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First time oxycodone = well on my way to opiate addiction?

Oh, don't worry. I know the truth about drugs. Yeah, opiates are great for you. LOL. it's for the better though, a worthless person taking themselves out of the gene pool... you and I both fit that bill.
And noob88, I do love my fair share of attention. Of course I don't listen to your advice. It's a DRUG, remember? Yeah I'll just be like everyone else and not do it. Fuck you, oxy rocks!

Nah shit of course its a drug you dumb fuck and if you don't want advice then why fucking post. You asked a questione everyone telling you the same shit were all drug addicts but the difference we didn't have someone telling us this shit and if we did and didn't listen were telling how you would end up. Go look for attention somewhere else. You think your life is bad i guarrenty your shit doesnt come close to mine and ill bet money on that. All I am saying is respect the drug cause it will ruin you. It will destroy you and take everything you have or loved. User it on moderation. This is what everyone has recommended to you. Being an addict is not cool. Yeah we ALL USE DRUGS but we listen to the advice to those with more experience. We use smart. Do the same.

MODERATOR I THINK THIS ALL WE CAN DO DELETE THREAD WERE SOUNDING LIKE A BROKEN RECORD.
 
Have a good laugh at my expense

I'd LOVE to just try Oxy. I've dabbled responsibly with the bottom of the opiate ladder (Lortab). I never developed an addiction, nor have any withdrawls, but I would like to try something as strong as Oxy. I've spent my entire life drug free - no weed, cigarettes, alcohol VERY rarely, and nothing else stronger than ibuprofen...until last year when I was prescribed Lortab and Valium for anxiety mostly. I take everything in moderation, and I'm not addicted to anything...except for maybe my job and sex. =D

I doubt I'll ever have the opportunity to experience Oxy - or anything else that strong for that matter. Just too damn inaccessible. I was a little bored at work today so I made up a little flowchart for ya'll to giggle at. Hope ya like it...
 

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I haven't read any of this thread but just wanted to say, I'm sure you know opiates can lead to a nasty God awful addiction that you can never give back but if you are going to keep using them then there is no reason to be taking doses above 15mg so early. Tolerance increases quickly. Best not take doses above that so early.
 
Thanks guys, real helpful! Yeah harm-reduction alright! Lets stay away from hard drugs and stick with the drugs that really are good for you, like pot and mushrooms! YAAAAAAAAAAAYYYY!!!!!! You are obviously very young if you think this site is producing more harm-reduction than harm-promotion. And I'm only 17. ONLY SEVENTEEN AND DOING COMBOS ALL FUCKIN DAY. So what does that make you?


