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Brandnewrollee

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Hey all, how's everyone doing today? SWIM is getting 100% pure MDMA. So 84% in total including byproducts and such. They have been looking around the web to see what the dose should be but haven't found anything pertaining to 100% Molly. The male and female aren't going to a rave but just hanging out at home and the beach for a more intimate roll. The male is 6ft 175lbs and the female is 5'2 and 98lbs what would be the ideal dosing for each? Thank you
 
100mg seems to be a good first time dose for good mdma. But I really doubt it's completely pure unless a lab told you otherwise.
 
Thank you for the quick reply. Would that be a dose for the stats of both male and female listed above? SWIM is wanting to get the "it feels amazing to be touched" feeling. Will that do it?
 
yea for your first time that should be good. id keep it 100-120mgs. you guys can redose maybe 60mg if you're not where you want to be. but dont believe that 100% pure bs. you NEED to test your stuff yourself! and that still wont tell you how pure it is. it will only tell you what substances are present.
 
^^ ya I'm going to double test it, safety first. ^ alright thanks for the heads up, won't catch me doing that again ;)

So again on really good MDMA to feel the euphoric, happy, great touching feeling the dose is as follows average male 120mgs. Small female 100mgs
 
Welcome!

I don't know how you know it's exact purity levels without consulting a lab first. If that's simply what your drug dealer told you and you believed him, oh man....turn back now while you can. I highly recommend buying a test kit and testing it yourself to at least be aware of some adulterants and have a general idea of potency and purity, but you nor your dealer will ever know in actual percentage figures without a lab and a degree. If you want to learn anything from this forum (which you clearly do, you signed up just to ask this), take the following advice that nearly every single person is going to give you:

- Buy a test kit, preferably multiple types.
- Do not put that chemical in your body until you test it yourself with the test kit(s) you bought. You could ruin your life, relationship, body, mind, etc..
- Don't get any cute ideas to snort or smoke it. 100mg down the throat should be a good starting place for both of you, perhaps give her a couple less mg and yourself a couple more, +/- 10mg, due to the differences in your body sizes.
- Double check and make sure you ordered that test kit.
- Drink plenty of, but not an excessive amount of water once you do test, confirm and then consume your MDMA. Avoid alcohol but a small amount won't kill ya.
- Be sure to eat well and take vitamins before and after your roll to help prevent any toxicity. Look into 5-htp.
- Have some cannabis on hand for the come down if you're into that.

Have fun and enjoy yourselves! Rolling with a lover is just about the best thing there is :)
 
Brandnewrollee said:
^^ ya I'm going to double test it, safety first. ^ alright thanks for the heads up, won't catch me doing that again ;)

So again on really good MDMA to feel the euphoric, happy, great touching feeling the dose is as follows average male 120mgs. Small female 100mgs
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Sounds fair man! 120mgs might even be a tad intense for a first timer, but you're a bigger guy so you should be ok. Just get ready for a (lovely) kick in the balls.
 
Ya definitely going to test it with multiple tests. I'm still doing my research and I won't do anything till I'm all read up and have my questions answered. Better safe than sorry. Is dosing different between x and MDMA? My dog's playmate usually takes 300mg of x and has had good rolls. So 100mg seems small, but idk that's why I'm asking these probably dumb questions
 
I agree with everything said here

So 84% in total including byproducts and such.
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if your dealers told you this then the bullshits already in the sentence. If there are byproducts then it aint pure LOL. To be honest I have yet to hear anything quoted by a user "my dealer told me XXX" that remotely resembles the truth. its all sales talk often by clueless clowns just middle manning and making a quick $.

Test kits are good but not the bee all and end all.

Test everything first of course but a test kit doesn't tell you the complete picture. Cocktails can be hard to sniff out and some pill makers design pills to test positive despite the arrangement of RCs present.

Personally I would advise taking a lower dose and working up if things prove to be good. Some claim that if you start on a low dose it can be an anti climax. i think this depends on the person. For me personally starting small and working up always worked well. I definitely always got a nice high.

For me now due to LTC issues caused by a drug coctail I cannot take drugs anymore so I am always with the opinion caution is the key. I am also with the opinion test kits are a must but.. not a license to gobble everything if it goes purple and assume pure MDMA as its likely far from it.

