First time trying mdpv, got stimulated out of my skull.

[Pudderkiz]

So, I bought it from some dude, I was piss drunk and he didnt stay around to give tips.

It was quite lots of powder as I have now discovered.. and that mdpv doses range in the 1-7mg dose when you smoke it. Well I have no idea how much I snorted or smoked but it was a decent speed sized liner in total. I guess that was quite the fucking idea not cheking up the dosage and how this stuff weighs.

But yeah, I need some advice; I took 1 n 1/2 etizolam to calm me down and round 3mg zyprexa to just, yeah, not make my heart explode. I am still quite paranoid, and slightly delusional, and agressive.. is it possible that this will turn out pleasant at you know a certain amount of hours, because to be honest I jumped into the biggest shit-hole ive ever done doing this, no pleasure really, thats why redose... I guess its because I prob hit the max dose on the first liner, there is no other way I can explain it, sendt me into obsession mode straight away so I took more. This was prob between two hours, and I went home and calmed down.

How long can anyone give me a certain clue of how long I might be awake and be stimulated because of this? Now the liner size I spoke of earlier that I smoked (not in one, but over the course of two hours and snorting) is probably an exaggeration but it was LOTS if I think about mg doses! truly!

TL:DR insta overdose on first mdpv liner, into overstimulation and managed to smoke more because I tought I didnt feel anything because of noeuphoria, Yes, Im an idiot.. smoked and snorted a small liner size of regular speed in size comparison. How long will I be stimulated? When can I sleep? lol

took 1 n a half etizolam and 3mg zyprexa just not to go totally bananas.

And is it possible for me to ride this out, get some sleep , or not, and then try again with a extreme more degree of caution? Kinda want to get something out of this shit experience.

Thanks in advance.

 

[Lycopene]

Well..... good luck, brother. You are going to be awake for hours and hours. You might not sleep tonight. You can try to, though.

If the etizolam and Zyprexa aren't throwing you into sleep when you're laying down, or helping you get there, you won't for a while.

I hate MDPV. I really wish I didn't buy so much of it.

 

[Pudderkiz]

Yeah.. but I mean.. there does not seem to be much info on MDPV at all on half-life, duration of action, and whatnot. I was able to calm down and get back to.. well, not so stimulated after about three hours after this post. It was a hellish experience! But to be honest I know it was because I was careless with a substance known and feared by many. You hate MDPV? Why? Because of the short high, but somehow long duration of the drug itself lasting much longer then the high, making just having a couple of hours stimulated leave you awake for days kinda hate it? I'm just interested, because I wanna know what I'm in for, I have mdpv left, not much and I did redose a couple of time, this time it was the slimmest doses I even dared to try, like three specs of powder or alittle more, and I actually found it to be quite nice at that level.. people say it's not a focus drug but at the most minimal of doses I felt more concentrated then I have done in my entire life. Now.. it's two hours since I dosed last, and I can see some signs of comedown; like the slight trippy like hallucinations you experience because of sleep deprevation and also a very tired brain.. hopefully, I wont get into another unsuspected hell just because I have redosed a couple of times

 

[angeleyes]

DON'T DO ANY MORE!

I personally think MDPV is the worst thing out there for the exact reason described above; stimulation is short but keeps you awake for so much longer in terms of an agonizing shit one. I've seen friends wonder why they aren't getting high and they will re-dose/underestimate the potency/don't accurately measure and they'll find themselves awake for days in a torturous bender worse than meth.

I have some sympathy for you because I've seen people at their lowest on this, just whatever you do don't redose! Try and ride it out because its the sneakiest thing out there because you'll feel normal but in reality; you won't be.

You'll be awake for many hours unfortunately,

 

[Pudderkiz]

^^^-snip-^^^,

I appreciate the sympathy, and I agree very much with the "you feel normal, but you are not". Witch kinda beats the entire purpose of getting high or experimenting all together. Would anyone really want to ie walk like a drunkard and snivvel with speech but feel completly unchanged? Absolutely not!

But I kinda want to argue somewhat of it's use.

Disclaimer: I am no expert and this is just the unrestrained, uninhibited, self serving post as if anyone actually was even slightly interested in what I feel and think.
It's practically my entire tought pattern from start to finish; as if I need to define, dragged out of my head, no thinking over anything twice included. Hopefully it won't get me banned or some shit, and I can rest having done my other destructive compulsion.

