vice Unit, and the Pinellas County Sheriff’s Office, conducted the investigation that led to the prosecution of this case. They were assisted by the Federal Bureau of Investigation laboratory.

http://www.justice.gov/dea/pubs/states/newsrel/2011/seattle072811.html
 
^ from title, "Intravenous caffeine in stimulant drug abusers"

i don't imagine it'd be the same in other people.
 
Makes me wonder how easy it is to get fent, and its analogs, from China. Fuck.

Even if drugs were legal, I'd be for dude doing time.
 
I wonder what the substance looked like, and what it was actually sold as. I.e, did people know what they were buying?
 
I dont mind that he is goin to jail either, cause if that dude hadn't OD'd and that mix was further distributed, there could have been far more OD deaths.
 
I've just never heard of something so completely random. I don't understand the point. I'm kind of baffled in all honesty, esp. since it was obviously a dangerous creation.
 
I wonder what the substance looked like, and what it was actually sold as. I.e, did people know what they were buying?
a dealer has those ingredients lying around, needs to make ends meet, doesn't have the actual H... sells it anyway, because it gives the painkiller buzz. why not make such a mixture, without legalization to protect consumers?

^ignorance? perceived uselessness of kratom?
 
My question here is more like damn, didnt dude know that to get any kind of effect from kratom you gotta take somethin like 3 tablespoons of the powder or some shit like that? Im sure that the amounts that you would take in one dose of this god awful mix wouldnt be nowhere near enough to have effects. I tried it once a long time ago and I remember measuring it out and the pile of powder I had to swallow was between 1/8 and 1/4 cup. So any amount that was mixed in was most likely completely useless.

Theres a whole lot of questions I got about this story, and at first I was like damn, why the fuck did he choose all those ingredients to mix? WTF kind of combination is that?

But then I started to think about it, one ingredient at a time and realized that it almost makes sense, if you look at it from the shoes of somebody who dont know much about drugs. If you try and see it from the eyes of one of those people who sniffs percocet and thinks that crushin up xanax and rollin it in a blunt will get you way higher, there does seem to be some kind of order to it. Heres my best guess of how it all fits together:

morphine--makes sense on its own, i aint gotta explain that. same for Fentanyl, no explanation necessary. It woulda been fine on its own, but think about how strong that shit is--you need tiny-ass amounts of it, and if it was bagged out in single doses the amount would be mad small.

Thats where the kratom comes in, Im guessin. he didnt want to sell the fent as it was becuz people would think they were gettin ripped off or some shit like that. (I would say that maybe it was also cuz he worried that people would see such a small-ass bag, assume that such a little amount couldnt possibly be enough to get them high, and triple the dose and then OD, but Im thinkin dude was not the type to really think shit out that thoroughly, or worry about that type of shit.)

So, he needs to cut it so that he can fatten up the bags, and figures that kratom would be a good idea--instead of just cuttin with somethin inactive, lets make the high even BETTER by cutting it with something ELSE that gets you high! 8( Prolly didnt pay much attention to the dosage info for kratom or none of that, and just looked at it as simple as he could--kratom gets you high. fentanyl gets you high. regular cuts dont get you high. even if the amount of kratom you need to get high is more than I would use to cut a dose of fent, its STILL a drug that gets you high, right? So its STILL gonna do SOMETHING....so that means its STILL better than a regular inactive cut.

Now on to the diphenhydramine....my first thought was "prolly put the benadryl in to add to the rush when people shot it" since especially in chi-town thats the big thing and a huge percent of the dope is cut with benadryl/dormin to add to the rush. But, then i was like na, becuz #1 i really doubt you could shoot this horrible mix of shit with the kratom in it, and #2 dude prolly didnt even know nothing about how diphen. potentiates anyways.

Prolly he was just like "well, benadryl makes me tired, and we all know that when you add something that makes you tired and sleepy to another thing that makes you tired and sleepy, that equals BETTER!" So he thought hey, why not, I aint gotta stop at ONE cut in my ultra-awesome super-mix, Ima make the BEST COMBINATION EVAR! custom-blended for the ultimate high! Lets throw some diphenhydramine up in there to make the fentanyl and kratom high even MORE noddy!

and then, the last ingredient in this perfectly measured precision blend ULTRA-HIGH-FORMULA 420, he threw in some caffeine becuz that TOTALLY works in the alcoholic energy drinks. The touch of caffeine makes it so you can stay AWAKE to enjoy your high, and stay up all night to PARTAYYYYYY!!!


the first time i looked at this story i figured it was just a case of "throw a bunch of shit together cuz its wat i got layin around" but I realized that if you look a lil deeper you will see that this kid prolly thought he wasultimate like, designing the perfect drug combination. Engineering the ultimate high, creating this kind of "improved" version of fentanyl. "if fentanyl is good, then adding some other vaguely "downerish" shit to it is even BETTER!" you know? Ima bet that was his mindset when he put all this shit together.

If it was just a random thing, just throwin everything he could find in there, there prolly woulda been more random household ingredient type shit in there, like flour as a cut or some shit like that instead, and I dont think it would be so easy to explain. sure you need a dumbed down brain to understand the shit he chose to put in here, but these ingredients seems to me like theres a plan behind them, like he had the intent to put those particular things together for a purpose. it definately makes some kind of sense once you get on the level of thinking dude was probably on.


Nevermind all that tho, I can say that this muhfucka actually put people in danger unlike most drug dealers so I can say that this is one of the few times that i support lockin somebody up for the drugs they sold. Its a pretty sad story actually.

And its also sad that fool mutha fuckas like this was so easily able to order fentanyl from china. Like damn, way to waste that shit on somebody who dont even know WTF they doin. I bet the majority of people readin this article coulda put that shit to much better use, and actually known how to dose it and use it the right way too instead of carelessly kill somebody with it.
 
Fent in dope is one of my worst nightmares. I don't think most dealers who use fent take the trouble to make sure the fent is evenly distributed throughout the powder. The upshot is that you can possibly have 19 bags that are duds and one bag with a dinosaur-sized dose of fent.

There are time-consuming ways around this. A dealer can prepare each dose individually. Or he can put the entire mixture into solution and then evaporate the solvent. But best by far is not to use fent at all.

Have a little concern for the integrity of your soul. Your evil deeds will come back to devour you like those old people at the end of Mulholland Dr.

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I've just never heard of something so completely random. I don't understand the point. I'm kind of baffled in all honesty, esp. since it was obviously a dangerous creation.


It was probably just fent. mixed with whatever he thought might "look right." Ya know this mix was obviously sold as "Heroin." It was just created by a retard. and the morphine part was probably just an error in the machine...or it got confused with the other opiates..
 
what i dont get is why anyone would buy that shit as heroin...wouldnt it have a bunch of green flakes in it? they dont make any kind of injectable powder kratom do they? Fent morphine caffeine and diphen doesnt sound too bad, but why the fuck kratom.
 
what i dont get is why anyone would buy that shit as heroin...wouldnt it have a bunch of green flakes in it? they dont make any kind of injectable powder kratom do they? Fent morphine caffeine and diphen doesnt sound too bad, but why the fuck kratom.

That's what I was wondering too: primarily, is kratom soluble in water? Mitragynine salt would be soluble, and they'd possibly call that kratom.
 
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