Cocaine First time coke use - does it affect guys and girls differently?

[casual_user]

I know a lot of guys say that their first time doing coke was a disappointing experience. Is this true for girls as well? Or do girls get a decent high even during their first time?

Or maybe I've just read too many of PhreeX's posts. :D

 

[love2party]

I don't see why it would affect girls and guys differently, coke is overrated. I don't see how people would be disappointed their first time, it should be the best time because of low tolerance. Coke is not a mind blowing high.

 

[Nib]

I don't see why it would affect girls and guys differently, coke is overrated. I don't see how people would be disappointed their first time, it should be the best time because of low tolerance. Coke is not a mind blowing high.

Good coke is.

 

[love2party]

Good coke is.

Why would you assume I have never had good coke? Even good coke is not mind blowing. I would rate the methamphetamine high greater than coke. Though I have only snorted coke, I have never injected coke or smoked crack, ROA might play a role. I would not spend money on coke.

 

[I_need_dat]

I'm a woman and my first time was lackluster

 

[sjsheather]

In my experience, females seem to be much more subject to cocaine addiction than guys. It seems to give women a feeling of self-power that they don't experience otherwise. Much more than most guys seem to get from it. Which is too bad, because a cocaine addiction is awful. Just my observations.

 

[woamotive]

Honestly, I don't think gender has anything to do with this. You'll find males and females from both sides of the spectrum. What IS the variable here is the GRADE of the coke. Also, the setting, the hype (or lack of), etc. These things matter.

 

[Muddle]

In a study done at a local college it showed that cocaine increased male rats sexual urges.
And I am unaware of what it did to the female rats.

 

[Le Junk]

Take this advice as the bible for anything cocaine related. I've been using cocaine since it was a fun and pleasurable drug in the mid-80's. I will 100% agree with Freud when I say that cocaine effects everyone the exact same way. Everyone either feels great or everyone feels like shit. There is no in between. Why? Read the answers down below.

First off, good coke is literally non-existant today. Over 90% of the cocaine entering the U.S. today is adulterated with levamisole. Levamisole will completely overide the cocaine high and leave you with nothing but misery including but not limited to; an inability to carry coversation, uncomfortable, nausea, ampyness, introverted, non-sexual, will crave to do more even though you feel like crap and will feel absolutely nothing positive at all. You will wish you never did that first line. If you don't feel better than you ever imagined you could, then your cocaine is adulterated with levamisole.

However, if and when you ever get ahold of non-levamisole cocaine, you will feel the most unadulterated euphoria, a sense of being on top of the world, can do absolutely no wrong, will want to talk with anyone about anything for hours, will have an animalistic sexual desire, will have no ampyness or craving to continually do more and will feel no negative effects whatsover.

Chances of ever getting non-levamisole cocaine are slim to none nowdays. There is no such thing as "pretty good", coke. It's either unbelievably outstanding (non-levamisole cocaine) or crap (levamisole adulterated cocaine). Again, there is no in between.

Le Junk.....at your service!

 

[jamesBrown]

I think its farfetched and a huge assumption to make the statement that you can ONLY get AMAZINGLY pure cocaine or crap cocaine nowadays. Who knows what is available to who. there is no way of telling.

That statement may be a bit more usefull as a general term, but it definitely does not apply in every given situation. There is PLENTY of coke out there ranging in purity level all over the spectrum. This is proven also, by reports from confiscations of cocaine where the purity level was measured. There has been coke confiscated in the past 10 years even ranging from 2% purity, all the way to 99% pure. This is proven fact...I will try and find the link to the source of the info and will post it as soon as I get the time.

In conclusion, it is naieve to assume there are only 2 basic purity levels for cocaine available to the public today.

 

[Le Junk]

I think its farfetched and a huge assumption to make the statement that you can ONLY get AMAZINGLY pure cocaine or crap cocaine nowadays. Who knows what is available to who. there is no way of telling.

That statement may be a bit more usefull as a general term, but it definitely does not apply in every given situation. There is PLENTY of coke out there ranging in purity level all over the spectrum. This is proven also, by reports from confiscations of cocaine where the purity level was measured. There has been coke confiscated in the past 10 years even ranging from 2% purity, all the way to 99% pure. This is proven fact...I will try and find the link to the source of the info and will post it as soon as I get the time.

In conclusion, it is naieve to assume there are only 2 basic purity levels for cocaine available to the public today.

First off, I didn't say there were only 2 purity levels. That was you. What I said was that there is either cocaine that's been adulterated with levamisole or cocaine that hasn't been adulterated with levamisole. 90% of all cocaine samples entering the US today contain levamisole. This is according to DEA microgram reports.

