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TrollFeet

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Hey guys this is my first post here on BL.

I recently bought a Marquis Reagent test from dance safe. After being burned so many times lately I decided it was a must have. I haven't had much experience with using it and the results I see online seem to vary from color to reaction speed/sequence. I used it once and successfully detected amphetamine, but I'm having trouble distinguishing my current results. Here are a few pictures of the results, using only about 2 drops of liquid;

http://s1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa324/TrollFeet322/?action=view&current=test4.jpg

http://s1192.photobucket.com/albums...4/TrollFeet322/?action=view&current=test3.jpg

http://s1192.photobucket.com/albums...4/TrollFeet322/?action=view&current=test2.jpg

http://s1192.photobucket.com/albums...4/TrollFeet322/?action=view&current=test1.jpg

The reaction sequence went something like this; first second a light puff of smoke which instantly turned (What appeared to me in dim light) to be a dark blood red color which after 10 or so seconds shifted to a dark purple. The blood red could have easily been a very dense purple (my eyes aren't what they used to be) but the pictures above don't lie. Pictures were taken roughly 60 seconds after the reaction.

Any info is appreciated thanks!
 
Seems like a positive for mdxx or 6-apb????? I am not the most educated on this but i have tested molly and pills. Your description is very encouraging also.
 
Thanks for the opinion. My gut was telling me MDXX. I suppose it would also help to know that this wasn't a pill it was powder form that had a very crystalline texture with an off-white almost brown color, like a really light brown sugar. Btw its nice to see someone close to me on BL, greetings from Louisville!
 
Yeah good luck with it, lotta crap floats in the midwest. Pill or powder form. Stay testing and staying safe. Bluelighters are from everywhere. It is a small world after all, TrollFeet.
 
Yeah those 2 'brown sugar' E-date results are frightening. It was actually some clumpy brown substance that came up positive for amp the other day, thank god my tester had arrived. This stuff looks much more consistent with the white mdma I've encountered in the past (finely granulated), just slightly off-white. I know it can look a number of ways but from what I understand with real mdma the tannish color is a result of incomplete synthesis and lower purity product, or simply not washing your final product with enough acetone, perhaps one would do this as to not decrease the weight of your final yield.
 
I have read that lower purity is a bit of a misnomer concerning mdma quality. I have had 84% mdma that was a tan chunky rocky/shard texture that would give you an excellent roll. Had other clear small micro shards of excellent quality. It can look alot of different ways.
 
When you are reading the results of these tests, the color you should go by is the immediate color change, rather than one that comes on a bit later. The reagent contains sulfuric acid and a few other things, and there are competing reactions with different rates going on when you do the test. The initial change is the one that was used to make the "answer key" that comes with the kit. The later color changes can be due to a variety of factors and are much less meaningful for telling you what is in your pill or capsule.

The very first picture in your sequence looks the same as tests I have done that turned out to be mdxx (mdma, specifically).

As for the purity and quality thing: 84% for a clandestinely-synthed drug is not a low purity by any means. Especially if you include the fact that most of what is out there being sold is adulterated further after being synthesized. Even if it was 80% to begin with, when it gets cut 50/50 with caffeine of whatever other bullshit, it ends up 40% or lower. But 84% isn't bad at all for getting a good roll on...the bad part is when you get stuck on thinking about what the other 16% is...its not good stuff :(

Just out of professional curiosity, how did you know it was 84%?
 
scureto1 said:
When you are reading the results of these tests, the color you should go by is the immediate color change, rather than one that comes on a bit later. The reagent contains sulfuric acid and a few other things, and there are competing reactions with different rates going on when you do the test. The initial change is the one that was used to make the "answer key" that comes with the kit. The later color changes can be due to a variety of factors and are much less meaningful for telling you what is in your pill or capsule.

The very first picture in your sequence looks the same as tests I have done that turned out to be mdxx (mdma, specifically).

As for the purity and quality thing: 84% for a clandestinely-synthed drug is not a low purity by any means. Especially if you include the fact that most of what is out there being sold is adulterated further after being synthesized. Even if it was 80% to begin with, when it gets cut 50/50 with caffeine of whatever other bullshit, it ends up 40% or lower. But 84% isn't bad at all for getting a good roll on...the bad part is when you get stuck on thinking about what the other 16% is...its not good stuff :(

Just out of professional curiosity, how did you know it was 84%?
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84-85% is the highest percent mdma can be. If it was higher it would turn into a liquid I believe. This isn't 16% cut, its just the best synth you can get. This would be considered 100% pure on the street.
 
neMMMM said:
84-85% is the highest percent mdma can be. If it was higher it would turn into a liquid I believe. This isn't 16% cut, its just the best synth you can get. This would be considered 100% pure on the street.
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I think what you're talking about is the salt, mdma hydrochloride. You are right that mdma, all by itself, would be a liquid. But nobody ever leaves mdma as the freebase. It is pretty much always made into the hydrochloride salt before anyone thinks about selling or taking it. Based on the molecular weights of the HCl and the mdma, it is 84% mdma by mass. But since the mass of a dose is almost always the hcl salt, so if it was pure mdma.hcl with no adulterants or leftover nastiness from the synthesis, it would be 100% pure, on the street or anywhere. The FDA purity requirements for drugs made by the pharmaceutical industry are measured the same way. The stuff used to make the salt does not count as an impurity, since it is expected for it to be there.

I thought he meant he got some powder that was 84% mdma.hcl, measured by GC/MS or something.
 
those results don't look to good if you ask me. with good quality stuff you should get a little fiz even a little smoke and then very black with some purple around the edges of the puddle. if you tilt the plate and let it run down the purple will be more obvious but it will be very very dark purple not like that.
 
Scureto1, My source is really reliable he said it was tested at a center in the Netherlands. Now can I confirm this, no. I am pretty positive it was 84% as claimed cuz it was nice mdma. I am a pro roller and I always use legit gear. I am no chemist, no matter how much GHB I can produce. LOL.
 
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scureto1 said:
When you are reading the results of these tests, the color you should go by is the immediate color change, rather than one that comes on a bit later. The reagent contains sulfuric acid and a few other things, and there are competing reactions with different rates going on when you do the test. The initial change is the one that was used to make the "answer key" that comes with the kit. The later color changes can be due to a variety of factors and are much less meaningful for telling you what is in your pill or capsule.

The very first picture in your sequence looks the same as tests I have done that turned out to be mdxx (mdma, specifically).
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Great reply - thank you :).
 
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