I did, as it happends, redose some more, but miniscule doses to see wether or not I had just gone over the line, and that if, used carefully, could be a nice experience. The thing I think that set me off was a combination of Ritalin, my prescribed ADHD medication. And being pissdrunk, stupid and irresponsible I did something terribly stupid, I didn't experiment it in a safe controlled enviroment, I was not within my full wits and I was never properly informed of what it was like. Witch is my preferred way, and I recommend anyone that don't with perhaps a scientific or research learning mentally to just forget MDPV, it's a waste of time as far as real enjoyability goes, it just does not perform that action very well, you will come back with more and better memories from doing regular Amphetamines.

Personally.. I found mdpv at high doses to be a bunch of horseshit.. now lower doses I like, simply because then it can serve a decent purpose, but it is impossible for me to know anything about why nor how. Because I don't know how much I took, it could have been within normal range yet combined with Ritalin, Alcohol, 2c-i-nbome and Zoloft, or it could have been much much more and I'm lucky to, hopefully, have come out of this with minimal harm. I expected to be orgasmic out of my mind, when you hear about MDPV you hear about how crazy it is, I connect crazy with an experience, MDPV at high doses, with this happening, is not an experience, its just an irrational state of mind, at less than od dosa is just better yet a workhorse.

Instead what happened was that I became quite calmly stimulated without much euphoria at all and therefor I smoked till my whole face was tightening itself over and over and I actually tough that I might have done myself in this time.

If someone had been able to explain to me that this is pretty much a 100% focus drug that can make you very nervous, and has little to no (I dont experience euphoria, and I feel kinda lucky I didn't) true recreational use beyond becoming focused and concentrated; i.e you need to get some serious shit done; then I would probably not try to get high off it. As many people, or my impression anyways, is that MDPV is incredibly similar to Ritalin (can't really testify to the validity of this, but that the impression I've gotten).

Ritalin or methylphenidate to me is totally shit in higher doses. It's a crappy "high" because it's not something that can easily produce shits and giggles, it makes you do the shit you found too boring to before, like cleaning your room for the first time in two months, or reading a Psychology textbook for professors, to simply do the shit you need to do to be able to the shit society demands of us.

And I will def put MDPV in the same category. The only difference is that you can get much more fucked and less apparent side effects. And since it's usually sold extremely pure, and estimated four times the potency of Ritalin per mg, you can imagine that 1mg would be a general morning dose for a person just starting their adhd treatment as in 5mg Ritalin. As I've gathered.

It also serve much of the same purpose as Ritalin; It's not necessarily nice, but it gets whatever shit you needs to do done! (with respectable dose usage).

So all in all, Ritalin isn't fun, they don't give it out to people with ADHD because it's fun.. it's because it gets them to do whatever it is that they need to do to live a reasonable life and meet the demands that we have to do things we don't like and generally our body wouldn't dopamine reward us for doing it. As well as do the menial, perhaps more acceptably tasks witch we, the genetically under stimulated just can't get done, because our biology stops us often our ability to adapt to living and surviving.

Pretty much the only thing Methylphenidate and MDPV does to me is create a want, a motivation. For Ritalin it's getting important shit done, for MDPV it's pretty much just the want to smoke more, the surge of dopamine that is created the moment you inhale is the brains own messenger to tell everything else in your body and psyche that this is important for your surival; Much like Sex (to pass on our genes to the next generation), food (energy for alle other actions), exercise (why your body rewards you so much for this i'm not certain, but it has to do with survival).

It's a part of human anatomy that has just simply backfired completely, because your body can't exactly interprit real survival increasing actions (and subesquently a dopamine reward) actions against drug induced ones, witch forces/tricks/whatever.-

If anyone actually bothered to read this rant of mine, can surly tell I'm still pretty fucked up on this, as I said, you just keep on going, and going, and going.

And another, I am no expert on pretty much anything, this is a rant from a person who has a "compulsive" need to explain. Atleast in this moment.. guess why

 

[Lycopene]

I hate MDPV because it's a bad drug. How were you when you woke up in the morning? Drenched in sweat? I was. The doses I have to take to even feel it are astronomical.

I didn't read your full post, but I can tell just from the length of it that you took more MDPV. It gave me the urge to write too. Did you at least dose it properly this time? I hope you are ok. If you enjoy it, more power to you, right? Stay safe, friend. Don't redose often, just remember, each redose makes the trip last just that much longer, which means you're just going to have to stay up that many more hours.

