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First time trying to quit opiates (dope/roxy)

watermellon

watermellon

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Well I've been fucking around with opiates for 5 years with no dependence problems....until the last 3 months when me and my gf split if. I was pretty depressed so I used at least 5 times a week in the beginning then got up to 6-7 days a week. Tolerance went pretty high. At my highest I needed 90mg of roxy. Usually always up the nose, sometimes split it half and half. If they were good bags (3hrs from philly, 2 from nyc, 1.5 from reading pa) 2 would get me pretty good. I only snorted it and did way more roxy, like a 3:1 ratio.

Prior to the last 3 months I was doing vicodin/percs 2 sometimes 3 times a week. The highest I would ever dose then would be 50mg with the norco's or 35-40 of oral oxy ir. Now those dose's make me feel normal. I didn't take any opiates this past friday, felt fine that day, got a little buzzed at night tohelp sleep. Saturday morning rolls around still feeling ok, kinda slow from the alcohol. I drank half of a 750ml of wine and 3 beers so I really wasn't hung over. Then around 2:30 in the afternoon when I came in from doing firewood I start feeling like I'm getting the flu. Evening rolls around and I have a fever of 101, chills, the lights and tv hurt my eyes. This was my first time ever experiencing wd's. At 10 I couldn't take it anymore and got 4 norco's and felt 100% better. Took 2 more yesterday and 1 today.

I'm hoping for the best. I just got back into lifting, Lost 10lbs from being high all the time and not lifting regularly and not eating right. I'm off right now for the next few weeks so fuck it i'm going cold turkey. Oh forgot i'm done with cigs too, haven't had one since saturday. Weed and hash really helps with both. I just need some words of wisdom cause lets face it. I have a very addictive personality. Even though I've been chipping for 5-6 years I knew in the back of my head one day this would eventually happen. I need to quit hanging around with the people I used to cop with even tho there close friends. I'm just gonna be too tempted if I don't
 
There's no real way to tell because everyone's different, but I think you'll be able to get through it without too much of a problem based on what you're telling us....I'd avoid alcohol though, it makes me feel even worse. Just the fact that you don't feel so sick to your stomach that you can get alcohol down is a good sign...It's sounds like the kind of habit where it could just be 5 days of sleeplessness, anxiety and mild achiness....Do you have chills! Chills are big indicator of withdrawal, so if you're not experiencing those, maybe it won't be that bad..

You shouldn't have a fever of 101 though, opiate withdrawal makes you feel horrible, get hot and cold flashes that sometimes feel like a flu...But if your fever perisits you should see a doctor..
 
Well I didn't know that about the fever, maybe it was just a coincidence haha. but I feel fine atm cause I took 10mg of hydro and 20 yesterday. Will see how I feel tomorrow. I need to go to the dr anyway to get my temazepam filled again. Never had a problem with benzos, just something about opiates pulls me in
 
Yeah, good luck man! The temazepam should help, but you gotta remember, everytime you use any opiates during withdrawal, it resets the whole thing!

It's very tricky to quit once you have a habit.....I would suggest maybe getting some suboxone or maybe methadone and doing a fast taper, but in your case it may actually prolong the withdrawal or possibly make it worse....
 
Around where I live, benzos are commonly given in medicated detox's and rehabs to help withdrawal symptoms. The most common one I have heard of and personally tried with success is Ativan (lorazepam). It can be highly addictive though, so its generally meant for only short term use. Stupidest thing I have ever tried to help with the withdrawals is switching to stims. Hahaa. It doesn't take an idiot to figure out how bad of an idea that is. Anyways, benzos and chicken soup! good luck! Also, try avoiding things you associate with opiates, like if you always smoke cigs when you're high, cutting back on smoking is a good idea :)
 
Judging by your history, even though you have been chipping for a long time, it doesn't seem like you've had a hardcore habit for a long time, and your tolerance isn't outrageous by any means. Use this as an opportunity to quit, before it gets worse and worse the longer you maintain a habit. Luckily, you have access to a decent benzo, as well as cannabis. The combination of both during opiate withdrawal is incredibly helpful. It will take care of the anxiety, RLS, insomnia, and smoking some hash on top of that will certainly help with the nausea/appetite. The first 3-4 days will be the worst, and after that things will rapidly improve. Just make sure to stay well hydrated, attempt to eat some healthy things to keep your energy up. Take lots of showers if you still have the chills, and just try and stay occupied. Once the worst of the physical symptoms start to subside, working out is a GREAT thing to do. It makes you feel good that you accomplished something, and it helps jump start the natural production of endorphins in the brain.

Suboxone/methadone is absolutely NOT necessary in your case. These drugs are harder to get off of than dope, and will only raise your tolerance unless you know exactly what you are doing. If anything, use hydrocodone to do a quick taper if the cold turkey withdrawal symptoms are too unmanageable. But, I am fairly confident it won't be out of control.

You'll be alright man, just remember, the symptoms DO improve, and things WILL get better! Quit while you're ahead.

Coming from somebody with too much experience with opiate addiction, (dope, methadone, suboxone, oxy, fentanyl, etc). It only gets tougher and tougher the longer you're strung out and after every failed kick.

Good luck man, you can do it!
 
BrokedownPalace said:
Judging by your history, even though you have been chipping for a long time, it doesn't seem like you've had a hardcore habit for a long time, and your tolerance isn't outrageous by any means. Use this as an opportunity to quit, before it gets worse and worse the longer you maintain a habit. Luckily, you have access to a decent benzo, as well as cannabis. The combination of both during opiate withdrawal is incredibly helpful. It will take care of the anxiety, RLS, insomnia, and smoking some hash on top of that will certainly help with the nausea/appetite. The first 3-4 days will be the worst, and after that things will rapidly improve. Just make sure to stay well hydrated, attempt to eat some healthy things to keep your energy up. Take lots of showers if you still have the chills, and just try and stay occupied. Once the worst of the physical symptoms start to subside, working out is a GREAT thing to do. It makes you feel good that you accomplished something, and it helps jump start the natural production of endorphins in the brain.

Suboxone/methadone is absolutely NOT necessary in your case. These drugs are harder to get off of than dope, and will only raise your tolerance unless you know exactly what you are doing. If anything, use hydrocodone to do a quick taper if the cold turkey withdrawal symptoms are too unmanageable. But, I am fairly confident it won't be out of control.

You'll be alright man, just remember, the symptoms DO improve, and things WILL get better! Quit while you're ahead.

Coming from somebody with too much experience with opiate addiction, (dope, methadone, suboxone, oxy, fentanyl, etc). It only gets tougher and tougher the longer you're strung out and after every failed kick.

Good luck man, you can do it!
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I agree with pretty much everything you say, but I wouldn't recommend using hydrocodone to taper....It's really short acting for one, the other thing is, it's really similar to what he was abusing and it seems like it would be hard to come up with a tapering regimen you could easily follow...It's hard to break those things down into accurate doses...Could be done, just sayin....
 
^Yeah no doubt. The only reason I mentioned it was simply because it seems to be his DOC he was using before. Certainly not very easy to regulate, but not impossible. I have used similar methods in the past when I was addicted to heroin. Taper down the amount of bags I was doing per day before I decided to jump off, just to make the kick a little more gentle. If you are determined to quit, it certainly isn't unheard of to use your current DOC to do a quick taper with. I only recommend doing this, if necessary, simply because in his case suboxone/methadone is FAR too powerful to even consider.
 
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