Remember all this stuff is made in clandestine LABs. Often by people following recipes, have no clue about chemistry, often laden with impurities, if the pill / powder gives you a buzz then quite often this is enough. The concept of a student type in a lab coat purifying and cleaning the product and knocking out pharma grade MDMA is serious fairy tales.

In all reality the actual purity of the product doesn't really matter as what counts is the number of MDMA molecules hitting your brain. but.. what is the problem is when it comes to your original question of how much do i dose?

this is really why i always suggest start low and work up. You may have weak product you may have strong product none of us know. Set your cut off at 120mG then if it is super strong stuff your keeping the dose realistic.
 
300mg of X??? Did you know X and MDMA are " suppose " to be the same thing. And by 300mg...do you mean the whole weight of the pill? Your scaring me a little with this comment
 
DONT GIVE THE GIRL THE SAME DOSE AS YOU DO!!!!

Over here, harm reduction projects usualy recomend not more than 1,5 mg per kg for males and 1,3 mg per kg for females. That would mean for your girlfriend aprox 60mg.

Its more pleasant to redose then to overdose ........
 
Your girlfriend is tiny. I'd recommend about 80mg for her and 120mg for you. Remember that MDMA can hit girls harder than boys, especially if they're petite. I reckon 80 would be perfect for her.

100% pure MDMA
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Unless you have lab equipment that costs 1000's of £££, you don't know this. Dealers will hype up their stuff with hysteric bullshit. Don't believe the shit they come out with. When we talk about testing it, we mean using a proper Ecstasy test kit (or here for the UK). These tests can't tell you the purity, but they will tell you what drug it is. If it tests cleanly for just MDMA, then you're good to go ahead with your dosing schedule. If it doesn't test for MDMA, then you have to reevaluate your situation.

Welcome to BL.
 
Brandnewrollee said:
Ya definitely going to test it with multiple tests. I'm still doing my research and I won't do anything till I'm all read up and have my questions answered. Better safe than sorry. Is dosing different between x and MDMA? My dog's playmate usually takes 300mg of x and has had good rolls. So 100mg seems small, but idk that's why I'm asking these probably dumb questions
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300mg is way too much when dealing with pure MDMA powder. You may be talking about a fatal or near-fatal overdose.

This woman lost her teenage daughter to an MDMA overdose, approximately 500mg.

Mother of a teenager killed by ecstasy calls for drugs legalisation
 
Thanks for the insight. definitely be careful and test it and keep the girl at a lower dose. One last question in measuring the doses, googled online and says the doses for light-heavy roll, are they talking about 100mg of molly or maybe its 80% molly along with the fillers. Lets be hypothetical here. Say you tested it with your magic machine and knew the exact percentage of the product and lets just say the product is 80% molly and the other 20% is by products and impurities and other chemical jargon, no other drugs just molly. Lets say you want to take 100mg for a good roll. would you then measure out 100mg of the total product OR take into account that you know only 80% is molly so you weigh it out to 126mg to get that 100mg of molly you want?
 
Brandnewrollee said:
Thanks for the insight. definitely be careful and test it and keep the girl at a lower dose. One last question in measuring the doses, googled online and says the doses for light-heavy roll, are they talking about 100mg of molly or maybe its 80% molly along with the fillers. Lets be hypothetical here. Say you tested it with your magic machine and knew the exact percentage of the product and lets just say the product is 80% molly and the other 20% is by products and impurities and other chemical jargon, no other drugs just molly. Lets say you want to take 100mg for a good roll. would you then measure out 100mg of the total product OR take into account that you know only 80% is molly so you weigh it out to 126mg to get that 100mg of molly you want?
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Since there's no way you can determine the purity, just dose as if it's 100% MDMA. That hypothetical situation is completely pointless as you'll never know those values. If you get sold molly which tests for only MDMA and isn't clearly cut with something inactive (it should be more crystally, the powders are more likely to be heavily cut), then you can assume it's pretty much pure MDMA. The byproducts are probably somewhat negligible, maybe a 1-2% loss, so it's not even worth factoring.
 
I did acetone wash for "fairly pure" MDMA crystal. Result -> 25% of the stuff (byproducts) removed. And the resulting MDMA still isn't 100% pure. I seriously doubt that there would be MDMA being sold which has less than 10% of byprodycts. Why would any dealer/manufacturer go trough the extra purifying steps as it means less product to sell?
 
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