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First time taking 2C-E

rekoohnza

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This weekend SWIM is suppose to be doing 2C-E for the first time. This is also going to be SWIM's first time doing any drug in the 2C family. SWIM's smoked a lot of weed, and I mean a lot. He's also done shrooms and has rolled many times.
SWIM's going to be taking 30mg of 2C-E and is getting it for NO PRICES. Yes, SWIM knows that's a high does especially for his first time, but SWIM wants to trip hard and wants visuals that are just absolutely insane.
SWIM's going to be doing this at his friends house and its a pretty chill environment. And he trust this guy. He won't be taking 2C-E but will probably be smoking and/or drinking.
SWIM has read a lot about an intense, almost overwhelming body load on the come up of this stuff. He can't say that he's nervous for that. If anything, he's expecting it and is prepared to take the time to deal with it if it is to hit him. And with 30mg, he expects it to hit him hard if at all.
SWIM would be taking one capsule, each containing 15mg, orally. The other one he might open and split the powder up half way, orally taking one half and snorting the other half. He might smoke a little bud because he's heard that helps with nausea and intensifies the effect of the drug.
What SWIM wants to know is this: Will he be able to contain himself when it comes to him making strange sounds or movements? Will he be aware of himself? SWIM's heard that when some people take the drug, though they are tripping their ass off, they are still mentally aware of themselves though they can get confused with the world around them.
The reason SWIM is asking this is because his friends parents will be home but they'll be downstairs, and they literally NEVER come upstairs so SWIM won't be interacting with them. He just want to make sure that He won't at some point randomly start screaming at the top of his lungs with no self control.
Other than that SWIM have no worries about taking the drug, and is actually bursting with excitement. After reading up on LSD and other hallucinogens for quite some time, and experimenting with mushrooms, SWIM wants to take his hallucinations to a crazy level. A level far beyond what he's achieved when doing shrooms, which was only 2.5gs but was still very amusing.

P.S. The visuals are a huge +++ but SWIM is also really hoping to explore his mind and really get to the bottom of some personal issues that have gone unanswered for so long.
 
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No swim here at the light.....be very careful with 2c-e and treat her with respect. 2c-e is mucho powerful and can shred an ego in mere seconds. It can also show you the "real"world in which we live where emotional vibrations effect everyone's reality matrix. The CEVs can take you to any distant place you can imagine if you know how. Be safe!
 
I would say, be very careful with a 30mg dose. 2C-E has a very steep dose/response curve, which means that once you get above 20mg the effects become amplified a great deal with every milligram that you go over this.

I've experimented with 2C-E plenty and if you're looking for a pretty intense experience then I would recommend sticking with 20mg (maybe a few milligrams more if you insist) - especially for your first time. And take it orally, don't snort it.

Also, snorting 2C-E in high doses is pretty dangerous as snorting amplifies the effect a great deal. I personally like to snort it, but in much lower doses (perhaps start with 5-10mg and top up a couple of milligrams every 30-45 mins until I've reached a place that I'm happy with). I've taken 2C-E quite a lot though and know how my body responds to it. I also have milligram scales - you definitely don't want to eyeball 2C-E for snorting.

Don't mean to sound like I'm lecturing or anything, but please read up on 2C-E some more. It sounds as if you've not done your research; taking 15mg orally followed by snorting 7.5mg and then taking another 7.5mg orally would probably reduce you to a quivering mess. Remember, safety first :)

A few tips:

* yes, smoking weed should help combat the nausea experienced when coming up; I've heard that synthetic cannabinoids (e.g. JWH-xxx) work especially well although I cannot verify this personally

* if you want to abort the trip (perhaps it's a bit too intense, or you just need to get to sleep) then taking a Valium works wonders; brings me down very quickly every time

* if you insist on snorting it (I definitely don't recommend this for your first time) then be warned, it stings like a bitch

2C-E is a fantastic chemical - one of my favourites - and as long as you respect it and keep the doses sensible, you're likely to have a wonderful time. Good luck, and let us know how you get on!
 