I'm gonna try to leave out the obligatory "you're a fucking idiot" and keep this post useful. When I was your age was about 5 years ago. I thought it was really cool to do drugs (just like you do "ONLY SEVENTEEN AND DOING COMBOS ALL FUCKIN DAY. ") and that doing drugs made the world a great place to live in, or at least bearable. I made more friends than I had in a long time, being that I had moved from San Diego to Ohio, where I knew nobody and didn't really have friends in middle school. In high school I started selling weed & coke and had plenty of friends, went to parties I'd never been invited to with the kids I thought were the shit (i.e. the hot girls & sports players). I thought life was a ball. I started shooting coke when I was 15 and kept it a secret from everybody except my using partner. I eventually quit after about 6 months of daily use and never touched it again (except maybe once or twice every 6 months at a party) even though I was still selling it. I never did pills, but tried heroin when I was 16. I loved it. I did it only on the weekends for a long time, probably a full year. I had skipped a grade so I would have graduated high school when I had just turned 18, but I didnt. About the beginning on my senior year I started using every day because I always had money from selling weed & coke, and I figured I could control it because I'd quit shooting coke after 6 months daily, and had no problem with it. I thought I could beat the withdrawls, and then the cravings. I was tough; but not tough enough. I ignored the difficulty i had quitting and continued using every day, telling myself I could quit whenever I want; taht I didn't have a problem. I ended up failing out of high school, and failing out of college my first quarter. I ended up fucking up my weed business, and spending my reup on dope (I already stopped selling coke). It took me 6 months of fucking around stealing shit after I ran out of money to start selling heroin. I thought things were great. I always had dope, was making good money, had girls (both using and ones that only smoked weed) had parties at my house, had a great time. Eventually, though, the only thing that mattered was getting high. I still had people coming around trying to hang out with me (people that didn't use) and people that did use coming around trying to steal my shit when I nodded out. Luckily, though, my habit was already big enough that a half gram of fire china white or fire tar didn't make me nod out, and I knew if i did enough to get high my tolerance would keep going up. So my life consisted of selling all day, seeing the dope man, and doing a shot every 12 hours that I hoped & prayed would get me high, but it never did. Spending $100 a day on dope and never getting more than a 10 minute high. Weaning never got my tolerance down, even when i only did .1 twice a day for 2 weeks instead of .5g 2-3 times a day. I thought I could quit anytime I wanted, but eventually realized I couldn't. I was okay with that. As long as I could place my $50 bet on 1:50 odds of getting high, twice a day, I was happy. I was never sick. I got to do $300 of ketamine a day. I was a happy man. Except my teeth were rotting (from not brushing my teeth), all my veins (my neck, legs, feet, arms, hands, thighs) were all busted and it took me about 30minutes of poking to find a tiny vein that would blow out half the time mid-shot, and I hadn't been laid in 6 months, by choice of not picking up the phones for the girls that were calling the first 3 months (after 3 months they stopped calling). Oh, and the cops were building a case against me. Eventually, I got picked up after a CI set me up, and they had followed me to my mexicans. They now claim I had about a half oz on me, and had sold the CI 4 grams that one sale. Plus they had a customer snitch and tell them I sold him 3g in a school zone (which was bullshit, I'd been out of school for 3 years and hadn't sold anything near a school). They busted that one crew of mexicans (out of 3 different mexican hookups) and I spent 10 days in jail until I was given a future indictment and let out. about a month ago my futue indictment came back, and i spent another 7 days in jail until I made bail. I've already spent 7800 on lawyer fees, and my car was take along with about 16k in seized money. All those years selling dope have gotten me was busted veins, rotted molars, disowned by my family, a serious trafficking case, and a good lawyer for that case. Essentially, nothing. and because of the charges, i'm going to do a minimum (thanks to mandatory minimum statutes) of 4 years, probably receive a term of 4-10 years. and I was lucky. think about that statement. I was lucky. most people who do dope dont always have cash on hand. they are sick at least a quarter of time the are awake. the only chicks they fuck take cash only, and give you hiv or herpes or hepatitis as a free gift. many live on the street, or live with their parents at the age of 30 (doesn't last long, when furniture, heirloom jewelry, or appliances disappear they generally get kicked out. or when their parents grandkids or nieces and nephews step on a dirty needle, same thing happens). and they spend months or years in prison for thefts, receiving stolen property, breaking & enterring, robberies, forgery, fraud, etc.

