Florida House Passes Watered Down "Rachel's Law"

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Law Enforcement: Florida House Passes Watered Down "Rachel's Law" in Bid to Protect Informants from Dangerous Assignments

Drug War Chronicle, Issue #583, 5/1/09

http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/583/rachel_hoffman_informant_bill_florida

Inspired by the murder of Florida State University graduate Rachel Hoffman, 23, after Tallahassee police sent the small-time pot dealer out with $13,000 to buy cocaine and guns from people she didn't know, the Florida House of Representatives Monday passed a bill that would require police departments to protect confidential informants. But the measure was considerably weakened after law enforcement lobbyists protested it could weaken their ability to wage the drug war.

Hoffman had been busted on small-time marijuana dealing charges and was on probation when she was busted again in 2007. Rather than face the threat of probation violation and prison time, the young woman agreed to work as a confidential informant for the Tallahassee Police Department. Her body was found in May 2007, 36 hours after she went to meet the drug dealers and lost contact with her police supervisors.

In its current form, the bill, HB 271, would require departments to have written policies on confidential informants and to train officers on those policies. It would also require departments to "consider" factors such as an informant's age and maturity, whether the informant is in drug treatment, and the risk of physical harm.

Hoffman's parents and the bill's sponsor, Rep. Peter Nehr (R-Tarpon Springs), wanted to bar police from using people in drug treatment as informants and from using nonviolent informants to try to entrap people with violent criminal histories. The original version of the bill would also have required police to tell potential snitches they had the right to talk to a lawyer before agreeing to work with police.

But law enforcement lobbyists, including the Florida Sheriffs Association, prevailed in watering down the bill. They told legislators any restrictions would discourage recruitment of snitches and deny them a valuable crime-fighting tool.

"Any one of these things would have saved Rachel's life," Margie Weiss, Rachel's mother, told the Pensacola News Journal after a committee meeting earlier this month where the bill was gutted.

"Rachel Hoffman's death was unnecessary and unneeded," said Nehr after the measure passed the House.

The measure as passed won't provide as much protection to informants as the original bill, but it at least serves notice to law enforcement that it needs to consider more than just making the next drug bust. It now goes to the state Senate.

 
Police could give a fuck about their informants, sad but true. To the police, informants are just low life scum who are lucky not to be in jail. I seriously hate the police :X.
 
It's truly horrifying what happened to this young woman.

In my humble opinion the police directly responsible for putting her in "harm's way" should be prosecuted on manslaughter charges.

And before anyone jumps in with "snitches deserve to die" I think that just a small amount of common sense and empathy for another human being's plight (I imagine the police practically and ethically forced this woman to do what she ended up getting killed trying to do....... by scaring the shit of her, wildly exaggerating her possible sentence if she refused to co-operate and they prosecuted her to the fullest letter of the law...I speculate but it kind sounds credible to me) should impress upon most thoughtful members of Bluelight that the police scare the shit out of a lot of people - and especially a young woman with priors caught for a third time.

This whole story from start to finish has saddened me tremendously.
 
I think rapist and people who touch children do. Mass murders, serial killers, people under the speed limit, people who talk too much, people who wear dumb hats......
 
Yes, on topic please.


Funny thing about informants, is that their word is good when it's used to convict some alleged criminal, but when they're talking about illegal practices used by LE, they're worthless. See what's going on in PPD narcotics unit for a clearer example...

In its current form, the bill, HB 271, would require departments to have written policies on confidential informants and to train officers on those policies. It would also require departments to "consider" factors such as an informant's age and maturity, whether the informant is in drug treatment, and the risk of physical harm.
That's it?! How the fuck was this not in place to begin with?
 
Around here its well known that informants don't get shit as far as protection.....and sentencing.


apparently the DA or some big shit has to authorize a deal, snitches only get reccomended lighter sentences, if the judgeola feels the same way as everyone else about rats, they may get extra time. (judge has huge/ultimate authority over sentencing)

could be some kind of street myth to discourage snitching, idk, but thats what everyone thinks.
 
Funny thing about informants, is that their word is good when it's used to convict some alleged criminal, but when they're talking about illegal practices used by LE, they're worthless.

Poignant point there Phrozen.

Thinking about this case specifically and then wider to consider more specifically what "checks and balances" exist to police the police I immediately concluded that this question was rhetorical and that a standard answer did not exist.

Seriously, when thinking about how little the police is policed pretty much all across the world I'm reminded of Lord Acton's famous quotation:

Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. :\
 
Yeah it's pretty fucking stupid. The whole piece about "not snitching on violent offenders" is extremely stupid. Just because someone doesn't have violent history it doesn't mean they still wouldn't beat/murder a snitch. Just counting my close circle of friends, I'd guess 4/5 of them would gladly kick a CI's ass and none have them have any charges let alone violent charges. I'd assume that it's only a matter of time before someone else gets murdered and the police don't change anything. If they really want to make it a war on drugs maybe we should fight back. Emphasis on MAYBE. I wonder what would happen if every CI got the shit beat out of them?

Edit: I'm just talking hypothetically. I know it's not completely the CI/snitch's fault. When the cops tried to get me to snitch they refused to let me talk to a lawyer, screamed at me, exagerated my charges and 4 months later and no snitching I still haven't been charged.
 
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