30mg is a LOT of 2c-e to be taking, try half of that to get blown away. You will be a mess and liable to white out/freak out/get physically ill at that dosage unless you are seriously experienced with psychedelics. At the very least you will be physically incapacitated - I strongly suggest a sitter.


2ce has a VERY steep dosage curve. 5 milligrams can be the difference between a good time and an uncontrollable freakout.
I would take 15mg orally and MAYBE another 5mg an hour and a half later if you don't feel anything. 2C-e is also very long lasting, much moreso than shrooms - make sure you have 6 or 8 hours clear 'cause you won't be sleeping.

Don't snort it either - that's a great way to double the potency, and it burns worse than snorting drain cleaner.

And yeah, no SWIM here.
 
I was also considering taking 15mg, waiting to see how I feel after a while and then just take the other 15mg depending on how everything's going at that point. Would this greatly intensify the effects or just prolong my current state?

Oh and anything on me containing my actions?
 
I was also considering taking 15mg, waiting to see how I feel after a while and then just take the other 15mg depending on how everything's going at that point. Would this greatly intensify the effects or just prolong my current state?

Oh and anything on me containing my actions?

15mg followed by *another* 15mg is a bad idea - as mentioned above, dose/response curve. If you're looking for intense, why not take 20mg up-front and save the other 10mg for another day? 30mg is waaay too much for your first time.

You should be fine containing your actions. My first time I quietly sat on the couch with my girlfriend watching Disney films synced up to Sigur Ros with a contemplative smile on my face.
 
How much more intense are the visuals compared to shrooms? When I took shrooms all I really got was pretty much everything I looked at was breathing and some things on the tv were warped either bigger or smaller
 
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snorting 2c-e makes it about 2x more potent.
7.5mg will feel like 15mg. It will be a very intense burn and very quick come up.
Expect to puke.

2c-e has pretty intense visuals. But they come with the price of a pretty heavy mindfuck.
 
Reiterating the popular opinion here- I would NOT take that much for your first go with 2c-e.

Obviously everybody reacts differently, but I don't think I could do much meaningful introspection at that dose, and I have a fair bit of experience when it comes to tripping. I think it would just be overwhelmingly weird/powerful. Since you don't have any prior experience with the 2c-x family I'd say 20 +/- a few mg will do you well, and at that dose you'll probably be thanking the stars you didn't take 30. :)
 
first time i took 2c-e I did 40mg (20mg then 20mg 3-4 hours later). Way more than I needed but I used to put myself through what was almost heroic dosages back at that time. I don't think I would be able to comfortably handle that amount anymore. Now I never dose more than 15mg, I find it unnecessary.

If you really want to do all 30mg, then do it the way I did, split it on half, and take that, then see how you feel in about 3 hours if you are confident you can handle it then maybe take the other half. But I would not recommend Jumping into 30mg. Weather or not you like strong trips, this is something you have never taken and have no idea how your body will react to it. 2C's are not always very forgiving if you take more than you should have.

Would also just like to note K.bear: The curve is in fact pretty steep, the difference between 15-30 mg is more than double. You may also want to consider taking 15mg then 10 then 5 spread out by a couple hours each, if you insist on taking the full amount.
 
If you decide to take 30mgs please report back.

Yes - whilst I certainly cannot condone taking this amount, if you're dead-set on doing it anyway then I'd be interested to hear your experiences :)
 
first time i took 2c-e I did 40mg (20mg then 20mg 3-4 hours later). Way more than I needed but I used to put myself through what was almost heroic dosages back at that time. I don't think I would be able to comfortably handle that amount anymore. Now I never dose more than 15mg, I find it unnecessary.

If you really want to do all 30mg, then do it the way I did, split it on half, and take that, then see how you feel in about 3 hours if you are confident you can handle it then maybe take the other half. But I would not recommend Jumping into 30mg. Weather or not you like strong trips, this is something you have never taken and have no idea how your body will react to it. 2C's are not always very forgiving if you take more than you should have.

Or 20mg up-front with the option of topping up another 10mg later on. If you're happy with the effects of 20mg then you've got 10mg left over for another day (which you could always snort to amplify the effects, should you wish).
 
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