Opioids First day Off the Ledge...Oxy's Horrible reaction

[serpant]

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Hello Bluelight users!

I am in search of help from anybody who has gone through this before! I figured I could share my story here, so here it goes! My girlfriend is the love of my life, and after being with her for almost 11 months, I know it's true! When we first started dating I had no idea how deep she was.. She is such a good person and in no way shape or form am I trying to dock her or speak bad about her. Before we met I had only experienced with psych drugs, mescaline, shrooms, etc... When we first started dating I was smoking weed and drinking good scotch. After amazing times with this girl, we began to adjust to each other's lifestyle. She had been screwed over by a guy who got her pregnant which resulted in a mis-carriage. She did not take care of it properly, and thus, she ended up going through a lot of surgery. After surgery she had gotten a prescription medication of oxycodone 30 mg in which she now carries quite a bit. I had slowly started to get into the medication with her and it had drained all of the $ i was going to use for a house.. I am now in a stage where I have support financially along with my job, however I got caught in the mess of Oxy and got to about 3 x 30 mg a day!!! Smoking these was what dominated the scene for me. The high was amazing, as some of you probably know!!! I have decided to quit after such a long time and would love to talk more about my girlfriend in a future thread, but today I would like some help and guidance from you knowledgeable users or ex users. I consider myself very strong, and I pride myself on being able to quit anything. I've quit something strong before, and I can quit again! I need some guidance and help though, and I am super set on quitting. I got my mind prepared, nobody but my girlfriend and her friend knows I do these...

I have researched quite a few things to help with w/d symptoms. I tapered down on the drug, and i started at 2x30 mg oxy a day. I would do one in the morning one at night. I did this for three days. I moved on to half a 30 mg in the morning, half before i went to work in the afternoon, and half of one at night, again in three day intervals. I moved on to half of a 30 mg in the morning and half a 30 mg at night for about 2 days. I really had my mind set on quitting, so I decreased the dosage to a half a day, either all at once or a quarter of a 30 mg in the morning and a quarter at night. That lasted 2 days, and although I should probably continue on with the taper, I am tired of this shit and I have 3 days off of work to deal with the beginning symptoms. I had shotguns along the way of the oxy smoke from my girlfriend. I do not know how much i get from each shotgun, that would be a good help for somebody to answer for me, but it doesnt matter because guess what! Today is day one no oxycodone. It feels great. I know the symptoms will intensify, however everybody's story I have read, people have been using for a long time. I have only been using for a bout 6 1/2 months, so I know that I have an arm up on people who have been using for years. I have currently looked into magnesium and my girlfriend had a friend that gave me some muscle relaxer stuff that helped with her mind as well. I have a very very strong mind... I'm all about mind over body, I'm not worried about my brain, im worried about the symptoms being too overwhelming... But I know I can do it. I refuse to go on anything that would either mitigate completely or negate the symptoms only to prolong w/d symptoms. Please help! I can do this, but i know there are better natural remedies out there than what I have planned. Any info is helpful to me. Thank you for taking the time to read my story. If you need any information regarding my status let me know and I will keep everybody posted on my progress. Thanks again,

 

[Lechium]

Get some bali kratom it really takes away almost all physical wd symptoms. I wish I had it back in the day when I first tried quitting h. Also I was actually able to get some sleep on and some benedryl. First few nights id wake up sometimes in the middle of the night in wd but go downstairs take some more and soon was back in bed sleeping. It kicks in quick too. Also take immodium it helps a great deal as it fills up those empty receptors. U need to take at least 6 or so at once. U can get some kava tea that will help. U dont even need to buy the legit stuff I found even the yogi kava stress relief tea they sell at walmart helps a bit. Kratom is def ur best bet tho. Good luck.

 

[bpayne]

Good luck on quitting but I have to add. Please DON'T smoke oxycodone, it's horrible for your lungs and wastes like 90% of the drug. The best bioavailability is with oral administration.

 

[Tommyboy]

It shouldn't be that bad. Not to sound tough or anything but I kick habits in which 90mg of oxycodone would barely touch me cold turkey while still going to work full time, so you should be alright especially since you tapered down and weren't getting the full dose of oxy from smoking it anyway.

 

[serpant]

Word!!! Tommyboy, I appreciate your input my friend!!! BPayne, I will never smoke that shit again, thanks mang!!

Lechium, I appreciate your input buddy!!! I heard Benadryl is terrible, like benzos kick the RLS like crazy, am I wrong here??? My RLS usually comes in my left leg and it has been completely negated by the magnesium at this point and I am close to 24 hours in. I've made it this far before, and this time I am going all the way!! I did hear a lot about lopramine, but I am not going to take that even in small doses. I know it is similar to immodium and I will take immodium in small doses thank you!!! Since immodium is alike lopramine and the lopramine just delays the wd symptoms if you take over 10 mg, should I stick to under 10 mg of immodium ? Or the 6 like you stated above?? Thanks again for your help my friend. What is bali Kratom buddy? Is it tea? I'll def look into that tomorrow afternoon. Ill keep you all posted, I appreciate the help my friends!!! You are all good people in some way shape or form!!!

