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First time LSD?

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Im very interested in doing lsd i have done shrooms once and absolutely loved it and also did lsa which i also was extremely fond of. i was wondering if i was to take a 150-200ug blotter of acid if it would be too much for me to handle, also id like to know if the "mind fuck" is more intense on lsd than shrooms because i was stuck in a really funny mind fuck when i was on shrooms i kept saying nothing mattered and asking about molecules. but yeah anyway starting to get off topic do you think i could handle lsd i can handle my drugs pretty well and ive really never had a bad experience i have a good place to do it at my friends house with 2 of my other friends doing it and possibly the same gate keeper we used for shrooms thanks guys any help will be appreciated.

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Just start with half of such a blotter i.e. 75-100 ug. That should be more than enough for a first time. Maybe having done mushrooms and LSA seeds before will be a big help, maybe not. It probably does help but I mean it may not make a difference about you having to navigate a new psychedelic. There can be significant differences between say mushrooms and LSD for people which may or may not relate to irrational vs. rational thought and a person's ability to deal with that.

You can always take a larger dose of LSD a next time when the first trip tells you you will be alright doing that. But you can't take it back once you've eaten it. So taking a smaller dose the first time is not a sign to yourself or others that you don't have the balls to go for the full dose right away (fuck what other people think anyway, this is about you having positive trips). And since it isn't there is no problem in taking it easy now, and taking it step by step. Eventually you will step into the 150-200 ug dosage range and/or go beyond it. But it's not a race or a competition - high doses are not heroic and low doses are not for losers. Psychedelics are for adults and thinking like an insecure high-schooler has no place with it. No offense I'm talking in general. ;)

The mindfuck for me is stronger on mushrooms but in general I'd say it is just different. Mushrooms are for me more confusing, trancy, dreamy and visionary about it while LSD is more clearheaded about it.
 
i probably should have mentioned i have done a half blotter about 65ugs and i got nothing besides my some vibrant colors
 
OK so maybe go for double that then?

The point is: if you make a jump in dose that is considerable, larger than that - in relative terms.. things become more unpredictable. You are apparently not yet adept at guiding yourself through such a trip, maybe on other psychedelics though. So, thoughts and feelings may get a bit more out of control.

It is not up to us but up to you to decide if you want to take that risk, if you want to be adventurous but irresponsible and risk-taking about it or if you want it to still be fun but more reliable. The gate-keeper which I think we call trip-sitter here does help to secure the trip practically, but may not be able to help you from a psychedelic dealing out a slap of confusion, apparent insanity and despair the likes of which you have never seen before. Then again if it does work out it can be spectacular.
I'd say if this get-together is special to you make a cost-benefit ratio or risk analysis and make up your own mind, but if you plan to do this kind of get-together more often I recommend erring on the side of caution. That way you will ease into it more and are able to learn how to actually work with or through the effects and you could work up to higher doses while still retaining a level of composure.

Most people should expect learning through mistakes and not only successes though. Trust me when I say that it is a miserable shame to make mistakes you cannot really afford.
 
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I have done lsd once and while there were a few bad moments overall it was a positive experience. That was just 1 tab and I thought that was more than enough but it seems it's different for everyone, some people need 2. I would love to try mushies and am trying to find info on what the difference is between that and lsd aside from the deep thinking that lsd gives you.
 
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I have done lsd once and while there were a few bad moments overall it was a positive experience. That was just 1 tab and I thought that was more than enough but it seems it's different for everyone, some people need 2. I would love to try mushies and am trying to find info on what the difference is between that and lsd aside from the deep thinking that lsd gives you.
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I find mushrooms provide more deep thought than LSD, as well as a much greater feeling of "being connected" to everything, especially nature.
There are also differences in the types of visuals.
mushrooms give me very DMT like visuals including how round and fat my hands and arms look, plus how all my arm hairs appear to be lined perfectly up with one another.
As well the fact that everything which is square or rectangular in shape looks MUCH more square.
IDK how to explain but it's like 90 degree angles became even more of right angles, if that makes any sense haha
 
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I find mushrooms provide more deep thought than LSD, as well as a much greater feeling of "being connected" to everything, especially nature.
There are also differences in the types of visuals.
mushrooms give me very DMT like visuals including how round and fat my hands and arms look, plus how all my arm hairs appear to be lined perfectly up with one another.
As well the fact that everything which is square or rectangular in shape looks MUCH more square.
IDK how to explain but it's like 90 degree angles became even more of right angles, if that makes any sense haha
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Really? I never heard anyone tell me that mushies gave more deep thinking than lsd. Makes me want to try it more now!
 
How often people actually get bad experiences with lsd when having proper set and settings? Isnt that pretty rare to have a so called bad trip
 
How well-defined is "proper set and settings" ? The chance of getting a bad trip ranges from 'totally asking for it' with the worst of set and settings to 'increasingly slim' with the very best. If you don't have serious issues and are guided by a professional I'd say there is very little that could go wrong.