Once the cocaine has been adulterated with levamisole, the user will no longer feel the true and subtle effects of the cocaine, only the hard hitting egde and confusion of the levamisole. This is why I said there's either outstandingly great coke (non-levamisole adulterated) or crap (levamisole adulterated). Again, there is no in between with regards to the buzz. Great or awful.

Le Junk.....at your service

P.S. jamesBrown, If you knew more about me on this forum, "naive" would be the last word you'd use to describe me with regards to cocaine.

 

[sir_thizzalot]

Take this advice as the bible for anything cocaine related. I've been using cocaine since it was a fun and pleasurable drug in the mid-80's. I will 100% agree with Freud when I say that cocaine effects everyone the exact same way. Everyone either feels great or everyone feels like shit. There is no in between. Why? Read the answers down below.

First off, good coke is literally non-existant today. Over 90% of the cocaine entering the U.S. today is adulterated with levamisole. Levamisole will completely overide the cocaine high and leave you with nothing but misery including but not limited to; an inability to carry coversation, uncomfortable, nausea, ampyness, introverted, non-sexual, will crave to do more even though you feel like crap and will feel absolutely nothing positive at all. You will wish you never did that first line. If you don't feel better than you ever imagined you could, then your cocaine is adulterated with levamisole.

However, if and when you ever get ahold of non-levamisole cocaine, you will feel the most unadulterated euphoria, a sense of being on top of the world, can do absolutely no wrong, will want to talk with anyone about anything for hours, will have an animalistic sexual desire, will have no ampyness or craving to continually do more and will feel no negative effects whatsover.

Chances of ever getting non-levamisole cocaine are slim to none nowdays. There is no such thing as "pretty good", coke. It's either unbelievably outstanding (non-levamisole cocaine) or crap (levamisole adulterated cocaine). Again, there is no in between.

Le Junk.....at your service!

I completely disagree. Especially about the :
"Levamisole will completely overide the cocaine high and leave you with nothing but misery including but not limited to; an inability to carry coversation, uncomfortable, nausea, ampyness, introverted, non-sexual, will crave to do more even though you feel like crap and will feel absolutely nothing positive at all." . This is bull shit, you sound as bad as the people who say mdma puts holes in your brain. Also you make it sound like clean coke doesn't leave people craving more once the high is gone.....seriously?? Some people will crave anything they enjoyed, why would clean coke(a pretty good drug) be any different?
Doing one line of any coke I've done doesn't give me a bad crash. Slightly less energy than I had before but it's not depressing, and I'm sure I've had levamisole plenty of times. And I crash bad from amphetamines and methylphenidate, so it's not like I'm one of those lucky people who doesn't seem to crash hard ever.

Maby it all sucks for you now because you've been doing it since the 80s and it doesn't work like it used to for you. I bet Sweet P would say that meth doesn't effect him in the way it used to and I'm pretty sure his meth is exactly the same now as it was when it was enjoyable for him.

I like coke and have done a decent bit, but I don't think it's AMAZING. I usually do it sublingually now(haven't done any in a while), I think that works better than snorting it. I would call methamphetamine an "amazing" high(unless you have a big MDMA tolerance(and I'm sure amphetamine tolerance, but I haven't used it when I have had much of an amphetamine tolerance) when you use it).

And as for the crash from doing a lot of coke throughout a night.... 2ish grams tyrosine(get acetyl tyrosine if you can), 1 gram of magnesium, and less importantly some omega 3 and daily vitamins, and FOOD.

 

[jamesBrown]

I apologize for calling you naieve if I did. but my whole point was that there isnt only "outstanding coke"...or "crap"....I know this from personal experience.

Not trying to argue, just prove a point.

But im tired of trying to convince people of something that they have allready convinced themselves is not true.

Good luck to you

 

[Le Junk]

I completely disagree. Especially about the :
"Levamisole will completely overide the cocaine high and leave you with nothing but misery including but not limited to; an inability to carry coversation, uncomfortable, nausea, ampyness, introverted, non-sexual, will crave to do more even though you feel like crap and will feel absolutely nothing positive at all." . This is bull shit, you sound as bad as the people who say mdma puts holes in your brain. Also you make it sound like clean coke doesn't leave people craving more once the high is gone.....seriously?? Some people will crave anything they enjoyed, why would clean coke(a pretty good drug) be any different?
Doing one line of any coke I've done doesn't give me a bad crash. Slightly less energy than I had before but it's not depressing, and I'm sure I've had levamisole plenty of times. And I crash bad from amphetamines and methylphenidate, so it's not like I'm one of those lucky people who doesn't seem to crash hard ever.

