Opioids First time - "opium" ?

[bluntman1993]

I recently got some opium from my friend. I have never done it before so I was curious to buy some. I just got it today and to be honest it looks almost like black tar , but very very hard / dried out , not like I've the black tar I've had before. It also has a strong vinegar-ish smell to it which is also making me think it's black tar and not opium. Either way I'm not worrying , but I thought they were truly getting opium , even tho I have heard that it is very rare. The stuff they gave me is very hard and dark dark brown, almost looks black
Until u break it open.

I don't really know how to use it either. As I have had black tar before and I smoked it (I don't shoot). I asked my friend how he uses this and he said he either smokes or rails
(Snorts) it. The black tar I had before was very wet and sticky-ish. If this is actually black tar , I'm pretty sure it is snort- able , as this one seems like u can easily break it down to a nice powder. Should I rail or smoke it ? Or eat it ? I don't have a scale so I would have to eye ball the dosage. What's the best way to get the most out of it? Any other tips are appreciated !

Sorry for the bad spelling I'm on my iPhone

 

[tacodude]

It shouldn't smell like vinegar. I bet you have some black tar heroin who knows how pure. Opium has a very unique overpowering smell that's nothing like vinigar. It also should be brown rather than black.... A buddy of mine made a survey crew order that I was able to see so I knew I've seen legit opium.


Without a test kit no one can tell you what you have though.


Edit: definitely not opium.... No one would repeat putting that bitter stuff even dissolved in water and filtered up their nose more than once.

 

[Freon]

Well a couple times I've had the privilege of smoking real opium and the smell was somewhat like flowers or something. It was hard but crumbly. As you guesses you probably have BTH but the fact that its very hard is unusual and I can't recall ever getting any tar like that.

 

[bluntman1993]

after looking at it some more i am pretty certain it is heroin. vinegar smell. it is very dark brown/black also. but is it very hard but at the same time has a slightly sticky texture to it. would i even be able to crush it down to a powder when it is this consistency? my friend said he railed it. i have also smoked tar before, but people always say if you dont know what you are doing then alot of it will go to waste. i wasnt that good as smoking it but i did get the hang of it (i think, its been a while), whats the more efficient way to do this? I know railing last longer, but you have to use more? also smoking would be better to measure dosage i would assume

 

[tacodude]

Mix into water and squirt into nose. Don't leave it mixed with water too long as it will covert to morphine within an hour.

 

[BuddyTheGuy]

^ that isn't true at all. Long time lurker first time poster. In the name of harm reduction I don't believe telling an inexperienced user to snort an unknown purity of heroin is the safest way to go. I highly recommend that you smoke it slowly (if you are truly hell bent on putting this evil in your body) even if some is wasted it will give you a better idea of the purity and it is arguably safer than snorting. Even when I was using heroin IV daily, I would ALWAYS smoke a new batch first to get an idea of purity. Be safe!

 

[tacodude]

There is using less than a whole point bag...... There's also eating it with water.... In the sake of harm reduction using tinfoil is bad for your health as far as roa of smoking vs oral/nasal use. Smoking it is actually quite difficult. Honestly eating it is safest roa although least likely to produce the "rush" while still giving a great effect.

 

[5_HT2A]

There is using less than a whole point bag...... There's also eating it with water.... In the sake of harm reduction using tinfoil is bad for your health as far as roa of smoking vs oral/nasal use. Smoking it is actually quite difficult. Honestly eating it is safest roa although least likely to produce the "rush" while still giving a great effect.

Yeah I'd go with eating, but if it's heroin it won't do shit if you eat it. Right? But that's how you find out I guess.

 

[tacodude]

I don't know where people get this misconception.... I know people who think 60 mg morphine won't do shit because they are using heroin as if it works completely differently. So many misconceptions.

 

[downerhead]

This may work for you.

If it's tar you've got I know a method of turning it back into powder dope.I don't know how much you've got and this method was done with 60 gram "base balls" so I don't know how it would do if you only have a little bit but here it is:step 1-put the tar in the freezer for a little while untill it's nice and solid and hard.
Step 2-get some milk sugar(lactose,available at health food stores as a powder,though I would imagine manitol,or "bonita"would work as well).
Step 3-in an electric coffee grinder combine frozen tar with lactose powder and blend thoroughly for a couple minutes.
Step 4-Allow it to sort of dry out,then test small ammount to see if it's how you want it.You should now have a sniffable powder.Without a scale,I guess you will have to eye ball the ratio so I'm not sure how it will turn out doing it that way.A friend of mine from San Francisco told me how to do this because I had a tar supplier but no one I knew on the east coast had seen tar in the mid 90s so it wasn't selling,despite the high quality.He taught me this method and if you do it right it works well,though it will still smell like tar when you cook it.The tar I had was blackish in the middle with a dark brown sort of "crust"on top.Does this sound like what you've got?