 

[serpant]

Going to take a xanex, hot shower, smoke a bowl, eat some soup and take a magnesium pill before bed. My girlfriend is giving me some neurontin if my RLS starts to kick in. I will be getting immodium tomorrow, and I will keep you posted about what I find about the Kratom. Thanks guys, this makes stuff so much easier to quit. Only my gf is helping me so I need to stay strong!!! to all!!!

 

[Flaga121]

Careful with the Kratom, very easy for that to become daily as well.

 

[Rox]

For me everybody in the world happened to be lying to me, nobody loved me or came close to wanting to care about me, and people kept on showing me they didn't want to see me on the face of the earth. So when I was laying with my face down it was like the birds were circling over me and waiting. It was being all by myself and not being able to face the world (same world that doesn't want to give me freedom or to let me live) that got me.

 

[serpant]

Hang in there RoX! There are always people out there that you just haven't met yet my friend. I haven't researched Kratom yet guys, sorry, I've been very busy these few days... ironic that im going through withdrawals and have like some of the most important stuff going on ever!!! haha.

Regardless. Day 2. Feels Absolutely Amazing right now! I got close to 8 hours sleep with a little split in the middle for some chex mix (BOMB for soaking toxins lol) and another bowl/magnesium pill. I cant say enough about this combo. I will probably use it throughout the w/d's but day 2 and right now the only symptoms i can feel are chills from my back... If I didn't have to go do stuff, i'd totally go back to bed too. I'm staying strong through the day and ill keep you guys updated when I get home!!! Gotta get past this day and I should be toward the worst of it. My last note.. I really don't understand how the w'd's are not kicking me like crazy, I feel great right now!!!

 

[Halif]

Since immodium is alike lopramine and the lopramine just delays the wd symptoms if you take over 10 mg, should I stick to under 10 mg of immodium ? Or the 6 like you stated above??

Hi Serpant!

Loperamide is the active ingredient in Immodium and other similar products. Immodium is a brand name, while loperamide is the actual chemical.

I have experienced how effective loperamide can be in reducing opiate WDs, but after years of being addicted and dependent on opiates, and having gone through many tapers, detoxes, cold turkeys, I would say that in most cases loperamide should not be taken to aid opiate WDs.

The reason being that it is quite an insidious substance with a very long half-life and is capable of producing absurdly awful withdrawals. Knowing what I know now, I always think "uh oh" when I see a post like this where someone is taking - or thinking of taking - lope for WDs. Not saying it's a bad idea, or that it's guaranteed to lead to hell.. necessarily.

But my experience has taught me that it is actually easier, all things considered, to simply go through hell for a few days and just get it over with. If you're talking about relatively short acting opiates or opioids like oxy, heroin.. then yes it's brutal to cold turkey. however, when benzos, and lope, and other shit starts getting added to the mix there's a risk of wanting to eliminate all discomfort, losing track of the goal, and actually just dragging out the inevitable suffering.

Damn, if I had known how much worse benzo WDs were than opiate WDs... eh, that's my mistake, but I'm sure there are many others who got stuck on benzos in the same way.

Anyway, man, good luck!!

 

[jtn1711]

the Meng Da kratoms are the deal...they work great...and they are the strongest...i used them when I am out of percs......im me and i can give u the info....w/d sucks!!!! but this makes u feel like no w/d at all!

 

[serpant]

Halif~

Word Bro!! Thank you so much my friend!!! You know what, I actually will not take immodium after hearing that!!! I ate a chipotle burrito because it just sounded good today and all I could think of was.... " what if the immodium screws me over even more..." So good thought.. I bought immodium and gingerale just incase, because my w/d's and length of use of the drug, simply are just not overwhelming and i don't feel like it could hurt too much if I change my mind. It's getting close to the 48 hour mark here, and I'm feeling kinda shitty compared to the first night. Just took a hot bath, and smoked another bowl. In regards to benzos, I confused xanex with benadryl earlier. The only aid I have used other than marijuana, is magnesium and xanex and quitting the xanex wont be hard after I have a few nights without it. The rest is all normal stuff... gingerale, oj, water, tea. ^^ Do you have any idea how long until you start to feel physically normal again?? I've heard it can take up to 7 days of this shit, but getting through tomorrow will seem to me to be the hardest. I got this shit though, wont ever let oxy in my system again. Peace to all please continue posting here! Cheering me on really helps a lot, the more I read, the harder I focus! Thank you everybody. I will update before bed and let you guys know how it pans out.

CHYEAH ^

 

[serpant]

the Meng Da kratoms are the deal...they work great...and they are the strongest...i used them when I am out of percs......im me and i can give u the info....w/d sucks!!!! but this makes u feel like no w/d at all!

word man, i've been hearing that this kind of delay's the symptoms tho, am I wrong here guys?? I have not been able to pinpoint what kratom exactly is and stems from and if it could delay the symptoms or not. For almost 2 days, I'm proud of myself so far, I'd like to say if it doesn't get too much worse, the pain should be manageable by doing what I'm doing currently. Either way, I appreciate your post my friend. If I discover Kratom to be a good solution, then I will definitely get some.