Maby it all sucks for you now because you've been doing it since the 80s and it doesn't work like it used to for you. I bet Sweet P would say that meth doesn't effect him in the way it used to and I'm pretty sure his meth is exactly the same now as it was when it was enjoyable for him.

I like coke and have done a decent bit, but I don't think it's AMAZING. I usually do it sublingually now(haven't done any in a while), I think that works better than snorting it. I would call methamphetamine an "amazing" high(unless you have a big MDMA tolerance(and I'm sure amphetamine tolerance, but I haven't used it when I have had much of an amphetamine tolerance) when you use it).

And as for the crash from doing a lot of coke throughout a night.... 2ish grams tyrosine(get acetyl tyrosine if you can), 1 gram of magnesium, and less importantly some omega 3 and daily vitamins, and FOOD.

Your funny. 8) But here's the deal. It's not me doing it for all these years that's the problem, it's todays levamisole adulterated coke that is. How can I say that? Because, in addition to purifying my own coke at home, twice a year I travel to a little place in Costa Rica just to do the real deal. And you know what? It's exactly the same buzz as it was in the 1980's.

You say that the meth high is better than non-levamisole adulterated cocaine? Your nuts! Meth sucks. Been there, done that many times, no comparison. My guess is that you've never had the pleasure of doing coke that wasn't adulterated with levamisole. Unknowingly, of course.

Until you've tried non-levamisole coke, we're just going to have to agree to disagree. But you will definitely know exactly when and if it that ever happens though.

Le Junk

 

[casual_user]

Le Junk, thanks for the info on levamisole. For the doubters, check out this January 2010 article: http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1955112,00.html

"It is now found in 70% of all cocaine seized in the U.S., up from 30% in 2008."

That kind of rapid change in 1-2 years and the fact that it is widespread across coke seized all over the US (and even Europe) indicates that the levamisole is being added early in the supply chain.

I guess the obvious question is can you get the levamisole out using the typical freebase extraction methods?

 

[Jabberwocky]

faq on levamisole - ATTN: Coke users - Levamisole FAQ

 

[casual_user]

In my experience, females seem to be much more subject to cocaine addiction than guys. It seems to give women a feeling of self-power that they don't experience otherwise. Much more than most guys seem to get from it. Which is too bad, because a cocaine addiction is awful. Just my observations.

Interesting observation. Makes sense because guys tend to have more natural self-power, so the boost from coke is probably not as great for men as for women on average.

 

[casual_user]

faq on levamisole - ATTN: Coke users - Levamisole FAQ

Wow. From being found in 2% of seized coke in 2005 to 73% in 2009. That is a massive increase.

 

[sir_thizzalot]

Your funny. 8) But here's the deal. It's not me doing it for all these years that's the problem, it's todays levamisole adulterated coke that is. How can I say that? Because, in addition to purifying my own coke at home, twice a year I travel to a little place in Costa Rica just to do the real deal. And you know what? It's exactly the same buzz as it was in the 1980's.

You say that the meth high is better than non-levamisole adulterated cocaine? Your nuts! Meth sucks. Been there, done that many times, no comparison. My guess is that you've never had the pleasure of doing coke that wasn't adulterated with levamisole. Unknowingly, of course.

Until you've tried non-levamisole coke, we're just going to have to agree to disagree. But you will definitely know exactly when and if it that ever happens though.

Le Junk

I'm sure there's some chance I've never had coke without levamisole, but I did a good amount of good coke the first couple months of this year, from different sources, in Seattle, and: http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=1878 no levamisole, in Feb, so it's not like there was no clean coke in WA at the time. But I guess you're right about me not knowing for sure.

And I didn't like meth that much when I had an MDMA tolerance, but I love it when I don't. I rarely do it though. I really like coke but not to the extent some people seem to talk about loving it, and I think it's too overpriced to do too often

 

[Le Junk]

Speaking of MDMA, here's a perfect comparison for you. The high from cocaine that hasn't been adulterated with any active cuts is nearly identical in every respect to the "plateau" stage of pure MDMA. The "plateau" stage of MDMA is the 3-4 hour stage that comes right after the initial "peak" when everything slows down and comes back into focus. The sense of well being, open conversation, clarity, sense of impowerment, increased libido, etc. Back in the 80's when we had a choice of doing either legal ecstasy or unadulterated cocaine, everyone usually chose cocaine.

Keep in mind that the buzz from today's cocaine is as far from an unadulterated cocaine buzz as oil is to water. There isn't even the smallest comparison. Honestly, sobriety is closer to a real cocaine buzz than the buzz from the stuff they're selling as cocaine today. It's like paying for a Ferrari and being sold a Yugo instead. To anyone considering trying cocaine for the first time.....DON'T!

Le Junk