And don't forget that the longer you stay awake, once the stimulation goes away and you can't sleep, yet you are DYING to? Yeah, my point exactly. Be careful, friend.

 

[Pudderkiz]

I hate MDPV because it's a bad drug. How were you when you woke up in the morning? Drenched in sweat? I was. The doses I have to take to even feel it are astronomical.

I didn't read your full post, but I can tell just from the length of it that you took more MDPV. It gave me the urge to write too. Did you at least dose it properly this time? I hope you are ok. If you enjoy it, more power to you, right? Stay safe, friend. Don't redose often, just remember, each redose makes the trip last just that much longer, which means you're just going to have to stay up that many more hours.

And don't forget that the longer you stay awake, once the stimulation goes away and you can't sleep, yet you are DYING to? Yeah, my point exactly. Be careful, friend.

Yeah, I have much experience and a previous bad relationship with Meth and I have stayed awake for four days in a row on some occassions, and I have created rules for myself to avoid complete disaster. When I woke in the morning my mouth was hurting like hell, like my jaw muscles had definetly been clenched a lot and was incredibly stiff. My tongue was hurting badly on the top surface, maybe because of prolonged dry mouth or because of lining degredation, but it's better now after some food and some spitting and some orange juice... and ofc some residual anxiety witch is prob gonna last another day or two.

I didn't exactly enjoy MDPV, I certainly feel a distinct wish to unknowingly redose, because focus is a problem for me, but I have ritalin so it's fine. But on the other hand, let's say you need to clean your house, go shopping, have an incredible deadline you gotta reach and stuff is just mounting over your shoulders that you can't seem to get yourself motivated to getting doing I don't see why not a small dose of MDPV could be a great aid in that regard.

I'm not condoning use if you are overly stressed and taking on too much work, that's just stupid, you can't be a superhuman no matter how much you wish it for longer periods of time, these are rare occassions when you are out of other options. Failing an exam, test or getting certain stuff done can have big consequences, and therefor its good to have something to pull out some more energy and motivation in times of need. But as I mentioned before, you won't enjoy it very much, it's just you need to get shit done and with this you prob will.

Actually, I felt that it just suddenly passed.. that suddenly I crashed. I didn't crash badly, maybe because I kept taking smaller and smaller doses on three more occasions during the day, and had taken Zyprexa earlier when ODing that I could land perhaps softer, but as I said, there is no way I can know how much I took so it's very hard for me to say, all I can say is take a day to make a proper exploration. Get a MG scale and start down at the 1mg-2mg line and perhaps have some alcohol or some benzo on the side incase you feel a compulsion to redose when it 'wears' off or you keep telling yourself it's not enough; and just let that be your only dose. Thats what I'm going to do the next time, just to see what the range of effects are. Since this is such a little researched drug it's diffcult to know exactly why it's so easy to go Psychotic; some say it's because of it's strenght, but strenght is an abstract term.

Yeah, I usually take some more if I couldn't sleep, it's not very practical crashing at 11am and falling asleep, waking up 12 hours later completly turning around your internal clock.. so I usually just take, with things like meth or speed, stims in general, 'waking' doses, witch are small and just ment to keep you somewhat awake until somewhat before or till normal sleeping hours.

Yes, thanks for the concern That's one other thing I didn't know, is that, using mdpv like an amphetamine or speed is a sure ticket to hell, at least if you don't know its effects. Have you tried meth or speed before? Because if you aren't really a stim user it's easy to fuck shit up, even if you have lots of experience with them.

The only thing that worries me is that at a duration of 1-2 hours when I OD'd I could feel my body was under such a heavy load I have never experienced in my life, that is not good.. it can set off early Alzheimer, create a possibility for stroke in later life, and maybe have even created weak spots or even damaged my circulatory system; but I hope not, and I can't say for sure until I get some tests done, or just wait in due time.

The thing about not getting to sleep is common with most stims.. try downing some cups of coffe before you go to bed, it gets hard. That's why you really don't want to have occasional stim binges without Anti psychotics, benzos or some kind of crash/sleep aid. Sleep deprevation is devestating, and imo prob the biggest problems that come with stims. Just remember that if you are going to take any stims.. it's best to have somewhat planned on it and be prepared with sleep aids before, not after

But when I get a hold of an MG scale and prepared for a suitable time I will def write an extensive report on this drug since I have some leftovers.