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Last Friday (17th) I did MDMA for the first time. I took a 'bomb' and a small line of apparently 'good stuff'. Some of my friends had done it before and some hadn't. Needless to say, all of them who did it feel nothing now (5 and a bit days later) whereas I still feel weird and not myself and my vision is slightly hazy. Earlier on in the week I was having major anxiety and paranoia which have sort of gone away really, which is good! The past two nights when I've been going to bed I've been waking up roughly hours later with the sheets SOAKED in sweat. I find if I move positions and put a towel down I can get back to sleep for maybe four hours or more. I spoke to FRANK yesterday and they told my to contact my GP seeing as the MDMA should be out my system by now. I contacted my GP and they said they weren't specialised with these things, to which I then contacted NHS helpline who said it would be a good idea to make an appointment with a doctor in this sector. I've heard night sweats and shivering are a sign of heavy MDMA use withdrawl, how the hell am I feeling like this from doing very little on my FIRST TIME :(

Getting real bored of this now, I just want it all to stop. I'm aware I obviously have low serotonin levels right now but I'm not sure how long it will take for them to replenish and I start to feel better.
Has anyone ever experienced something like this?

I have no history of anxiety problems in the family and have never done any drugs apart from alcohol. I was drinking alcohol on the night I did MDMA.

Should I wait till Sunday to see how I feel?


EDIT: What could this have been cut with, if cut at all?
 
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It could have been anything.

Your absolute best bet right now is to eat a very healthy, balanced diet, stay hydrated and EXERCISE DAILY! Seriously. It will make a world of difference. Sleep 8 hours per night, and sleep at regular times. Wake up in the morning and sit outside - get lots of sunlight.

If you do all of the above, I'm almost certain that you will be back at 100% quite soon. In fact, such lifestyle improvements will probably have you feeling better than ever in a few weeks if you keep it up! You are already making improvements, you are going to be fine. You stressing about it is probably harming you the most at the moment, so just chill out, and focus on eating, sleeping and exercising every day. Take a good multivitamin too. You can go to the doctors if you like, but chances are, they will be of no use to you.

Test your shit in future. Never combine unknown chemicals with alcohol. And relax - you are okay. The anxiety may be causing a lot of your symptoms.
 
Thanks! :) I just dread morning times now as I feel way worse around the time when I wake up- confused, anxious, over-thinking everything, etc. I'm hoping to wake up on Sunday feeling better. Do you have any explanation to the night-sweats? In fact, how long do you think it could be before sleep is not interrupted?

I have noticed that since last night I can't remember what I had dreampt, whereas the whole of this week I would wake up and the dream would be stuck in my head for the whole day. I suppose that's an improvement.
 
you sure you didnt consume any DXM ?
Night nurse has it in, robitussin,

I just had the same experience with mdma rich as you did when i had a bad expereience where id been doing dxm and mdma close together waking up in sweats
 
If I did then it wasn't intentional! To tell you the truth, I'm a complete NOOB with drugs. How long did it take to start feeling yourself again? I believe it's getting better as today I woke up anxious and confused but it faded off within 2 hours. Yesterday this took about 6 hours to fade -.-

It's just the morning time for me, serotonin levels are blatantly at their lowest and it really pisses me off. The only way I can think of getting through these blues as I wake up is to eat breakfast straight away with multi-vitamins, drink lots of water and do some exercise. I know this might be too much information but is masturbation worth doing to release endorphins? Also, when I go to the gym I feel really 'normal' after my workout due to all the endorphins being released. Thanks.
 
The sooner you start taking a positive outlook the quicker you'll recover. You getting all panicked and worried is not going to help anything. Just eat right, get out in the sun and get some decent sleep, you'll be fine.
 
eat right, easy on the sugar breads and dairy, exercise (outdoors in the sun) and plenty of water should help you rebound. One of the worst MDMA hangovers I ever had was when I combined getting drunk with rolling, and I think thats what happened to you.
 
Hello Rich I would also advise you take a trip to Holland & Barrett and get some Neurozan I think that will help you get back to equilibrium as soon as possible. Also whilst your there get some Omega 3, Vitamin C and D if not already in your multivitamins.

I have found visits to the doctor involving drug related issues ni on useless. You could try a trip to the GP but theyll usually prescribe antidepressants or benzos and I dont think either of these will help you. In many ways they will hinder your recovery.

I also dont like the idea of drugs being added to your medical record. I dont wish to sound arrogant but I can almost guarantee the doctor will be of little use to you if any at all. Dont waste your time.

The sweating you describe is more likely anxiety than any drugs still in your system so try not to worrey about that just focus on getting as much sleep as you can. in the end it will pass.

With the exercise schedule already recommended, daily routine, good food and best sleep you can get things should return to normal soon.

The anxiety and paronoia going is a good sign sounds like you are on the road to recovery and just overdid things a bit.

I also wouldnt bother trying to figure out what you took. it might have been MDMA it might not have been unlikely we will ever know. Definitely dont take any further drugs during recovery.

