First time taking shrooms

[rc3mil]

This will be my first time taking shrooms. I will be taking them with a friend. It is his first time too. Both of us have different ideas of what we should do. He wants to take an eighth at night and go places like the mall and theme parks with roller coasters and people and loud shit.
I want to go camping in the middle of nowhere. Park the car and hike in, set up camp early in the morning and take the shrooms. I want to take 2 grams.

Which option do you think would be better for us? We wont have a sitter at all. It will just be the 2 of us.

How much more would I trip if I took an eighth as apposed to 2 grams?

Thanks to all who answer

Ok well my friend agreed to go camping and take them there but he still insists on doing an eighth for his first time. I want to be on the same "vibe" as he is so we can enjoy the shrooms together. how much more hefty of a dose is an eighth that 2 grams? Will the effects be that much more? Will a bad trip on an eighth be worse than a bad trip on 2 grams?

A little history about me. I haven't exactly had the easiest life. I grew up poor. Im still kinda poor. We get by but not by much. I am upset with my position in life. My wife got diagnosed with cancer about a year ago and had her most recent surgery a few weeks ago. I work at a dead end job. I have been in the States for 8 years now. My parents and all my family are back home. I have arthritis. I have a bit of a temper. My wife gives me shit all the time. Ive been taking shit from her for years now. In the beginning I just took it but after a while I stopped taking it and started dishing it right back. I have been more sympathetic recently since the cancer diagnosis and dont retaliate nearly as often. But she gives me way more shit. Just random stuff she will come at me about.

ANYWAY sorry for that I got a little carried away.

Basically my life kinda sucks. But it kinda doesnt. I have a beautiful family with very cute kids. I should be happier with life.

For the most part im content with my life. I want better. I want more money and my wife and I have frequent arguments about money and life in general about what both of us want.

I have a week to myself so I see it as a unique opportunity to do something I always wanted to do.

I guess another thing I want out of shrooms is for the shrooms to paint a picture for me and show me my life and how good it is.

I have been reading on errowid about trip reports. I have a read a few bad trip reports. One guy got arrested and got fined heavily. Broke his nose and everything. Another guy cried miserably for hours in his bed.

I am always nervous about doing new substances. Before I took Ecstacy I was very hesitant and anxious. Same with weed. Very nervous.

See im already thinking about the potential of having a bad trip.

If I take the eighth in the woods with my buddy and a bad trip comes on, am I just totally stuck in it until the shrooms wear off? Or can I just "snap out of it" and change my thought pattern and have a nice time? The shrooms dont control you do they? Like they wont make me say eat a pile of crap or beat myself with a stick?

If my eyes are open then I will see things how they are correct? Like for instance I wont see giant spiders crawling towards me trying to eat me etc?

Sorry for the length...

All replies are GREATLY appreciated.

You guys have a nice day!

 

[rc3mil]

Well just to throw some more into the mix. I was all set to eat an eighth with my friend but now his guy where he is gona get it from doesnt have the actual mushrooms anymore. He has these capsules.

Psilocybin capsules 3 grams each. $10 per capsule.

So im thinking alright thats not so bad since I wont have to chew the mushroom at all I just swallow this capsule. My friend now says he is going to take 2 of them. Thats 6 grams of shrooms. That seems awful heavy to me. I dont think im willing to drop 6 grams of shrooms my first time. Its my buddy's first time too.

Anyone know anything about these capsules? $10 for 3 grams seems very cheap. Are these any different than straight up eating the mushrooms?
Is it possible to fit 3 grams into one tiny capsule?

How many would you take?

Also say I took 1 capsule and after 2 - 3 hours I feel good so I take another one. Is redosing effective?

 

[infantannihilator]

Well, it would likely be the equivalent of 3 grams worth of psilocybin in the caps, not 3 grams of mushrooms powdered and put into a cap. With that said, really you could be getting any other type of psilocybin based RC tryptamine.

From the sounds of it your buddy is in for a very rude awakening, especially considering its his first time. A whole eighth is definitely manageable, but a 6 gram equivalent of psilocybin would have even some of the most experienced psychonauts floored.