it's not worth it. I used to think like you (albeit a little less self entitled). that a boring life wasn't worth living. but it is. find a woman (or man, whatever you like) that you love, and love to be with. they are out there somewhere. and build a nice, boring life with them. dont make dumb choices for a couple hours of nirvana that result in days, months, or years in concrete and bars, or in the street without anybody that cares for you, or in the ground with your parents crying and asking what they did wrong. you owe your parents more than that. dont end up withering away because of HIV, or hepatitis, when even dope won't make you feel normal. or forced to steal a purse, or rob a store, or steal shit from a store, just to not feel like shit. a boring life is a good life. eating food made by your significant other, or cooking yourself, going to a nice, boring job (preferably one that you like, and believe me, there are plenty of jobs that don't seem like a job, that even you would enjoy doing everyday), and coming home to a woman, man, or family that you love and that loves you and sleeping in a warm bed beats the alternatives. alternatives being waking up dopesick, scrounging up 9 bucks and convincing your dealer to front you a dollar, getting that dime sack cooked up and in your veins, finally feeling halfway decent and human, eating a half eaten hamburger out of a dumpster at mcds, robbing, cheating, and stealing (or panhandling, or the best way, sucking dick or bending over as a male prostitute on craigslist) your way to another dimesack (repeat 3 times), eating some more rotten food, and crying yourself to sleep in your box, or under the bridge, or in the flophouse (trying to avoid sleeping on some other junky's dirty needle). or falling asleep in prison, still on dope, but paying 600 a gram for cut to shit dope and not getting high ever, only getting straight 5 times a week, spending 12 hours of every day and 2 full days every week dopesick. when somebody needs it, sucking their dick for a 5 dollar bag and feeling suck-cessful for making that teensy bag taht wont even get you a buzz. or rotting away in a hospice because of hiv or hep without any pain meds because you used to do dope, with your parents (if they are still on speaking terms with you) coming and looking frail and years older than they should because they actually gave a shit about you.

i can't tell you not to do oxy, or dope, or whatever. and oxy and heroin are the exact same thing. and lead the exact same places. get a boring job, or go to school. find a girl you love to be with, and who loves to be with you (they are out there). work your way up in that job or finish school and get a boring job that pays well and has decent hours. get a work ethic and enjoy your nice, boring life. have kids when you are ready and watch them grow up and go through the same difficult period you are in now. and become successful despite that difficult period, too. just like you will, if you dont make choices now that prevent that transition. I wish i could go back and do everything different. I've wanted that since before I got busted, when i was making plenty of money and still getting high before my tolerance got too high and before I stopped wanting pussy. seriously. now my life consists of waiting on the hammer of felony court to drop, praying they give me a deal that doesn't include too many years of prison, and going to the methadone clinic every morning in order to feel normal. and going to college because i had paid a full years of tuition before i got busted. and keep in mind, my story is a lucky one. I could have ended up like most of my customers. most of the people i started doing dope with (in prison or dead, literally. not the cliche, my original dope using partner is in prison with the other guy we started with for selling rolls. cannon is dead of an overdose. so is scott. so is sarah. lydia has hepatitis c and her liver is failing. only jack, josh, and shay are still alive and dont have a terminal illness and are out of jail/prison. shay is still using and she sells her body to get dope (so shell probalby have hiv / hep / herpes soon enough, if she doesn't already), jack is using and spends half his time sick, and the other half (after he gets his first shot of the day) stealing books and dvds to get more shit, and hes been to jail more times than i can count, has probably spent at least 3 months of every year for the past 5 years in jail for theft and breaking & enterring. josh has been sober for 5 months but has to go to the methadone clinic every day just like me, just to feel normal. and he used to suck dick for his dope, so its probably just a matter of time until his 3-monthly hiv tests start to come back dirty.

hope you read all this.

edit: to the people calling oxy the "top of the ladder" it's not. it's pretty much the same as hydrocodone (without the tylenol). the top of the ladder starts with hydromorphone (dilaudid) or fentanyl(super potent by weight but not very euphoric). i.e. hydrocodone (with tylentol)-->oxycodone (with tylenol) --> hydrocodone (w/o tylenol) -->oxycodone(w/o tylenol) --> (top of the ladder) fentanyl;dilaudid-->methadone;levorphanol-->oxymorphone-->heroin the feelings are all pretty much the same for morphine and its analogs without the 3-methyl group. hydrocodone & oxycodone all are less sedating, less truly euphoric, and give less of a body buzz as well compared hydromorphone (dilaudid), oxymorphone (opana), or 3,6-diacetyl-morphine (heroin). methadone and fentanyl knock you out (more sedating) but provide less euphoria (particularly fentanyl) than morphine analogs (not including codeine analogs)
if you want to do real dope do real dope (heroin/opana) dont try to convince yourself (and/or the world) that oxy is real dope. it's not. it doesn't feel near as good, but is equally addictive to the opiate naive. or really to anybody who hasn't done opana or heroin.
 
