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Heroin First time being dope sick?!?!?!

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Pineappleexpress42

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Hi you guys. I've been doing a pretty big amount of heroin recently for me. Over the past 2 weeks I've done 9 bags containing .4 each. The previous week I did 4 and it was mostly smoked, and about 1 bag sniffed and one bag shot. This past week I picked up 5 and have used them all via iv. I will not have any tomorrow but will the next day. I'm scared that I will be very sick, could you guys tell me what to expect? And anything that would help? My friend offered suboxone if it is very bad
 
Given your pretty short usage, most of your w/ds will likely be psychological. If you survive tomorrow, which you will, I recommend not using the dope the day after that and you won't have any of these anxieties anymore.
 
Moredopamine said:
Given your pretty short usage, most of your w/ds will likely be psychological. If you survive tomorrow, which you will, I recommend not using the dope the day after that and you won't have any of these anxieties anymore.
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I was going to say the same thing. Honestly man, your probably going to get high the day after tomorrow anyway, but nobody is going to know your body chemistry enough to know exactly what's in store for you withdrawal wise and as much as you don't want to hear this, you're going to find out for yourself soon enough.

When I first started to experience withdrawals, I wouldn't really feel them until about a full day after my last use and they wouldn't really be intense, but more annoying with an overall shitty feeling. As much as I hate to use this comparison, I guess it could be roughly compared to the onset of coming down with a sickness such as the flu; not enough that I couldn't function, but enough to make me just want to lie around and do nothing all day and not go to work.

The first symptom I would get would be the goosebumps/chills and general fluctuations in the way I felt my body temperature. Other shit would be the change/general lack of appetite, a general anxious shitty feeling, increased pain sensitivity (something like stubbing your toe hurts a lot more than usual), slight joint/body aches and trouble falling asleep and when you finally do, you end up waking up every hour or so. Your sense of smell and taste could also be negatively impacted. It's honestly just generally unpleasant and not something you want to go through.

Save yourself the future stress and heed other's warnings and advice when it comes to opiates man.
 
tomatalli said:
2 weeks isn't enough unless you've been physically dependent before.
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That does not hold true for everyone, that may be your experience but it is not necessarily a hard fact.

If you do heroin every day for 2 weeks and do it pretty much throughout those days then you can (and many do) experience mild withdrawals from it. They are definitely not as severe as some, but of course one of the factors that influences how bad WDs are is length of time you have been using.

As a nurse, I have seen people who have never used narcotics before in their life and then post-op be given morphine or other drugs for pain for a couple of weeks and then when it is stopped they definitely have some issues with withdrawals. Sometimes it is morphine, sometimes other drugs that are on the upper end of the spectrum when it comes to strength of the narcotics....but heroin is just as strong or stronger than most pharms so yes, if you use it for 2 weeks straight you most definitely can experience withdrawals.
 
You'll probably have itchy watery eyes, runny nose,maybe yawning a lot and a just kinda shitty feeling. Like bad allergies.
 
You were doing 9 bags a day for two weeks or just 9 bags over the course of 2 weeks..? There is a big difference.

Anyway, it looks like you meant all together over the course of 2 weeks, which is a very small amount of heroin to use. So that, combined with the fact you only did it for a couple weeks, and that you've never had a dependency before, makes it pretty likely you will be fine..meaning that whatever withdrawals you have will be like a common cold. Very bearable.

Here's the catch.. if you do not stop now, and continue to use, especially daily... your withdrawals will get worse and worse. You're at a very stoppable point right now.. you can nip this in the butt and turn back, living a good life.

But if you use again, even if you tell yourself it's just going to be once, you're going to be back on this forum in 6 months in so much pain, you'll want to skin yourself alive, and be asking us for help.

Make the smart choice. Put the shit down.
 
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Well it definitely felt a little worse then the "onset" of a cold. I had times were I'd get very cold and have goose bumps for no reason, I felt Nausea all day and ended up puking. I felt tons of pain throughout my back that I'd rate at a pretty consistent 5.5/10. Runny nose, I felt like I was shitting rocks and plenty more wonderful symptoms. About 2 hours ago I copped a few more bags and my friend also gave me a suboxone for later. I'm already high now and feel much better but I want to get back to not being dependent. So I plan to slowly wean myself off and will hopefully be good after about 3-4 days. Then I'm going to take another 2-3 day break before starting up again.
 
Pineappleexpress42 said:
I'm already high now and feel much better but I want to get back to not being dependent. So I plan to slowly wean myself off and will hopefully be good after about 3-4 days. Then I'm going to take another 2-3 day break before starting up again.
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I remember being this naive. You're not going to take this to heart until you've been through it yourself and learned the hard way, but you're no exception to the rule. You can't just dabble with heroin without getting physically addicted. So what if you can detox for 3 days before starting up again, you're just going to be back to this same fucking position facing the same problems all over again. Your life will gradually get worse the longer you're on it until you reach the point where you're depressed 24/7 and you want to die because life has lost all meaning. Then not only will you have to deal with physical withdrawals, but you'll have to deal with PAWS (post-acute withdrawal syndrome) where you're depressed and full of anxiety for a couple months after quitting. It's not pretty, but I'm sure you'll see all this firsthand soon enough.
 
Pineappleexpress42 said:
Hmm... i sense some sarcasm, well at least I won't be physically addicted then
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The problem is it gets easier to get addicted every time you go on a run. Like if you use again after you get through all the withdrawals it will put you back into physical dependence a lot quicker than the first time it happened. Your symptoms will also be much more severe over time. All these other posters have had habits and are trying to scare you strait. There intentions are noble but it sounds like you are already hooked. And i am a firm believer that no one accidently gets into heroin. If your here than this is where you need to be right now. That said its so easy to get reckless, to feel like your life has no meaning or value. That's bullshit. Educate yourself on what your doing take precautions use clean rigs, sterile technique and keep some narcan around. You do all that and you might live to see the other side of this shit.
 
crimsonjunk said:
The problem is it gets easier to get addicted every time you go on a run. Like if you use again after you get through all the withdrawals it will put you back into physical dependence a lot quicker than the first time it happened. Your symptoms will also be much more severe over time. All these other posters have had habits and are trying to scare you strait. There intentions are noble but it sounds like you are already hooked. And i am a firm believer that no one accidently gets into heroin. If your here than this is where you need to be right now. That said its so easy to get reckless, to feel like your life has no meaning or value. That's bullshit. Educate yourself on what your doing take precautions use clean rigs, sterile technique and keep some narcan around. You do all that and you might live to see the other side of this shit.
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I agree. If you are trying to avoid physical dependence then you need to take a longer break before starting back up again. I recommend a 2 week break and then after than never use more than 2 days a week.
 
no. you wont get sick. you can "pretend" you were doing a lot but you were doing shit. do yourself a favor and take a long time break; as a matter of fact, QUIT NOW cuz I have seen many people DIE to this drug; why would you want it? think of it, dude? cuz you want to feel what? cuz it seems you really dont have a clue as of yet, right? so why not look elsewhere?
 
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