 

[The Doc.]

Kratom is a natural mild opiate that's why it takes away withdrawal its activating your opiate receptors. It gets people who aren't hooked on opiates pretty dam high my biddy used to use it and nod out like he was on heroin.

 

[serpant]

yea im staying away from it, although many people say it might help, I'm almost to day 3. I'm toughin it out, the only difference tonight is i did take half of a 600 mg neurontin, and it helped a little with my mixture. Im gonna grab a snack and try to sleep. See ya in the morning!

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

^^^

Kudos, man. Just keep toughing it out. You were on a low dose and aren't that sick, so you should have no problem just hanging on and taking nothing. You're reaching the peak right now, which is usually around day 3-4. So within the next few days, you'll start feeling much much better.

 

[serpant]

^^^

Kudos, man. Just keep toughing it out. You were on a low dose and aren't that sick, so you should have no problem just hanging on and taking nothing. You're reaching the peak right now, which is usually around day 3-4. So within the next few days, you'll start feeling much much better.

Word bro!!! Morning guys! But yep, I agree completely. I'm toughing it out right now, got about 7 hours sleep last night so my mind is rested. I had to take a little more xanex last night, which I didn't really like doing, but it totally helped me zonk out for a bit. I feel ok right now. It's about 10:00 am and I just had a glass of orange juice, a banana, and took a magnesium pill, as I had started to feel RLS like crazy. It is helping though. Also smoked a bowl to keep my head occupied for at least a little bit. I'm going to stop magnesium on a constant basis after I start feeling better. The neurontin should be for night time, and tonight + maybe tomorrow should be the only other times I will need it. I should start feeling the worst around 3-4 pm today, and I'm dreading that like f'ing crazy right now but my mind is set on staying clean, and if the thought of anything comes to my head today, i'm just gonna think about something else immediately. Damn this shit is really hard but I totally got it guys. I'll let you know later in the day how I feel. Thanks again!!!

 

[serpant]

Right on guys, day 3 isnt too bad. I have mild discomfort in my legs, back and head along with a bit of the shits.... but I'm about to smoke a bowl, and take another hot shower, so that should help my body quite a bit. I don't want to take an over amount of magnesium because I feel like it would upset my stomach. If I can make it until tomorrow night I should start to feel a little bit better on the symptom portion. Being physically strong is all I care about right now, the mental part I have a plan on how to deal with it once I feel better. Ill keep ya guys posted!!! Thanks again!!!

 

[serpant]

Right on. Day 4! Didn't post last night. I am feeling pretty good tho, I've been eating well and taking magnesium. The xanax helped again last night. I only take one of them, and I will be replacing xanax with benadryl once my body feels 100 %. I'm pretty sure the bile came out the other side, cuz I have not been throw up sick, and I always have gotten that before. I think it has a lot to do with smoking oxy. I feel like I'm past the peak. Mild discomfort in my back / legs and i've slept every night since day 1 so my head feels fine. I've had a lot going on though so it's probably good that I keep my mind busy.

 

[serpant]

Day 5 guys ^ ^ Pretty sure I made it through the worst. I'm feeling a lot better this morning. Had some fun with the girl, and smoked some weed. The magnesium oj/banana combo helps my legs. Last night at work I had terrible pain in my knees and lower back.. I hope that doesn't happen again. I'm gonna stick to 1 mg xanax today, weed, and supplement the remainder of the xanax i was taking for benadryl. I will not use benadryl until later tonight, so i'll most likely use magnesium again for the body aches. I'm gonna kick the neruontin today, and if necessary ill take a massive tylenol pill when I take magnesium later. Once the leg pain goes away, I should be done with this. I haven't gotten sick at all besides mild bile'd shits... my brain is working good at the moment, and I got a lot of that shit out of my system. I'm still drinking tea / water at work along w/ a tad of oj. I'm thinking I should be ok by tomorrow so the only thing I will take tomorrow will be 2 x magnesium pills one in the morning and one at night and 2 benadryl at night... as well as the remainder of this bud. I should be ok i'm thinking completely by wednesday afternoon with thursday morning feeling glorious!!! Rough trip all the way down guys, but if you can handle wd's without using lopramine or kratom, for me at least, the body should feel okay. Magnesium, xanex, and bud were the best. I'm lucky I didnt take xanex before this because I could see how the xanex could become daily, but in my situation I don't take enough to get hooked, and I will be kicking that by tomorrow. Thanks for the encouragement, and details on things guys. I'll be posting here tonight / tomorrow / the next day to let you know the remainder of everything. I should be done with everything except for bud (OBVIOUSLY HEHE) and maybe magnesium, which is good for your body regardless so ill probly continue taking it for a while. Off topic real quick... does anybody know anything that helps joint pain? It will only be temporary. Thanks guys!!!