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First time DMT - three attempts, no breakthrough

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Took changa last night for the first time with a friend; he tried it twice and I made three efforts to break through... but I pussied out at the last moment each time.

The moment the effects of the first toke hit, and I'm partway through the second, my ego slams on the breaks. NOOOPE, NO NO NO WE'RE NOT GOING THERE, THAT LOOKS FUCKING SCARY. I seem to lack the willpower to keep inhaling when my sense of self starts melting through my skin.

On the first attempt, not much happened, but it generally felt like being on about six hits of ayahuasca for six minutes. Very intense. Probably helped that this was my first psychedelic experience in almost a year.

On the second attempt I managed to go a bit further and deeper. I dropped back spread-eagled onto the carpet and for a moment I seemed to merge with an infinite energy grid. I was taking in unbelievable amounts of information through my every sense, it made a couple of minutes stretch out like hours. I came back down surprisingly quickly this time. It was so nerve-racking it felt like the universe had just given me a firm spanking and told me not to do it again.

I did anyway, of course. I gave the third attempt another few hours, this time taking the hits alone in my bedroom, with a pleasant storm pouring against my window (water apparently soothes a DMT trip). This time I ALMOST broke through. I could tell I was right on the verge. And I went into this knowing anything could happen and not to expect one thing or another - but holy SHIT... I didn't realise my own BED COVERS COULD TURN INTO FUCKING SNAKES. Everything in the room came to life. The bong, still fuming, turned into a genie lamp. I tuned in to a higher frequency of thought and saw for a fact that consciousness is totally unlimited; that the human body and mind is just a piddling vessel, not something to be overly concerned about or wrapped up in. The overriding message seemed to be: "Get over your stupid problems and start using the incredible gifts I have blessed you with. Become a receptor for light and love. Transmute it through everything you do." It was quite harsh but kind of in a joking, understanding way. The feeling of being on the edge of eternity was very jittery and I was glad when it was over, but at the same time, awestruck by what I'd just experienced.

I still haven't had a full-blown 'breakthrough' where reality is switched out for something else though. How in the HELL do you push through that barrier? It's fucking scary!
 
I've had the 'human body is a vessel, use it wisely and transmute energy' experience on mushrooms before. Changed my life.

Breakthroughs can be scary and are totally variable. Sometimes you break though, sometimes you don't. The doors of perception have their own agenda it would seem.

I find it easier to break through with harmala.
 
The problem I see with the voting on legalizing psychedelic drugs is that people see one person with a bad trip and bad effects from these drugs and it changes their perception of the drug completely. Meanwhile with weed, they don't blame the weed, because there's so many people who smoke weed with no side-effects.

One person has a bad trip and it brings out latent schizophrenia and 100 people who see it are influenced to think psychedelics are the worst thing in the world.

I can say this because LSD brought out latent schizophrenia in me. But it made me happier at the same time. I work as a farmer now and wouldn't trade my life for anything I could have previously accomplished. I post here because I have an obsession with psychedelics even though I don't do them anymore. They were the best times of my life. But I bet there's 100 people out there who thinks drugs "ruined my life". That's the problem I see with hallucinogens. .....


But in reality, not a problem at all...I feel I am making a very positive contribution to society. Just because I'm not an economist or an accountant doesn't mean my life is worthless. Oh well. Sorry I'm a little drunk but you all know what I'm saying. Peace.
 
Hah, no problem. I'm glad you were able to see the route that psychedelic drugs helped set you on in a positive light. Everything in life comes down to interpretation.

The thing I really wanted to express with this thread was amazement at the way DMT actually functions. Until I sort-of went there I had no idea just how totally REAL the things I've read in trip reports become to people. It's realer than real. Four-dimensional. The third eye is wide open, and it paints the world as a myriad of concepts with masterful alacrity. I expected it would take me 'beyond,' to the land between lands where I'd meet aether beings or whatever; instead, it turned my bedroom into a Tim Burton carnival of terrors. I imagine if I'd broken through then, the scenery would've simply swallowed me and seemed quite demonic and crazy for a few minutes, before I came back down to earth. Not what I expected from DMT at all... and, WOW. I'm still reeling from what happened, and it wasn't even a breakthrough dose.
 
just try to get it all in 1 or 2 hits. anxiety gets the best of me about half of the time when i space it into 3 hits.
just have it weighed out for exactly what you wanna smoke. and try to take one massive hit.
no anxiety when you dont feel it till you breath it all out. for me at least.
 
