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First Time Subutex, Please Help!

LaFlamaBlanca

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I am trying to come off opiates, and I need to come off of them fast...

I have never tried subutex, but I take around maybe 3/4th to a whole 40 (insufflated)

and I can maintain fine (without high, just not going through withdrawals) with about

let's say 90mg oxycodone

I have read a lot about subutex and how crazy strong it is (i have four of the 8 mg with the arrows on one side and 8 on the other)

I also take klonopin for sleep at night...

I want to get off opiates badly (I need to go back to Europe and I want to go back clean) (I usually always take tramadol, but can't get ahold of them)

I also take adderall during the day, I can get neurontin.

So for example:

tomorrow morning when I wake up (taking a line of opana before I go to bed)

I think I will try subutex, but how much should I take? (I do not want to get high) I just want to get off this stuff as fast and painlessly as possible...

thanks
 
I took a line of 30 opana mixed with 30opana er tonight(had a little line around 2am).
I also found some tramadol tonight 15 of them, used to use these fine to detox with, can't seem to get ahold of any) I need to detox fast (it's not a mental thing with me, I just hate the horrible withdrawals).

So when I wake up tomorrow, should I try the subutex? Or do the tramadol? I don't want to go into precipitated withdrawals. How long should I wait until I try the subutex? (Was gonna do like 1 mg) and cut that in half every day.
I can't go back to Europe with this habit. My fiancé would kill me. )I'm American).

Anyways. I also have a bupe patch that I got in Spain.

I also take one 20 mg of Adderall a day (supposed to take two, but 1 is plenty for me)!


Any help would be awesome at this point. I am thinking about leaving to Europe around mid next week. I had been doing 1 opana 40 er mixed with Tylenol, that would last me for two days.

What should I do?

Please help!
Thanks sooooo much!
 
Take the tramadol and then the subutex. Start of with a quarter of a sub and see how you feel. Opana is very strong so the tramadol may not help with the withdrawal...as far as precipitated withdrawal everyone is different. I am a super fast metabolizer so l would get high before bed and wake up the next morning and use subs and be fine...
 
One thing to be careful with LaFlama is some people not all though will go through w/d if too much opiate is in the system and they take sub. Subutex is different than Suboxone in which subutex has no naloxone in it which blocks effects of opiates. Be careful on how much sub you do start off at small doses until you are clear of opiate in your system. But being in a "hurry" to get off opiates is impossible I've been through it many times w/d that is so I'm very familiar with your situation but one thing I never did or do is get in the mindset of being in a hurry. It's a long road using sub to ween off opiates. You really need a Drs supervision to help teach you how to taper down from sub but I guess what I'm saying is forget anything happening in a hurry!
 
This is true where they say everyone is different, just as they stated everyone metabolizes drugs at different speeds mind is also very fast as the person stated
 
okay guys and gals... I started yesterday morning breaking apart a small sub... I took 1 mg... that was around 9 am... (I was feeling withdrawals, and just wish I took the tramadol instead, it works better for me) also, I took some more around noon, then a little more around 3:00 pm.... That was in total about 6mg... Then my legs just hurt, where all achy and crampish... Normally I drink A LOT of fluids every day, yesterday I did not (could be because of that).. and I didn't eat anything hardly at all yesterday...

this morning I woke up, ate a good breakfast and took 2 tramadols, 1 20mg ir adderall and that's it... (I dunno exactly why I took the tramadol because I wasn't feeling any withdrawals) Now I have to explains something: I've been told by many doctors my liver is a super liver and metabolizes things very quickly (even a maxillofacial doctor told me this, he couldn't believe it and had to switch to marcain? during his procedure)...

so my last sub was yesterday at 3:00... right now it's 11:30... I don't feel any withdrawals and at no time yesterday did the subs make me high... My idea now is not to take any more subs... to try and stay on tramadol and if I run out of that, go to neurontin...

so I'm not in withdrawals now... do you think this is because of the sub? (last night before bed I did take 4 ibuprofen, legs were hurting and I had a headache)...

but today I feel completely normal....

any tips or anything or any advice would be greatly appreciated...

thanks so much
 
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