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Brother im going to tell you this about oxy.
I started smoking wed. and the next year i was doing pills. within that year i was banging roxys.
I cant deny, oxycodone is the best pharm out there. (besides a few others i shant name.)
I had always told myself no, not me. you know, this is somthing that everyone will tell you, and its another post in this thread.
but it only took me 2 years man. I was 15 when the first needle went into my arm. but i loved getting high, as im sure you do as well. im not much older than you are bruh.
Keep safe man.
 
Oxycodone took everything from me and led to heroin addiction. I lost my house, my car, my friends, my job, my family, my girlfriend...led me to a $200 a day habit (2 grams heroin $60/g; 160mg Oxycodone $40/OC80...$1400 weekly) in which I had to sell coke and steal for. Caused dark depression and anxiety problems that still persist. And I had to often sleep on the streets, find park benches to sleep on which cops always make you leave, bastards won't let you sleep anywhere. I ended up in jail twice because drug related crimes, I'm now a repeat felon who will always have a record.

Luckily I got up on my feet but it took 18 months on Methadone, living in a halfway house and now currently on Suboxone. All of this began with oxycodone addiction. 10mg landed me on 400mg a few years later and had to switch to heroin because it was so much cheaper. Just be safe.
 
TOKETRIP -

I'm seriously in tears. I couldn't feel worse if you'd have punched me in the mouth. WOW. Fucking amazing story, thank you for sharing this.
 
Yeah, the whole occasional dosing thing sure does solve the dependence problem, but easier said than done. I had taken them like you did for 3-4 years, no problems at all. Then I got hurt playing baseball, and got scripted a more steady supply of pain medication. I found that my pain could be masked, and I could feel great. And then the rest is history.. tolerance.. shooting dope.. blah blah blah.

I am glad you guys have kept it under control, but just don't think you are immune because it hasn't happened to yet. Hopefully you never have eto experience the bullshit of hardcore junkyism. But remember most junkies didn'tjust wake up one day and say I wanna shoot dope every day, etc.. It is a slow progression most of the time.

Yep, a script would do it. I know what would happen if anyone ever gave me a script for a good, solid, abuse-able pain killer. It would mean the end for me, no doubt. (I'm not being sarcastic. I would finish a month's prescription in one week, I bet.)

This might sound hokey, but I imagine using pain killers and dope as being a little something like lion-taming. It's a beast, at times an unpredictable beast, but being respectful, careful, and knowledgeable should keep you safe despite the inherent danger. I respect these substances. I am careful in using these substances, and I am knowledgeable about these substances. (Please, no one post a picture of Siegfried & Roy.)

It doesn't mean that I am immune to addiction, and I would never, ever be so delusional as to think that, but I believe it does mean that I am less-likely than others to experience physical dependence/addiction. (But, my body chemistry and genetics could play a role as well.) It's a sticky situation, and that's really all I can say about that. I walk that thin, thin line...
 
Just stay away, man. Easier said than done, trust me I know, but if we're all telling you the same thing then there must be some weight to what we're saying. It's NOT worth it. There are very few people that can control opiate usage, I thought I was one of them. For a while I would do oxy once a week, just on the weekends. I would do a 30mg roxy Friday/Saturday nights, some weeks not doing anything. Eventually (after about 6 months) this lead to 2 nights a week, then 3, then 4..etc. You've heard the stories man, and if I can add just one more to that list, it would be doing you a favor. LISTEN to us.

It. Is. Not. Worth. It.
 
