First time IVing Opana HCL. Do you think 0.25 is a good start?

[Parabunter]

Typical dosage is about 2.5 to 10mg on the higher side. (insufflated).

Trying to avoid re sticking a bunch. ...usually 2.5mg increments are used. (insufflated) and a total dosage amount is maybe 10 to 15 or maybe 20mg when it's all built up, I think.
( I checked one conversion site, and it said that 1mg dilaudid is about equal to .67 opana IV, and 2mg about equal to 1.33) So, maybe I should be going for something closer to atleast 0.5mg to begin with, as I'm quite used to those dosages in the hospital all day long, each hr. ???
I know there are threads and mega threads, and converters, etc... it just seems to set me at ease having one response specific to what I'm doing. (flatter me?)

Have a great one!


Also, from anyone who has switched to iv oxymorhone in an attempt to save money, but not because it's needed based on tolerance or because you wanted a rush...
were you able to maintain it well, and thus save money, or did your tolerance just rocket from there? I know that many people say that the needle is where they crossed that line so to speak, but I want to know of some other users (pain management mostly) who manage to be atleast a little responsible and made it work for them.


Also, what kind of half life should one expect with iv opana? I hear it would be quicker to ware off? but that out of all of them, opana had the most legs still.

 

[Effect]

It sounds like your typical dosing pattern is to do a series of small doses throughout your session rather than one large dose as most people tend to do.

Based on that information and the fact that your typical intranasal dose is 2.5mg, my opinion is that .25mg would be a safe and appropriate dose for you to get your feet wet and get a feel for what IV oxymorphone has to offer.

Unfortunately, I do not have personal experience with IV oxymorphone and do not know how intense the particular rush can be compared to the short but intense rush hydromorphone provides.

 

[Parabunter]

Thanks for the no BS response, Effect.

 

[Effect]

No problem man, appreciate the gratitude The way I (and most other for that matter) see it is, I'm sure you've heard before, is that you can always take more of the substance. I'm not just saying that in terms of ODing either; Depending on the substance, even before you reach the particular point at which you OD, you can be unfortunate enough to get uncomfortably high and wish you ended up dosing far less than you did.

I'm not really sure how much experience you have with IV opiate use in general and the best advice I could you is definitely to start low and, like I said, get a feel for what the lower doses have to offer.

At that point, after a dose or two of .25-.50mg, if you liked the experience and feel comfortable enough with how much CNS depression (particularly respiratory, I CANT stress this enough) is present, if it were me, I would go for one more 2nd/3rd dose, but this time go for a solid rush and high that I could chill on for the rest of the session. Keep in mind that's just how I'd approach the situation and I know it sort of deviates from how you usually like to dose.

As far as your questions regarding saving money, if you are considering switching your ROA to IV solely for this reason then I suggest you reconsider as many people will tell you that after a short period of time (few days to a few weeks depending on frequency of use) your tolerance will almost definitely catch up to where it was before you made the switch and you will have essentially just exposed yourself to the additional risks associated with intravenous drug abuse for no reason.

Hopefully you don't mind the lengthy reply; those damn amphetamines man... Haha

 

[Parabunter]

...another good answer...thanks again.

I hate this tolerance crap. what a sick joke it is!

 

[luckyshot04]

Opana is the best opiate IMO. I always sniff mine, the new generics made that possible. I laid off when tamper proof ER's made their way out.

I can't help you on the IV part of things, just a word of friendly advice. That 2.5 to 10mg dosage insufflated is not bad (At my worst, I was doing 80mg's/day when I could afford it), but as you know, I would say your tolerance would get pretty high from IV. I can just say the WD's from these little bitches are fucking awful. I know you use them and I don't want you to think I'm speaking to you as if you don't do them. It's the people that just think they can handle it the first time they try it that fuck it up. I know if I had starting IV'ing Opana, I would probably be 6 feet under.

But on that conversion, did you mean that 1 mg Opana would be equal to .67 of hydromorphone on the IV scale? I'm assuming it's just backwards, since oxymorphone is above hydromorphone.

I hope if you choose IV, you can do it responsibly with Opana. I wish I never did one because it led me down a deep dark road. Tolerance is a bitch and the risk of OD is great.

 

[Parabunter]

I thought I was going to save myself a ton of money. I was doing the math. It's just a better use to IV because you get more bioavailiabilty, I thought. And I was warned. What happened. While, with in about one week I had gone to my first 10mg opana in one shot. And that's a lot apparently, relative to where I was at . I began slow and worked my way up for sure...but apparently the converters don't lie. So what happened? I ran out early, went into bad sickness, and even though I had Beup at the ready, it was a shocking amount to control it. It was then that I got perspective. about 32 mg the first day of beup. Before this, I was usually good at about no more then 4mg the first day, and maintenance of maybe 1-2mg per day after that. I actually almost ran out of beup.

So, what I found was that my tolerance was quickly about X3-4. Then I redid the math. Now , in order to keep at it, it's not an option weather to shoot or insufflate. I simply would not have enough to last me the month via the later method. So I am trying to taper down just a bit and back off. The oxycodone confirmed my suspsicion when 30mg did not set me straight! I am a person who has got by on 5mg bumbs (all thought frequent, mind you)...but still 5mg, for aobut 2 years now.

Opana is very strong. very , very, strong. And I can't really say that I advice IV for anyone. The process of poking, itself seems to be a bit addicting(how stupid is that?) And I guess I would say that the part I don't like about all of it... is that it takes my mind away from a better focus. (actually I *hate* the damn tolerance!) For those of you attempting a career, or maybe you are passionate about something, then you might know it's nice to have a little bit of a "feel good, reward" to go along with your hard work.... but when the focus of the morning is on prepping a shot, rather than your said career, then something gets a little backwards inside. What's really good fades a bit. And basically it can just be a waste of time. Not just time, but attention, focus, clarity. I realized this on my week of beup. Problems which I'd been trying to set straight for months now, while constantly, although slightly increasing my tolerance(until recently), had evaded me. But they became clear again during that week. All I can say is that if you are someone who uses opiates as a self medication of sorts for pain, or even emotional or perhaps some congnitive trouble you are having... that those problems simply seem to wait , right there where you left them. And you might even welcome them back, eventually. Thank God for Beup. I really think it's good for those people who need some sort of medicating, but do not wish to be too clouded.

Anyway, my last bit, is a question. It's about the wheel filter. I've actually not yet used one. It's been about 2-3 weeks and I've meant to . I'll send for it today. Can you tell me if there are any health concerns I should be worried about from the past 2-3 weeks? My guess is that people push this envelope all the time, but shouldn't . Can you tell me a cheap place to get them? I was seeing adds for something like $2.00 per use?! That's a lot of money if used several times per day! are they re-usable?