Good luck keep us posted on progress.
 
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Hello Rich I would also advise you take a trip to Holland & Barrett and get some Neurozan I think that will help you get back to equilibrium as soon as possible. Also whilst your there get some Omega 3, Vitamin C and D if not already in your multivitamins.

I have found visits to the doctor involving drug related issues ni on useless. You could try a trip to the GP but theyll usually prescribe antidepressants or benzos and I dont think either of these will help you. In many ways they will hinder your recovery.

I also dont like the idea of drugs being added to your medical record. I dont wish to sound arrogant but I can almost guarantee the doctor will be of little use to you if any at all. Dont waste your time.

The sweating you describe is more likely anxiety than any drugs still in your system so try not to worrey about that just focus on getting as much sleep as you can. in the end it will pass.

With the exercise schedule already recommended, daily routine, good food and best sleep you can get things should return to normal soon.

The anxiety and paronoia going is a good sign sounds like you are on the road to recovery and just overdid things a bit.

I also wouldnt bother trying to figure out what you took. it might have been MDMA it might not have been unlikely we will ever know. Definitely dont take any further drugs during recovery.

Good luck keep us posted on progress.
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Thank you. Last night I actually felt myself again, from say 8pm to 1am I felt really normal and had my personality back. I got a decent sleep too, woke up at 5:30 but got back to sleep quickly and woke up at 10 feeling pretty refreshed. After breakfast (today) I started to feel unmotivated, uncharismatic, confused and somewhat down. I'm about to go to the gym so that will make me feel better and I'll hopefully feel myself again shortly. I'm eating well, taking vitamins, drinking water, etc. I just can't be arsed with this morning/early afternoon weirdness, it's really starting to piss me off. I think I fully understand that since I did MDMA with heavy alcohol, and it being my first time using the drug, I have depleted my serotonin levels completely. And that throughout the day, after eating/exercising/absorbing nutrients/absorbing sunlight, I start to feel myself again.

The anxiety has gone down a lot, and only comes on in the morning. I've heard serotonin levels can take up to 2 weeks to restore, then again I've heard it can take months. How long do you think it will be before I feel good again?

ALSO, the thing that pisses me off beyond belief is my slightly blurred/hazy vision when my serotonin is low. Uh, this is making me feel so un-fit for socialising and makes me lose concentration so much. Do you think I've done any permanent damage?


EDIT: No night sweats last night
 
The anxiety has gone down a lot, and only comes on in the morning. I've heard serotonin levels can take up to 2 weeks to restore, then again I've heard it can take months. How long do you think it will be before I feel good again?
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based on your description of how things are going it sounds like a slightly extended and severe version of tuesday blues. Maybe another week or so as a guesstimate.

ALSO, the thing that pisses me off beyond belief is my slightly blurred/hazy vision when my serotonin is low. Uh, this is making me feel so un-fit for socialising and makes me lose concentration so much. Do you think I've done any permanent damage?
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No youve only taken one dose of MDMA/Other drug. Very unlikely any permanent damage has been done. try and fight the desire to not socialise and live life as normally as possible. In the next week or so I suspect all the symptoms will be gone.

If you can go and get that Neurozan it will help you. Omega 3 also well advised take it 3 times a day. take the neurozan once a day.

Read about it here:

http://www.vitabiotics.com/neurozan/original_main.aspx?gclid=CIiA7Nqfr7cCFXMRtAoduHAAAQ

Good luck. Keep us posted.
 
Yeah man. I feel ya. I got bad cold sweats last night as well. First time this happened. Not fun
 
Sounds like you didn't weigh your dose, didn't use a test kit, redosed, and took your MDMA with alcohol. All those factors together are an absolute recipe for a bad comedown, so it's not surprising that you don't feel well. Start eating healthy, exercising regularly, and getting plenty of sleep. You should start to feel better in a matter of days.

FRANK doesn't know their socks from their shoelaces IMHO.

It's impossible for any of us to guess what your MDMA may have been cut with. If you plan to take MDMA again, you need to buy and use a test kit with marquis reagent. It could save your life!
 
Just bought some high strength vitamin D and Neurozan Plus (comes with 5-htp), very excited for these to arrive :D Ok, well I was feeling pretty chilled before until I bought a diet coke, shit's loaded with caffeine and it made me slightly anxious/paranoid. Caffeine does that to me anyway, so I was a little stupid for doing that. I felt better after the gym but began to feel hazy and slightly 'slow' again. Just trying to chill out right now before going to bed.

Futura thanks for the help, seriously. Oh and just another question- I'm volunteering for Download festival this year and I'll be stewarding for a week (3x8hr shifts plus meetings). It's my first time doing this and I was really excited for it until recent events unfolded. Should I stay away from alcohol? Download festival is in another two weeks. I also turned down the offer for a pint tonight as well, and instead bought some OJ. I've heard alcohol would be bad at this point.


