First Spiritual Trip

[jyung]

Hey everyone. This is my first post on bluelight, although I've been roaming for about a year. This forum has been of tremendous value to me and I hope to be able to contribute with some of my own experiences in time!

I'm planning on undertaking my first truly spiritual trip tonight with about a half-eighth of mushrooms. I've tried acid three times and mushrooms once over the past 8 months. Mushrooms were my most recent psychedelic experience a few months ago, a half eighth.

Acid was nothing but happy feelings and wonder, I went into each trip with a different mindset and got completely different results; nothing but goodness. My experience with a half-eighth of mushies was something else. I went into the trip with an arrogant mindset, considering I had tripped a few times and had not had so much as a single awkward moment; and I was with a friend who had never tripped on anything before, so I felt I had to be somewhat cocky to make him feel secure.

The experience was generally decent, but it was colored by awkward moments where I felt my mind turning against me while I gripped for control. I attributed this to my low marijuana tolerance: the next five or so times I smoked after this trip brought back the exact same feelings of deep rooted paranoia and fear of losing my mind. After some research, I realized a lot of this is caused by smoking too much. I eased myself back into smoking with just a hit or two at a time and am now fine with smoking.

I smoked a lot that trip, right as I was peaking, and I'm pretty sure that was the cause of my intense dissociation and paranoia - not the mushrooms. Acid, by itself, has never made me feel paranoid or anxious, no matter what the circumstances. Part of me still questions whether the paranoia was caused by the mushrooms or smoking too much, but I'm almost certain it was the marijuana.

I've been craving a psychedelic experience for the past month or two but have been unable to procure anything. This has been a stressful week for me, something big happened earlier this week that has me completely questioning where I'm going and what I'm doing with my life. Coincidentally, I managed to get my hands on some mushies and I can't help but feel that they found their way to me for a reason; I think that I could really benefit from a different perspective on my life right now and it almost seems like this was meant to be.

I'm going into this trip with a completely humble mindset, and this is the first trip I am truly going into with the intent to evaluate my life situation and not just to "feel weird and see pretty colors". I guess the intent of this post is to ask for good vibes and any advice to make this a truly spiritual and mind-opening experience.

 

[MrGrunge]

I seem to be singing its praises a lot recently, but I can't recommend DXM enough for deep, introspective pursuits of self-discovery. I recently had a life-changing epiphany while under it's influence, and have been using it the past few months to work out some of the insecurities in my life. It effectively separates you from your emotions so you can more objectively think through the various problems in your life without all of that guilt/shame/anxiety/etc. If you want some tips for how best to use it to maximize a trip's effectiveness, shoot me a PM. Glad to help anyone looking to use a drug for growth reasons rather than pure recreation.

 

[jesusmaker]

well IMO psychedelics are to be respected in a manner other then just to get high. I view tripping as a teaching experience of one's mind and should be explored using caution. I personally think that a half eighth of shrooms is quite a small dose, but who knows could be amazing mush or you could have a lower tolerance then me. Well in the great words of Terence Mckenna (a mushroom master haha) says to get the full experience out of this plant is to consume on an empty stomach (don't eat about 4-6 hours before, I personally don't eat the whole day and take them at around 7pm). He says then to eat them and mush them up really good in your mouth and swallow without anything else (personally I chop them up really fine put them in a bottle with water and shake, then consume making sure to get every spec). Then he says to lay down in a comfortable place in the DARK and wait for the experience to begin in about 20-40mins (I like to listen to Pink Floyd's Atom Heart Mother (about 24mins) while smoking a bit of bud to relax in the DARK).

I would suggest tripping in complete darkness or with some psychedelic light (lava lamp, disco ball, etc), listen to music that makes you comfortable (or no music is awesome too), and being solo can really induce a spiritual experience.

 

[jyung]

I was considering doing it with a good girl friend of mine, although I would really like to lay in the dark, watch winamp visualizers on my laptop, and listen to some dubstep or psytrance and get lost in my head. Only problem with that is I'm at home with the parents for summer, and although I'm pretty sure I could hold it together, they might notice the lighthouse pupils and the paranoia might get to me.

 

[greenmeanies]

Half an eighth doesn't seem like enough to fully catalyze a 'spiritual trip', but good for you for not diving right into Terrence McKenna land

I would suggest you do not try tripping in your parents' house while they are home.

 

[Psychodelirium]

OP, I appreciate the clarity with which you describe your experience and your intent. You probably already know this, but I don't think you should worry about losing your mind. However, you should not be surprised if the negative feelings you describe arise again with or without marijuana. In my experience, the really powerful and insightful states produced by mushrooms require a tremendous amount of trust in the mind to sustain. So if you get the spiritual trip that you're looking for, the issues that you encountered previously may need to be resolved.

I would strongly advise that you pick a better set to do this. You are unlikely to get where you want to go if you spend your trip worrying about "holding it together". It is better to be alone. If you have to be around people, make sure they are people you trust completely and are very comfortable with (i.e. not family members who do not know or approve of what you're doing).

Also, definitely try a higher dose. When I've tried taking these smaller doses with a serious intent, it has always resulted in a lot of mental struggle and confusion. With doses of 3g or more, there is almost always some interesting result.

 

[eLeSaH]

Find a decent dose of mushrooms were you don't have too much mindfuck like thought loops etc. Use that dose, wait an hour till you are in, then smoke or vape some sativa strain, but a low dose. The problem with combining is always that it brings you actually more down at that moment so one always starts doing more because the high feeling doesn't come. That's when you OD and fear and paranoia starts. That's why you should prepare the dosage beforehand. If you did all of that then get your headphones on and start some meditation or nice ambient music on youtube. Buddhist have good music for this kind of things. Search for buddhist meditation for example. The video may be short but time doesn't matter anyway. Lay down and let yourself go from all your sorrows and bad feelings. Be free, don't fear. The rest will come alone.

 

[jyung]

Whoops. I meant to say that I would really like to trip at home in the dark by myself, but since I'm at my parents house for another monthish I did it at my friend's house with her.

It was an amazing experience. I did have to deal with the paranoid thought loops again, even without marijuana, for the first hour or so of the trip. Then I was finally able to let go of my ego and enter other worlds without the anxiety and nervousness of my ego being caught in this world. It was truly mind-opening and cathartic, the feeling of being stuck in this world and all of its trivial feelings because of an overactive ego, then feeling my ego give way completely to the other side and everything suddenly making sense.

I'm going to spend some time putting together a report for this because something magical happened last night...that feeling of letting go, of just riding the cosmic wave...I have never experienced such a feeling of nirvana.

I have a lot of reflecting to do.

 

[eLeSaH]

You should do it as soon as you can, cuz mostly you forget many details.