Previous opioid use: Codeine, propoxyphene, and hydrocodone, both alone and in combinations of all 3 that contained up to the equivalent of ~150mg codeine + sometimes pseudoephedrine and amantadine(which had been in the same bag and I assumed it was an opioid).
Only 2 low-dose opioid uses in the past 6 years prior to the below.
I was given 2 2mg injections of morphine around 12PM and 5AM. I had not slept the previous night, and did not sleep that night.
The immediate effects were only a beginning of sedation/euphoria and extremely mild warmth and twitching in my abdomen. I assume this sensation would be much greater with a normal or high dose of morphine.
The euphoria peaked at about 30 minutes and began fading around 3 hours after the injection. Overall it was similar to 20-25mg oral codeine. (However I think I am one of the people who have extra copies of the enzyme that demethylates codeine; I find 30mg codeine significantly stronger than 5mg oxycodone. I definitely found codeine and morphine to give the qualitatively best euphoria, followed by oxycodone, propoxyphene and lastly hydrocodone.
It seemed like it felt maybe a little bit "heavier" than codeine, not necessarily in a good way. This could be for 2 reasons:
1) I was not in stable condition and was on oxygen, and the morphine caused respiratory depression, making me feel (very slightly) as if I was drowning
2) Codeine has active metabolites that morphine AFAIK doesn't have (hydromorphone and codeine-6-glucuronide)
I was psychotic at the time, and morphine had the effect of changing my hallucinations to solely brief, sporadic (every 10-20 seconds) and extremely repetitive voices that arose out of actual mechanical sounds. They did get annoying after a while and I also began to feel like my subconscious mind was being reprogrammed by them.
About 8 hours after the last injection I began to feel extremely agitated. This was an aftereffect that oral opioids never had in the least for me. I also experienced a similar but milder agitation 4 hours after absorbing in my mouth (for 40 minutes) 5mg of oxycodone. Based on these two experiences I want to avoid non-oral and non-transdermal use of opioids in the future.
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I liked morphine/codeine better than oxycodone and actually associated this partly with a "morbid" feeling they have but which oxycodone lacks. I found oxycodone sort of bland or utopian in comparison. This may be because morphine (according to a med. textbook) has slight kappa agonist activity and oxycodone does not. A way to test this hypothesis would be to try buprenorphine (which is a kappa antagonist) and on another occasion, morphine along with a kappa antagonist, and see how these compare. I hope I don't actually enjoy mild kappa agonism, because I'd like to be able to feel better from taking kappa antagonists in the future.
I thought that maybe others had a morbid component to their opioid euphoria at times but from the responses to a thread I created this does not appear to be the case.
I imagine that oxymorphone might have the fullness of morphine plus a stimulation similar to but even greater than oxycodone. I'm not totally sure I would prefer this as I like the calm of morphine/codeine a lot, but the combination of morphine and oxymorphone would be great.
Amphetamine/Barbiturate and Amphetamine/Barbiturate/Opiate combo pills were available by prescription until (I think) the 1970s. Someone I know was once prescribed the ABC(with codeine) and said it caused extreme and natural-feeling euphoria. I'm sort of curious what Amphetamine/Barbiturate/Morphine/Oxymorphone would feel like (and in addition you could add 25mcg LSD if you wanted), although I imagine it could be very addictive. I also wouldn't want to have barbiturates around because sedatives tend to make me feel like impulsively taking more of them at times and barbiturates were supposedly notorious for this (as well as sometimes fatalities).
I also think morphine + Sonata would feel very good if you wanted to be heavily sedated. Sonata strikes me as the best mixer because it is very bland and so would amplify the morphine without adding a different feeling on top like Ambien would. Sonata makes my thoughts a little weird and unpleasant sometimes though, and this might be even more noticeable with the combination.
Has anyone tried any of the above combos?
methodcode_IV
Only 2 low-dose opioid uses in the past 6 years prior to the below.
I was given 2 2mg injections of morphine around 12PM and 5AM. I had not slept the previous night, and did not sleep that night.
The immediate effects were only a beginning of sedation/euphoria and extremely mild warmth and twitching in my abdomen. I assume this sensation would be much greater with a normal or high dose of morphine.
The euphoria peaked at about 30 minutes and began fading around 3 hours after the injection. Overall it was similar to 20-25mg oral codeine. (However I think I am one of the people who have extra copies of the enzyme that demethylates codeine; I find 30mg codeine significantly stronger than 5mg oxycodone. I definitely found codeine and morphine to give the qualitatively best euphoria, followed by oxycodone, propoxyphene and lastly hydrocodone.
It seemed like it felt maybe a little bit "heavier" than codeine, not necessarily in a good way. This could be for 2 reasons:
1) I was not in stable condition and was on oxygen, and the morphine caused respiratory depression, making me feel (very slightly) as if I was drowning
2) Codeine has active metabolites that morphine AFAIK doesn't have (hydromorphone and codeine-6-glucuronide)
I was psychotic at the time, and morphine had the effect of changing my hallucinations to solely brief, sporadic (every 10-20 seconds) and extremely repetitive voices that arose out of actual mechanical sounds. They did get annoying after a while and I also began to feel like my subconscious mind was being reprogrammed by them.
About 8 hours after the last injection I began to feel extremely agitated. This was an aftereffect that oral opioids never had in the least for me. I also experienced a similar but milder agitation 4 hours after absorbing in my mouth (for 40 minutes) 5mg of oxycodone. Based on these two experiences I want to avoid non-oral and non-transdermal use of opioids in the future.
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I liked morphine/codeine better than oxycodone and actually associated this partly with a "morbid" feeling they have but which oxycodone lacks. I found oxycodone sort of bland or utopian in comparison. This may be because morphine (according to a med. textbook) has slight kappa agonist activity and oxycodone does not. A way to test this hypothesis would be to try buprenorphine (which is a kappa antagonist) and on another occasion, morphine along with a kappa antagonist, and see how these compare. I hope I don't actually enjoy mild kappa agonism, because I'd like to be able to feel better from taking kappa antagonists in the future.
I thought that maybe others had a morbid component to their opioid euphoria at times but from the responses to a thread I created this does not appear to be the case.
I imagine that oxymorphone might have the fullness of morphine plus a stimulation similar to but even greater than oxycodone. I'm not totally sure I would prefer this as I like the calm of morphine/codeine a lot, but the combination of morphine and oxymorphone would be great.
Amphetamine/Barbiturate and Amphetamine/Barbiturate/Opiate combo pills were available by prescription until (I think) the 1970s. Someone I know was once prescribed the ABC(with codeine) and said it caused extreme and natural-feeling euphoria. I'm sort of curious what Amphetamine/Barbiturate/Morphine/Oxymorphone would feel like (and in addition you could add 25mcg LSD if you wanted), although I imagine it could be very addictive. I also wouldn't want to have barbiturates around because sedatives tend to make me feel like impulsively taking more of them at times and barbiturates were supposedly notorious for this (as well as sometimes fatalities).
I also think morphine + Sonata would feel very good if you wanted to be heavily sedated. Sonata strikes me as the best mixer because it is very bland and so would amplify the morphine without adding a different feeling on top like Ambien would. Sonata makes my thoughts a little weird and unpleasant sometimes though, and this might be even more noticeable with the combination.
Has anyone tried any of the above combos?
methodcode_IV
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