First US Marijuana Cafe Opens in Oregon

Bob Loblaw said:
A weed clinic isn't a cafe.
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True, but it's not particularly difficult to get a medical marijuana license, and I doubt that all the customers go to the cafe with the sole goal of treating illness (what kind of medical clinic serves food?) It's not much of a secret that medicinal marijuana is used as a backdoor to semi-legalized recreational smoking, and this is good progress.
 
also....

11/16

DENVER (AP) - Colorado Attorney General John Suthers has issued a formal opinion saying medical marijuana is subject to state and local taxes.

The opinion issued Monday says only seeds would be exempt from sales tax in Colorado. Otherwise, it would be up to vendors to collect and remit sales tax on other forms.

Suthers says medical marijuana is considered personal property that can be taxed. He says it doesn't qualify as a prescription drug that would be tax exempt, and it doesn't generally qualify for agricultural tax exemptions. Retailers must have a state retail sales license.

An amendment approved by Colorado voters in 2000 allows marijuana use for "debilitating medical conditions," but marijuana remains illegal under federal law.
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This could really throw a cog in the works of the overnight dispensaries, no? Anyone know how difficult it is to obtain a retail sales license? Now hard sales numbers are actually going to be counted, quantities sold kept track of, and I'd imagine a whole slew of other prying eyes coming in.

Of course, if we actually want it to be legitimately legalized, this is a necessary step. Can you really say weeding out those not professional and responsible enough to work out obtaining a state retail license is a bad thing? Of course if they use that as a bottleneck that could potentially be a suffocating problem.
 
a friend of mine visited on opening day...he, and all others inside the shop, were medical marijuana patients and members of NORML, and payed the 25$ membership fee

Sounds like a speakeasy...except for the fact that all of the herb, hash, pool, tv, bongs, vapes, papers, are ALL free! The only thing you pay for, since the sale of pot is ILLEGAL in oregon even under medical standards (you are allowed to be compensated for your time if you are a grow site manager IF you are providing your patients with MORE than the neccessary two FREE ounces each medical marijuana patient recieves per month)...all pot is provided on a donation basis! Tears were streaming down several obviously sick patients as they entered the doors and experienced, in many cases for the first time in years, all the sweeeeeet sweet medicine they needed!

If only the food were free

=D
 
Weed plz lololol

i wish we would adopt Amsterdams law on cannabis. Just a little amount should be legal as long as its not in public. im not sure if thats exactly how Amsterdam works it out, but thats fair IMO.
 
bottom line: ganja is one of the most beneficial plants on the planet. judging from 10,000 years of crop domestication, there is absolutely no way that it will remain restricted for much longer. period.
 
Props to Oregon.

Sadly, I just left the PDX area. But, I'm glad reform is actually happening on a grassroots level. Change is coming.
 
Wow thats shocking! Im surprised that the first wasnt opened in california!

Congradulations Oregon!
 
^^^it actually was first opened in California. I won't go on about this cuz I already did earlier on in this thread, but there have been several legit, legal hash bars operating in the LA area for some time now. I don't know why the headlines are saying Portlands is the first, but whatever, its in America so thats all that matters.
 
Here in California, a petition has been circulating to get on the ballot for either June or Nov 10' to legalize cannabis period! HH15 is right because with the current scheme, you get a "Rx" and some of the "dispensaries" trully are hash bars, ect...psych night has a point too, this is a "medical clinic" or whatever. Hopefully if the initiative passess we can get rid of the stupid facade and MDs that are getting rich writting Rx for people with a legitamate medical need or not (I don't think that any insurance plans cover this type of consultation but I might be wrong.Just think if you could get an 1/8 of trainwreck for $7.00 with your co pay.%)
 
IAmJacksUserName said:
True, but it's not particularly difficult to get a medical marijuana license, and I doubt that all the customers go to the cafe with the sole goal of treating illness (what kind of medical clinic serves food?) It's not much of a secret that medicinal marijuana is used as a backdoor to semi-legalized recreational smoking, and this is good progress.
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I live in Sonoma County- It's not particularly difficult to get one of these licenses with a medical exam, (either from your gen-practitioner, or special services provider (like Medicann) but MOST of the dispensaries serve edibles. Some people who have illnesses that are treated with medical marijuana can't (and even prefer not to) smoke things. Our local, Sebastopol dispensary has smoke, hash, oils, tinctures and food. Check out ~Peace In Medicine~ or any of the Nor-cal dispensaries. They ALL have food:) Yay for California, and now YAY for Oregon! I used to live in Portland, and miss it greatly. I'm so glad that this is happening there, too! :D !
 
you know, this story is all nice n everything. but people still make cannabis out to be a bad drug, and only look as far as the smoke able bud part, when in reality violent crimes due to smoking to much of the bud is allmost un heard of, if anything its due to it being on the black market in the first place. But you watch T.V and you see these celebrities getting in fights, crashing cars, or if you have been keeping up with the news, the beat down of Tila Tequila due to alcohol. you have to ask yourself... what if they just smoked weed ensted of drinking? how much different would the outcome become?