And last thing, the state of confusion I'm feeling when my serotonin levels are low is very comparable to the feeling you have after a night of fairly heavy drinking- sort of slow, confused and lack of concentration. I'm not sure if anyone has experienced this?

Thanks to all.
 
Just bought some high strength vitamin D and Neurozan Plus (comes with 5-htp), very excited for these to arrive Ok, well I was feeling pretty chilled before until I bought a diet coke, shit's loaded with caffeine and it made me slightly anxious/paranoid. Caffeine does that to me anyway, so I was a little stupid for doing that. I felt better after the gym but began to feel hazy and slightly 'slow' again. Just trying to chill out right now before going to bed.
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Dont forget the Omegas or some type of fish oil ie Krill as well. Caffeine often causes this during issues with comedowns so stay off that for now.

Should I stay away from alcohol? Download festival is in another two weeks. I also turned down the offer for a pint tonight as well, and instead bought some OJ. I've heard alcohol would be bad at this point.
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Alcohol in moderate doses doesnt seem to hinder comedown progress so perhaps try half a pint and see how you get on. Anything that knocks the body wont help so getting totally blathered at the festival might not be to good :D once your surrounded by a few hot chicks in bacinnis easier said than done however.

And last thing, the state of confusion I'm feeling when my serotonin levels are low is very comparable to the feeling you have after a night of fairly heavy drinking- sort of slow, confused and lack of concentration. I'm not sure if anyone has experienced this?
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Yeah pretty much everyone gets some kind of symptom similiar after a night of an MDMA session take those supps, get in some good cardio exercise and shortly that will all clear up. try not to analyise this any further just accept that you have slightly overdone things and need to restore an equilibrium nothing more complex than that. There are a few of us on here with much more long term symptoms but from what your saying I really dont think you have anything like that.
 
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Dont forget the Omegas or some type of fish oil ie Krill as well. Caffeine often causes this during issues with comedowns so stay off that for now.



Alcohol in moderate doses doesnt seem to hinder comedown progress so perhaps try half a pint and see how you get on. Anything that knocks the body wont help so getting totally blathered at the festival might not be to good :D once your surrounded by a few hot chicks in bacinnis easier said than done however.



Yeah pretty much everyone gets some kind of symptom similiar after a night of an MDMA session take those supps, get in some good cardio exercise and shortly that will all clear up. try not to analyise this any further just accept that you have slightly overdone things and need to restore an equilibrium nothing more complex than that. There are a few of us on here with much more long term symptoms but from what your saying I really dont think you have anything like that.
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Ok, so today I feel pretty good, my vision is better and my appetite is back. I don't really feel anxious or depressed, just still a little confused. I also go through stages of feeling literally like myself and then randomly feeling slightly down, but only slightly. It's sort of like very minute bipolar. I feel much more enthusiastic today and I've plucked up the motivation and energy to do chores. I spoke to my best friend before and we've planned to go cycling later. I think I'm getting better but I really don't want to jinx myself! :P

I'll keep you posted, hopefully this will all greatly subside very soon.
 
Night sweats have stopped. Depression seems to have gone too. I still feel slightly anxious sometimes but providing I've eaten and done some exercise this usually doesn't last long at all. Vision has improved DRAMATICALLY. Mind still feels slightly slow and distant but I think some of this might be placebo.

NOW, the only thing that's on my mind at the moment is sleeping- For the past three nights I'll go to bed like usual and wake up 3-4hours later. I'll then get back to sleep again but only for another 3 hours or so. Then when I wake I feel kinda tired, it's not unbearable though. Will this just go over the next week maybe? I read an article that because MDMA/ecstasy resets the body's natural sleep cycle, often people will have interrupted sleep for weeks. Would it be a good idea to buy some sleeping syrup? (idk what it's really called).

Hopefully when my vit D tablets and Neurozan Plus tablets come this will just go.
 
Hello rich glad your recovering all good :)

Would it be a good idea to buy some sleeping syrup? (idk what it's really called).
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Melatonin you have to experiment with the dose greatly as everyone responds to it different. A bit of googling should set you right.

Dont bother with benzos or Z drugs you need a prescription and they will make you sleep but the sleep quality isnt great plus they dont really help recovery.
 
Sorry to revive this thread.

I was just wondering how rich2013 is doing and what was the rest of his recovery like?
 
Look at his last few posts. After about a month he stated that he was feeling fine now but not 100%. Given from what I've read off the few people on here that have gotten through it and stuck around, most people who get over their symptoms generally will not stick around on blue light and instead move on. My best guess is that rich2013 is one of those people. http://www.bluelight.org/vb/search.php?searchid=2902148
 
Just want to say thank you to rich2013 and futura2012, I experienced the exact same thing after only 1 dose mixed with alcool and this conversation really calmed me down and I am feeling a little better after 10 days. I cut the coffee and other stimulant to really kinda start from zero, took vitamins to make for the lost appetite and it slowly comes back to normal. Damn what a scare...
 
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