First trip in which I thought I was dying

[obleo]

I have had many experiences with shrooms and LSD, but a incident on mushrooms has left me a little intimidated. I generally do not have bad trips and if it starts to go a little weird I can for the most part bring myself completely out of it, especially on LSD. for most of my trips I had a sitter near by just incase.

The last few trips I felt I was ok doing with out a sitter because I wanted to have a deeply personal trip alone. This wasn't an issue until I picked up an 1/8th of shrooms.

I usually take the entire 1/8th because I feel it is my perfect level. These gooms were stronger than I had ever had before. I started tripping very very hard alone and everything was fine for about an 1.5 hours. The mushrooms continued to strengthen. My stomach becomes really upset. Which I always expect, and is why I take pepto before hand I felt the pepto wasn't working.

Out of nowhere I puke, following this is what seemed to be hours of violent puking. No matter how hard I tried to relax or focus my mind else where I could not stop. I've never had such hard vomiting.

This ruined the entire trip as it looked like I was puking up my insides.
Does anyone know what could of caused this, or was it just one of those trips. Also if this ever happened again does anyone have any ideas on how to stop throwing up or help it.

I know every experience every mushroom and every person is different but has this happened to anyone else?

 

[Qnick]

It's not uncommon for mushrooms to cause nausea, and it's also not uncommon for the potency of grown drugs to have extreme variances. It's not a pill, the conditions they are grown, and even genetics, can cause some batches of shrooms to be more potent.

You may have had a more extreme nausea reaction due to having a higher dose of the fun alkaloids than you were used to.
And as with any psychedelic, your mental state determines much of the trip, so feeling physically ill may have just caused you to become fixated on not feeling well.


Or it may be that the mushrooms you ate weren't preserved correctly and you had some sort of food poisoning from a moldy mushroom.
I'd say make sure any shrooms you eat in the future are either fresh or completely cracker dry, and maybe try making them into a tea to help lessen gastrointestinal distress.

 

[obleo]

This batch looked really fresh and good. My girlfriend took a little over a half 1/8th and had a great trip on another date. its very possible that I got fixated on the fact that I couldn't bring myself out of it, which was unusual to me. I've heard great things about tea but for some reason never made it. I'm usually too excited and eat them. I know I could search this in a second but I'm using my phone and the search is not working well, but does it usually require more shrooms in the tea to reach the same effect as eating them. I feel so uneducated about tea haha, does the boiling water or heat affect pysclocibin in any way?

 

[Jesusgreen]

Or it may be that the mushrooms you ate weren't preserved correctly and you had some sort of food poisoning from a moldy mushroom.
I'd say make sure any shrooms you eat in the future are either fresh or completely cracker dry, and maybe try making them into a tea to help lessen gastrointestinal distress.

Although the harm reduction is good I wouldn't want to jump to such conclusions. Most/all psychedelics produce nausea in a good percentage of people that take them, I believe action on the 5HT receptors is responsible for this - plus psychedelics have the added effect of easily compounding mental issues into physical ones (e.g. if you worry you might feel sick)

Try not eating before the trip for a good 3-4 hours minimum, take 25mg of DPH (Diphenhydramine) and see if that works

 

[obleo]

Actually benadryl sounds like a great Idea. It's worked wonders with come downs on various substances. Ive seen enough mushies to recognize if they are fresh or dried, but I'm no mycologist. I know that theirs a risk with eating any mushrooms but I accept that upon ingestion. : ) thanks for the advice, happy trippin!

 

[TheAppleCore]

I wouldn't take any drugs to subside nausea.

Nausea and subsequent vomiting is just your body's way of naturally expelling toxins. That's a good thing.

Many psychonauts working with nauseating entheogenic herbs and fungi have learned to incorporate this into a positive effect. It has been said that the nausea produced by these psychotropic plants can be turned into ecstasy if you learn the ways of doing so.

 

[plusfourpirate]

ahh...the "am i dying" feeling..

i think we've all had a trip like that at least once..

one of the hardest trips ive ever had that went south was on one hit of acid. word was tht some grad school kids had gotten ahold of some raw and mic'd this shit wrong..i remember looking at my friend, and his eyes turnng red, hair growing out of his face to where he looked like a werewolf. he knealt down to me and was like :are you ok man?" his voice all distorted..i flipped my whig officially. i thought i had took too much and had an anxiety attack,,found myself walking around asking ppl if i was going to die..

ahh,memories

 

[obleo]

I wouldn't take any drugs to subside nausea.

Nausea and subsequent vomiting is just your body's way of naturally expelling toxins. That's a good thing.

Many psychonauts working with nauseating entheogenic herbs and fungi have learned to incorporate this into a positive effect. It has been said that the nausea produced by these psychotropic plants can be turned into ecstasy if you learn the ways of doing so.

Interesting. is there more information on this? usually the nausea is ok with me. This experience though, the nausea came so fast and before i knew my body rejected everything. i have never thrown up so many times and so hard there wasnt even a chance to stop and lift my head for what seemed like forever of course i was tripping very hard and probably manifested this situation into something worse. i seriously thought my inside were coming out of my mouth. Even though this was an unpleasent experience i did learn alot about my self and would still go through it.

 

[TheAppleCore]

^ Yep. I can totally relate, my friend. Lately I've been experimenting with ayahuasca, and I've been having my fair share of "I'm DYINGGGG" trips. :D Horrendous nausea part of the package as well.

I learned about the positive perspective on nausea from the Ayahuasca Forums. I highly recommend you go there, honestly explain your situation, and just ask for some advice. There are some awesomely accomplished neo-cyber-shamans who will be more than willing to help you deal with high dose mushroom madness I believe (even though it's technically an aya forum).

And what if I were to tell you that with practice, the "distracting and obnoxious" nausea can be transformed into *ecstasy* without getting rid of it or ignoring it? By working with the nausea as *energy* and unblocking it so that you can experience bliss?

I would not *want* to get rid of the nausea because it is a fundamental energetic vehicle of transformation.

Work with nausea, not against Her -- She is the Boa that coils through your body and is the core of Ayahuasca!

If you don't want to accept the nausea, then you don't accept the Boa, and you can't accept what Ayahuasca has to offer... very simple.

One of the fundamental lessons that Aya teaches is to overcome that which you have been programmed to think is insurmountable.

Once you can free yourself of this programming by taking the first steps to embrace your Nausea, you will be ready to go beyond yourself to learn the other lessons that Ayahuasca has in store for you.

Posted by the active and wise member "druiddream".

 

[captainbeefheart]

possible allergic reaction? me n my gf once each took an 1/8th from the same batch and her face swelled up and she started puking, feeling violently ill. I was in the backyard laughing hysterically while her friend took care of her