Anyways, it makes me really sad how close minded most of the public and government is about weed. everyone only ever seems to talk about the buid part of cannabis and completely ignore the economic value of it. Cannabis seeds, hemp fibers, hemp oil. Henry ford made a car out of hemp plastics even made it to run off of hemp oil. hemp seeds are extremely healthy for you, along with hemp oil. you can make shoes, shoe laces, shirts, pants, undies, hoodies, scarfs, hats, homes, twine, socks, vaginal cream for yeast infections, cars, gasoline, cooking oil, i mean the list can go on.

Can you imagine all the job creation?

not only that it is a CLEAN, RENEWABLE resource. the leaves can be used to put nutrients back into the soil to be used again. you dont need massive amounts of pesticides on it and it doesnt leave the soil depleted. Obama is preaching about how we need clean, renewable, environmentally friendly energy. but he overlooks the simple answer to it witch is Industrial Hemp.

it really irks me that all anyone ever talks about when they are talking about the legalization of marijuana is the bud part. when there is so much more to the plant than that.
 
:( What about us minorities who need opiates for depression so people like me can piece my life together again and be active and love life,hobbies etc again? dont get me wrong I'm not totally complaining, this is cool that we "got our foot in the door" so to speak by legalizing weed. Obama did some cool stuff so far which I had a feeling he would do, thats why I voted for him.

I really hope that Marijuana legalization becomes standard in all 50 states of the US. I also hope Obama quickly also realizes how horrible and undertreated pain patients are in the US and how Opiates are still so frowned upon thanks to rush limbaugh ruining it for all legit opiate patients in need by abusing Oxycontin and causing Purdue Pharma all the heartache and severe financial hell its gone through.

I have been through hell and back from so many surgeries both major and minor to moderate. One time I had to have intestinal surgery, long story short the local hospital I now hate, treated me like a worthless junky piece of meat by just plopping me down on the recovery room bed. I laid there shaking, barely able to speak, the surgeon ordered this fat bitch nurse to give me a benzo to stop me from shaking. This ignorant bitch said "he can't have that he's on suboxone". Doc said, well we have to do something he cant just shake like that. Before I could even get the surgeon's attention to tell him I took 5 10mg valiums off and on in the recent past and it only calmed me and made me feel better this dumb nurse is just discriminating against me. He did nothing, I mean hell I thought what the surgeon orders the nurses to do, they must do it because all they are, are just nurses and docs and surgeons are the boss.
I will NEVER have surgery at that piece of crap hospital again.

But I am a legitimate pain patient to this day, my colon specialist who I have to see every 6 months, told me that due to scar tissue on my intestines I will for the rest of my life most likely have to deal with intestinal pain. So about a month ago I found out about a great pain clinic close to me that a nice pharmacist recommended me to. However I got bronchitis and things have been hectic as hell the 3 weeks that I had to wait to see the doctor at the pain clinic. In the meantime I screwed up and didn't get around to getting my recent med records together. So at the beginning of this month(Dec) I saw him and he seemed real nice, I could have had some good opies prescribed to me that late noon, sadly he said he couldn't do anything because my med records aren't in yet.

1st thing this Monday I quickly called all the needed places to fax my records to them, however the "dump" as I call it, methadone clinic was not too happy to see that I wanted to leave them and go to the pain clinic because they just want my money. Also my counselor there who I dont like said "I'm sorry but I dont want to hear that you od'ed etc or died because you know that you tend to frequently take more of your medication than your supposed to in order to get high and I'm going to have to tell the pain clinic this. I said oh gee I hope they are not going to reject me because of what you tell them. Also I forgot to tell you(counselor) that I just saw my family doc a few days ago and he did a ekg in his office and wrote up an echo test for me and I told him to fax it all to the methadone clinic. I also told the counselor that my doctor said that the methadone is causing my heart issues, that's the other reason I want to go there.

My counselor said "well you know you can't be here and there at the same time, are you just trying to get more opiates? I said no, I'm sorry I miscomunicated to you, what I really mean is, I want to quit coming here and only go to the pain clinic because I do have intestinal pain almost every day, so I do have a legitimate reason to go there. Oh ok I'm sorry she said I understand now, but you need to sign a release of info form so that I can talk to the pain clinic, which I reluctantly signed.

But good news is my psych doctor who scribes my valium and xannies also had to fax recent records to the pain clinic too and when I talked to him, he was very understanding and was very supportive to my needs and didn't say anything about telling them about my misuse of my meds etc. So wish me luck everyone. I really hope that since methadone is causing me heart issues that I will luckily get in the pain clinic and finally off deathadone(methadone) so I can piece my life back together again and be pain free and also enjoy life again since opiates wipe away my depression and that tired ambitionless feeling I have almost everyday.

I sure hope Opiates are next to be legalized like weed, because the poppy plant is just another plant just like the cannabis plant.
 
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