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dan k said:
just try to get it all in 1 or 2 hits. anxiety gets the best of me about half of the time when i space it into 3 hits.
just have it weighed out for exactly what you wanna smoke. and try to take one massive hit.
no anxiety when you dont feel it till you breath it all out. for me at least.
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Good advice. I find the best way to guarantee a breakthrough is take a sizeable dose in two hits with a bong. Light it and keep pulling until you've vaped all the dmt and it's all in the chamber, exhale that hit while you cover the bong, and then go back and clear it. But the bong down and hold that as long as you can. No time to think until it's too late and you're catapaulted into space 8o
 
So the way to get around the anxiety IS to just bypass it? Got it, I have a bigger bong which I'll load up for the next round.

Which, by the way, will ideally be in about a week's time, on the tail end of a med-strong acid trip - again, first in a year. :)

I have 55mg of DMT and I'm planning to get myself into the perfect headspace to dive the whole way in.

I'm curious though because just yesterday, I saw an interview with Allyson Grey, wherein she claimed to never feel any sort of anxiety as she comes up on any substance, even DMT.

Upon reflection, I realised the message I was getting from DMT this time was: "Come back when your intentions are pure. You're smarter than this, quit fucking around. Your ego is screwing things up too much." (It really was that crass - like a mirror of myself in my current mindset, actually.)

Worth adding: despite that we both felt a certain sinister vibe the more we dove back in, both my friend and I agreed we felt an immense sense of warmth and compassion from the trips we had, and that there seemed to be an overriding message for both of us that things were going just the way they should, everything is in its right place, and even in this temporary frame, the tides are starting to turn to our favour. It was beautiful and it's left me feeling very tranquil, relaxed and playful ever since.
 
Hello. When I had my breakthrough experience it didn't come from desiring it or it being expected at all! So I don't know the surefire way to get there.
BUT the time I did break through was when I switched from using DMT in a pipe, to using it in a bong. But I didn't use water in the bong, it was a completely dry, acrylic bong, those cheap long ones.
I only used about 40 mg with a tiny tiny bed of cannabis underneath(I don't like mixing it with DMT).

Also what helped me get there I think is my friends advice, and that is to 'Just smile'. Just let it happen and pay attention. Don't think 'Will this happen, will I see x/y or z?'
I've written about it here http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/550455-DMT-Semi-experienced-First-time-to-last-3-experiences
Though I should edit it as I remember more now.

Having a pure intention is really important, but be careful not to have so much intention that you feel like you're making mistakes when a trip doesn't go exactly as expected. You are shown whatever is necessary at that time.
 
I had the same problem, but once I started to over-load the pipe to be sure I had enough in there and went for 3, massive, vaporized hits, I went off the reservation. It was scary a hell initially, but I have learned to go with it and it's less anxiety provoking at this point. It does take balls to take the necesssary pulls, but it's life changing when you do!
 
I have never broken through on DMT before either, despite trying a good couple of dozen times. Every time I start to go there, I come upon a wall of noise consisting of voices speaking in glossolalic fashion, and it overloads my mind and prevents me from going further. It's very strange, and also frustrating, because I would really like to experience it.
 
Bong is the way to go smoking tryptamines - just put a good deep bed of ash in - you can use water though I only use a little - a lot of people have trouble breaking through - I just took a single hit first time and was there - totally amazing! It was quality freebase crystal though; went in lovely and quick > no time for fear - there are a lot of forms of DMT I guess - last time I had a hit of some dark sticky resin done on foil (not ideal) - still easy stuff to smoke but I used to have the biggest stoner lungs anyhow - it was still lovely but not a breakthough; I think it would be harder with this stuff - it wasn't ideal for a bong so foiled it - if there was more on the foil maybe I would have got there though. Don't know. Man everytime someone mentions DMT I want to do some!
 
IMO it's much easier to breakthrough when you feel you are being welcomed. Still scary though.
 
Have a friend administer it for you (it'll come in handy when you drop the pipe), and make sure he keeps insisting you take another hit, despite your objections.

With DMT, you always gotta take exactly as many hits as you can, and then one or two more.

EDIT: If you've got a limited amount and want to play it safe, especially if you've not got the vaping technique completely down - and after 3 attempts, you won't - either take harmala alkaloids prior to the DMT, or for even more fun, psychedelic tryptamines. DMT right when your acid or shrooms are peaking is godlike... And you'll rarely need a second hit.
 
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