Anyway, being out in the woods can be great but at the same time could potentially be a little scary, you may find yourself wanting to go home and being unable to and having to wrestle coming to terms with that for instance. Issues and feelings about your wife can and will definitely magnify if they're on your mind all the time. Not saying you'll have a bad time, but its possible. As far as your friend taking twice what you want to, yeah his trip will be vastly more intense. You'll be on the same shroom vibe, but different levels of that vibe.

For me mushrooms make me want to be alone and avoid people. Its a very introspective drug for me and places like theme parks, malls, and loud places are the very exact opposite of where I like to be and would almost certainly lead to me having a bad time..

You should both really consider starting with a lower dose since you have no idea how either of you will feel on mushrooms. Its been my experience that as soon as the mushrooms kick in any sort of plans you had prior to the trip get thrown out the window and you're on a ride you aren't entirely in control of, and that fact can lead to bad times with some people.

One thing people often highly ignore when talking about tripping in general is the headspace you find yourself in, the odd body sensations and so on. Its not just your world has cool visuals slapped ontop of your normal sober mindset - and I get the impression this is what you guys think, especially your buddy. This is largely what a lot of people think about psychedelics and it can definitely lead to problems. Thinking patterns and abilities are largely affected in a way that you can't entirely put into words; in general the affects of psychedelics are hard to put into words, words do not do an experience justice. I commend people who make the efforts to write trip reports, but they really do very little to put you into the same mind space.

I say you go for it and have fun but I'd reccomend the two of you doing the same amount and if all you can get is one cap with an equivalent of 3g of mushrooms, then do just one cap. Trust me, the two of you will have a fully immersive mushroom experience at that dose and you'll likely be very glad you didn't go much higher for your first time. I did 7gs once and I will never go that high again, it was simply far too much for me and I know many here will agree with that sentiment.

as far as this goes:

If I take the eighth in the woods with my buddy and a bad trip comes on, am I just totally stuck in it until the shrooms wear off? Or can I just "snap out of it" and change my thought pattern and have a nice time? The shrooms dont control you do they? Like they wont make me say eat a pile of crap or beat myself with a stick?

If my eyes are open then I will see things how they are correct? Like for instance I wont see giant spiders crawling towards me trying to eat me etc?

You will be totally stuck in it. You won't be able to 'snap out of it' when youre fully immersed.. depending on how high the dose is you can sway your thought patterns, but the higher the dose gets the more convoluted and primitive your thinking becomes (very hard to put this into words). Quite often bad trips arent from seeing scary things like spiders coming towards you or what not (though its possible) but more the fact that people get stuck in negative thought loops and can't break out of them. I liken it to being depressed and only thinking negative thoughts and being unable to 'snap out of it' as it were. This is largely why set and setting are so important, any little thing that you find uncomfortable or that which makes you at unease normally will be amplified, and the more you take the more this will happen.

As far as seeing things how they are, yes by and large this is true, you'll see things how they normally are, things will take on patterns and movement, you're not likely to truly halucinate objects that arent there, however objects that are there could look like things like spiders..

Really this is the whole reason why you should start with a lower dose to assess the mind fuck.. it truly is a mind fuck. As I said its really not like the world takes on pretty cool and crazy visuals while you're in a sober head space.. your entire thought processing and sensory systems get messed with.

 

[GreenMachine]

OP your post is a little long but this is what i got from it: you and a buddy are interested in trying mushrooms, the most you have done before is pot and ecstasy. you might be going camping for the trip and are concerned about how much to take/what to do

have you ever tried any other psychedelic drugs? has your friend? you want to take "set" and "setting" into account. set meaning your mindset; your attitudes, emotional stability, but most importantly in my opinion, how you feel when you are to take the mushrooms. if you wake up that day and feel hesitant have doubts, i wouldnt do it. if you are excited and ready to go then by all means eat em up. "setting" meaning where are you tripping, who you are tripping with, and what kind of things you will be doing or what will be around you when you trip. you want to chose the most comfortable and pleasant surroundings possible to trip with.

unless you are eating very large capsules, they are most likely a synthetic drug, possibly not even mushroom-related. it sounds like you are not too experienced with these drugs but there are testing kits available online that can test these things and show what drugs are present in the sample. for me, this is the only way to go these days--you never know what you are going to get.