Does anyone else get the impression that the OP is not for real? I detect a hint of irony in the posts... either that, or incredible stupidity.
 
You have no idea what I went through. Calling me a prick while I'm drunk and high on opiates? Like I care!!! Those africans can go fuck themselves and starve to death.

Truth is, what I said before was rash. But what you said was pretty rash, too. Hope you're okay. But seriously, no need to plan get addicted.
 
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i think alot of people have been a bit too hard on the OP. He is young, arrogant and foolish. Like most of us were at 17.

I know you may have decided to leave bluelight, but if your still reading, I want you to reflect on what people have told you. Think about all the stories of addiction, disease, death, prison, depression, poverty etc. that people have told you. that is the reality for alot of people who become addicted to opiates.

Addiction to pharms is not fun. Let me tell you from experience. I was lucky and quickly came to realise that i was abusing oxy (went from getting high off just 10mg, to doing over 130mg a day). i managed to stop it early on and had little problems stopping.

However, I was not so fortunate with benzos (valium). I, like I suspect you are, was doing it to block out psychological pain, in my case clinical depression and anxiety. did it work, yes, but only for a short time. Then you are openned up to all your original problems plus a whole new nightmare of addiction. Even though giving up benzos might not be as bad as opiates, I can tell you it is an experience I never want to repeat.

Save yourself the pain with addictive drugs and either use them infrequently or not at all.
 
i think alot of people have been a bit too hard on the OP. He is young, arrogant and foolish. Like most of us were at 17.

I know you may have decided to leave bluelight, but if your still reading, I want you to reflect on what people have told you. Think about all the stories of addiction, disease, death, prison, depression, poverty etc. that people have told you. that is the reality for alot of people who become addicted to opiates.

Addiction to pharms is not fun. Let me tell you from experience. I was lucky and quickly came to realise that i was abusing oxy (went from getting high off just 10mg, to doing over 130mg a day). i managed to stop it early on and had little problems stopping.

However, I was not so fortunate with benzos (valium). I, like I suspect you are, was doing it to block out psychological pain, in my case clinical depression and anxiety. did it work, yes, but only for a short time. Then you are openned up to all your original problems plus a whole new nightmare of addiction. Even though giving up benzos might not be as bad as opiates, I can tell you it is an experience I never want to repeat.

Save yourself the pain with addictive drugs and either use them infrequently or not at all.
Excellent post.
 
My gawd, kid you sure have some Balls, from this and your post in the Dark side, saying that your always right and everybody else is always wrong, and your welcome to the people you've helped, all the way to your cocky attitude about the oxy " oh I know... it's gonna be a rough road" you must think your fucking royalty or some shit. lemme tell ya your not. also the whole suicide thing...... grow up you little retard. if you really was seriously thinking about killing yourself you wouldn't be posting it on bluelight you'd be making preparations to do so....
I think you need to reevaluate how much weight you think you hold. because the way you sound, you'd think you were some massively important person when, you sound really immature in reality.....
 
I've done opiates only a handful of times and at low levels. I've taken a few norcans and very rarely a small dose of oxy. I had the chance to smoke some heroin a couple of weeks ago, but turned it down. Imagine that. I have a friend who's been hooked on oxy going on 7 years. He has an F'ed up knee that needs surgery but no insurance to pay for it. The ACL is one ligament you don't want to damage. That's my advice for the day.
 
Thanks guys, real helpful! Yeah harm-reduction alright! Lets stay away from hard drugs and stick with the drugs that really are good for you, like pot and mushrooms! YAAAAAAAAAAAYYYY!!!!!! You are obviously very young if you think this site is producing more harm-reduction than harm-promotion. And I'm only 17. ONLY SEVENTEEN AND DOING COMBOS ALL FUCKIN DAY. So what does that make you?

There is no way this guy is 17. im 18 and hes making me look bad. he reminds me of a 13 year old kid trying too hard to fit in.
 
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