There are however possible obstacles that can always arise but also overcome most of the time. It takes character and willpower to go through some things though. If you just man up at that point treasured lessons can be learned. A very possible and almost typical scenario is feeling as if facing death, that is a pretty normal part of ego dissolution or ego death but it can be disguised in several ways. That sort of thing in most all cases passes and usually turns into catharsis though. Your world, your understanding, your sensory processing, they get distorted and shattered and from the ashes you arise new again like a phoenix. This sort of process reflects the natural way of things and can be therapeutic and it can teach valuable philosophical lessons.

I think I'm going off the mark there. Sorry, bit stoned ~_o
 
I'll be taking lsd for the first time soon too but im going to candyflip. I have taken al-lad before but not lsd. But im pretty sure that mdma will eliminate any chance for a bad trip. I loved hippyflip and ive heard that candyflip can be even better. I'm very excited :)
 
This talks about body load but I've found it to be useful more generally regarding lsd trips

Quoted from another (inferior) forum site:

While LSD is generally regarded as having less of a body load than other psychedelics, for some (the flamingo included) there is still sometimes a significant stimulation/bodily tension that can become uncomfortable at times

So how does she deal with it?

The first thing is to recognise the tension/discomfort as being due to the drug that has been taken (which is sometimes easier said than done, LOL!)

The second thing is acting to change the direction, before a little discomfort becomes something more.

For the flamingo, physical activity seems to be the answer: Generally she dances like a loon, howls at the moon, and sees how it goes! But the activity has to be fairly non-specific

Through experimentation, she has found that if a particular area (like her neck) is stiff or sore, then focusing on that area (for example, stretching or massaging) can sometimes focus the discomfort and lead to loops. Not what's needed

If dancing doesn't do the trick, then she employs other simple meaures:

Change the setting:

There's a point in most trips (usually around T8ish), where being indoors simply isn't an option, being in the cool, quiet night and looking up at the stars can be immensely centering, and usually any tension just melts away

Change the music (although don't become fixated on finding something that's "perfect", just something slightly less hectic)

Retreat for a little "flamingo time" (tell any companions that this is the plan, so they don't start fretting or getting worried)

Use scent to change the direction of things: The flamingo has traditionally found Chanel No 5 works a treat

Use texture to distract. Many times the flamingo has gotten lost in a particularly gorgeous and much loved velvet/embroidered eiderdown

If headache is the primary problem, rather than other muscular aches/pains, then the flamingo always takes a couple of paracetamol, to nip things in the bud

PS after reading this I bought a bunch of Chanel No. 5 tea lights ... Scented candles are lovely for tripping...just don't burn the house down!
 
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LSD is worst than your shrooms, here are the some bad effects of LSD.

• Delusions
• Visual hallucinations
• An artificial sense of euphoria or certainty
• Distortion of one’s sense of time and identity
• Impaired depth perception
• Impaired time perception, distorted perception of the size and shape of objects, movements, color, sounds, touch and the user’s own body image
• Severe, terrifying thoughts and feelings
• Fear of losing control
• Panic attacks
• Flashbacks, or a recurrence of the LSD trip, often without warning long after taking LSD
• Severe depression or psychosis
 
factin makes a good point...LSD is not for everybody...sometimes on these drug threads its easy to fantasize and idealize drugs without thinking about the negative aspects that DO exist with every recreational drug. I find that the these above listed negative effects are mostly all true (artificial euphoria?), however with experience they become very manageable. This is why it is important to start low and titrate up to your perfect dose. OP sounds like he does his homework...just remember you are master and commander of your own mind...the decisions you make are yours to decide...just try to educate yourself and make decisions based on your best interest. Personally, I fucking love the stuff...its my favorite drug out of any that Ive ever taken.
 
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yes, of course I know LSD can have many side effects if things go wrong, I was just pointing out that if he's taking his information from that site well, he should change source.

and by the way he said it (IMHO) it sounds like LSD has only negative effects.
also, I've never personally tried psylocibin shrooms but I always read that the trip is more confusing and difficult to manage (but here again it depends on various factors)
 
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LSD is worst than your shrooms, here are the some bad effects of LSD.

• Delusions
• Visual hallucinations
• An artificial sense of euphoria or certainty
• Distortion of one’s sense of time and identity
• Impaired depth perception
• Impaired time perception, distorted perception of the size and shape of objects, movements, color, sounds, touch and the user’s own body image
• Severe, terrifying thoughts and feelings
• Fear of losing control
• Panic attacks
• Flashbacks, or a recurrence of the LSD trip, often without warning long after taking LSD
• Severe depression or psychosis
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Yea these would be great points if they didn't apply to ALL psychedelics.
Literally any hallucinogen in general can cause these effects, even dissociatives and deliriants
 
I would dare to say that in the career of any experienced psychonaut all of those things will happen maybe not severe depression or psychosis...you have to have enough control over your mind to let it pass and move on...just lean into it homie
 
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