Heroin first time smoking Heroin (#3), noob questions

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Hi. sorry if this is too basic that I should have fuond myself elsewhere, recently answered nearby, or such..

Just wondering.. I have some brown powder/crumbs supposed to be H #3, but Ive never really used much opiates before, never H, and have to no test-kit.
While Im pretty sure its real, I dont know, or if any cuts or anyhting..

Also, I just woke up after sleeping about 5hours after a 3days Meth binge, and the sleep I had was probably thanks to Alprazolam (Xanax), which was my first time taking aswell (only 0.5mg), which is now about 8-9 hours since taking. Wikipedia states half-life of Alprazolam is lil over 11hours.
Can this complicate or add much risk if I use Heroin now, even as Im near end of its half-life and don't feel its effects any more?

Waking up after only few hours sleep after days awake on meth is normal for me, and I'd normally slack thru this time (often accompanied by a headache..) not doing much, and smoking weed for like 6 hours, before Id goto bed again and then sleep properly 12-18 hours usually.

Now I have a nice amount of Heroin. Im not even sure how to use it well, or know much about it, but I want to replace the cannabis buzz in this time with carefully testing this Heroin.
Im not sure it's optimal, or only so for the tar-version of H (according to another post here somewhere..), but I am thinking of using a small glass lightbulb-pipe for vaping the H, similar kinda pipe I'd use for smoking the meth.

Now, Ive barely tried a tiny hit, didn't produce much smoke either.. but it melted down and left a brownish lil spot in the pipe. Hard to describe, but I dont think the taste was very pleasant either.


Just wanted to ask if anyone knows to possibly further verify what I think so far... should it be somewhat safe to try Heroin heroin this way now, if I just take tiny crumbs and small hits like every 10 minutes ?

I won't aim for a strong buzz or anything. But was thinking of taking this time to test the heroin thru its effect, which also hopefully givin me a nice lil buzz, and mayb even helping with my headache..



Think this is stupid, risky and hard to judge where the line may go, or should it be fairly safe (consider possibly some remains of Alprazolam in me aswell (and also likely meth, less than 12h since last hits..).. not sure how bad that'd be.),
if I just slowly take tiny hits out of this glass pipe like every 10 min?
Maybe only for a half-decent buzz before I stop, just in case.. I should be easily able to tell before goin too far right? Think so..


Also, anyone know if a glass pipe like this is a bad method and alu foil is raelly much better? I think not, as I seemed to waste very little/none, and never having used foil before Im sure lot would be lost..



uh, think thats all for now.. thx in advance anyway for any answers, and sorry if answered easily elsewhere or I should be expected to know already...
Just took a lil hit and may try a few more every now and then in small amounts, hoping for a half-decent buzz atleast, hoping the risk is negligible like this, and that I'll get some small experience with it and atleast knowing more about this powder I got (evaluating buzz, to tell if its even H.. altho Im pretty sure it is..), but thought Id ask incase anyone around and have any input or suggestions.



Thanks!

 

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Just a thought...

I sometimes made poor decisions shortly after coming down from a stim binge. Not trying to give you some bs like "if you try dope once you'll be hooked" but it may still be worth waiting another day and stick to the herb today. This is a decision you'll want to make clear-headed.

yeah.. I know it's not really the smartest thing, and prolly isn't really any other time either..
I will follow your suggestion and not do any more today.
Ive just had a few hits ovr the past hours, and surely got some kind of buzz, but nothing all that great or anything I think.., bit nervous about how far it would be safe to stretch it, or if Im even still too low for any pleasant proper buzz as most would aim for..
anyway, think Ill end further dosing of this today then yeah.. mayb some weed or whatever instead, and sleep soon.

May try similar some coming day, without including any other drugs. Any opiate user who can tell how/where, if at all possible to tell, when one may be reaching a risky level?
I mean, if I don't find it all that great and wanna keep dosing gradually.. I'd be worried to overdo it in fear the perceived effects/buzz seems more subtle than the risky physiological dangers of high dose.. But maybe Im worrying too much.. maybe I'd get inevitable nausea before it'd reach dangerous levels, or something like that..
and hopefully ODing isn't that easy to do when smoking it, as opposed to injecting or such, n won't be a problem aslong as I just gradually dose my way up and waiting 10-20 mins between each time.. think I should eventually know by myself when I have reached a point to stop dosing?
Anyway, not there yet, and not today.. Atleast taken first step into testing it now then, figured how to dose it using this lightbulb pipe, tho unsure if somehow wasteful that way. Only finding all this information online, and using alone and in secrecy, and also stupidly didnt plan very well or read up much about this in advance, so another reason Im hoping to keep a bit extra on the safe side hopefully will have done that soon and find most answers and other nice info, without having to read over many book-sized tutorials or unrelated (injection info and other stuff Im not getting into anyway..)=s

Thanks

 

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IDK vaporising chemicals isn't that difficult once you get used to it.
Double layer some tin foil, but make sure that the two layers are pretty much touching, dismantle a pen to hoot from, and gently run the flame underneath the foil making sure to move the flame around so it doesn't get to hot.
It should melt and vaporize, do this gentle at first so you know what it should taste like so you can tell when it begins to burn if you get it too hot.
As well if you begin to burn it your heroin should start to bubble and sputter, this is not what you want.
It's easier to tell with something like meth but it works for heroin too

As well if you're using a light bulb vape make sure to be inhaling once it begins to vaporize, you don't really want to just let the bulb fill with smoke then inhale, it seems to work better this way

EDIT: And as for your question foil can be extremely effective when done right.
Any time I've used it for meth I wasted next to nothing because I was careful with heating, and double layered the foil; just one layer of foil is too thin and your product can burn very very easily
The gentler the better, even if it takes longer.

 

[Psychedelic Jay]

IDK vaporising chemicals isn't that difficult once you get used to it.
Double layer some tin foil, but make sure that the two layers are pretty much touching, dismantle a pen to hoot from, and gently run the flame underneath the foil making sure to move the flame around so it doesn't get to hot.
It should melt and vaporize, do this gentle at first so you know what it should taste like so you can tell when it begins to burn if you get it too hot.
As well if you begin to burn it your heroin should start to bubble and sputter, this is not what you want.
It's easier to tell with something like meth but it works for heroin too

As well if you're using a light bulb vape make sure to be inhaling once it begins to vaporize, you don't really want to just let the bulb fill with smoke then inhale, it seems to work better this way

EDIT: And as for your question foil can be extremely effective when done right.
Any time I've used it for meth I wasted next to nothing because I was careful with heating, and double layered the foil; just one layer of foil is too thin and your product can burn very very easily
The gentler the better, even if it takes longer.

I just want to add...

Depending on if you have heavy duty foil or not, you need not double up if you do. Thicker conductive materials hold heat longer... This means burnt heroin.

The lightbulb idea is terrible for heroin, it holds heat way too long, meaning there is even less time to appropriately move the flame away... This means burnt heroin.

It takes too much time for the heat to travel through the glass... meaning you can already be heating it too much before the heroin even vaporizes too good... This means burnt heroin.