Flee bites!!

[Bearlove]

green tea tree oil for your bites then frontline works great for the house and dogs. If your worried about it pop to your vets and see what they suggest

 

[fizzle]

Frontline is disgusting. It's neurotoxic to dogs and humans. It's also an environmental toxin that effects bees and fish and such.

Just out of curiosity, where are you getting your info? I have a very hard time believing that if this were proven in any way, vets would not go around endorsing it so much. I know the vets I use for my pets adore animals and would not be endorsing a product that was that dangerous to them.

 

[tiggerific]

What does brilliant mean, tiggerific? Harmful to human health and the environment?

Brilliant as it stops the wee buggers from biting. fleas and ticks can carry various diseases including lymes disease. I would rather use something that is effective for my animals and thus protecting my family from potentially worse things.

eucalyptus oil, tea tree oil, manuka and niaolli oil are all good for putting round the house to help reduce the amounts but it will not stop them, nor does it stop your pet from bringing them in.

 

[Coolio]

Just out of curiosity, where are you getting your info? I have a very hard time believing that if this were proven in any way, vets would not go around endorsing it so much. I know the vets I use for my pets adore animals and would not be endorsing a product that was that dangerous to them.

LOL. You think veterinarians or doctors or the FDA give a shit about the health of the patients? All they care about is corporate profits. They're allowed to fill all our hygiene products and household use products with all kinds of neurotoxic, endocrine disrupting, and poisonous substances as long as it makes a buck.

Almost all of the household or commercial agricultural pesticide type products are very harmful to human health, but perfectly legal to let consumers consume.

The fluoride they add to most peoples' drinking water is also neurotoxic.

http://www.pan-uk.org/pestnews/Actives/fipronil.htm

Mode of Action
Fipronil is an extremely active molecule and is a potent disruptor of the insect central nervous system via the (-aminobutyric acid (GABA) regulated chloride channel(25). Despite the fact that the GABA channel is important in nerve transmission in both vertebrate and invertebrate animals(26), and that fipronil does bind to the GABA receptor in vertebrates, the binding is ‘less tight” which offers a degree of selectivity(27).



Acute Toxicity
Fipronil is classed as a WHO Class II moderately hazardous pesticide and has a rat acute oral LD50 (the dose required to kill half a population of lab animals) is 97 mg/kg(35). It is less toxic to mammals than to some birds, fish and most invertebrates.
Fipronil has moderate acute toxicity by the oral and inhalation routes in rats. Dermal absorption in rats is less than 1% after 24 h and toxicity is considered to be low. In contrast, it is of moderate dermal toxicity to rabbits(36).
The photodegradate MB46513 appears to have a higher acute toxicity to mammals than fipronil itself by a factor of about 10(37).

 

[Coolio]

Brilliant as it stops the wee buggers from biting. fleas and ticks can carry various diseases including lymes disease. I would rather use something that is effective for my animals and thus protecting my family from potentially worse things.
.

I assure you the poisons you use are worse for your brain and health than the risk of Lyme disease.

Much better for putting around the house than those oils you listed are diatomaceous earth or sodium tetraborate.

 

[dokomo]

I assure you the poisons you use are worse for your brain and health than the risk of Lyme disease.

Much better for putting around the house than those oils you listed are diatomaceous earth or sodium tetraborate.

I understand how some pesticides can be harmful if used irresponsibly, but come on. We've been using Frontline on our cat for years, like literally since its been available. She's 18 years old.

I don't bathe in the stuff, and I wear nitrile gloves when applying it.

And Lyme disease is endemic in many parts of the USA and its quite possible to have the disease and NEVER get rid of it, due in part to its difficulty to diagnose and the myriad of other vague conditions it seems to cause(fibromyalgia, etc.)

And your previous post to me about it damaging my liver, brain and heart... Whatever. Show me research. Brain cells die every day, people use that phrase to be dramatic but unless you're willing to be precise and back up your dramatic statements, they're useless.

 

[fizzle]

^Yea I'm going to have to agree with all of the above... I personally know people who are vets, in fact one of them is my cousin. Believe me, if she was in it for the money she'd find a new career. I havent seen any solid research (or any research at all, in fact) to back up those claims you are making about the frontline products.

As for the fluoride... thats a topic I dont even want to get in to. You arent drinking the stuff (except for the minute amounts that some places put into drinking water, but even that is minimal), I can tell you first hand that it makes a huge difference for your oral health. Show me a person whos gotten any damage from fluoride. So far everything I've seen (for humans, I'm not claiming to know its true effects on animals) is such BS and poorly backed.

 

[tiggerific]

don't get me wrong I dont mind using borax in my toilet, but to ground that up and put it over furniture and carpets??? it would be gone the minute I cleaned.
I would rather risk a little frontline.