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First candy flip

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Hello BL, I'm kinda new to this but hey everyone! So last weekend I had my first experience with acid (which was amazing, took only 1 tab but it was strong). This weekend I'm getting 2 tabs and a decently strong roll. I've read alot about candyflipping already but have gotten mixed signals. Everyone says to try acid at least once before it but don't mention if it's nessisairy to try MDMA first too (I never hve but I've experinced with lots of other pills at high levels like 12mg of Xanax, 85 of perc's and 130 of adderall). I've never had a bad experice with any of these. I'm mentally strong I feel. I would be doing this alone (my trip sitter would be on skype with me if that counts as a trip sitter :P). So my main questions are will I most likely be fine, what order should I take everything (tabs first, or one tab wait second wait then pill). And also best things to do while candy flipping? I don't wanna fuck it up and mess myself up. Ok thanks everyone!
 
the "candy flip" as most call it (I prefer just saying "lsd and mdma combo") is pretty much my favorite altered state of consciousness. I have quite a bit of experience with different timings, dosages, and other factors - each which create a completely different experience than the next.

For your first, I strongly recommend dosing your lsd (always at once, never boosting), then just enjoy that for quite a while, basically put the mdma out of your mind and just enjoy the lsd trip until it AT LEAST reaches its heights. Im talking 3-3.5-4 hours after your lsd dose time. At this point you should be at maximum saturation of lsd visuals and euphoria. During this "comeup" time I strongly recommend just relaxing, focusing on keeping yourself relaxed and breathing deeply, just going with the flow of the experience no matter where it takes you mentally. I have noticed that as I focus on my breath - slowing and deepening it, I become so utterly relaxed and euphoric that its just unbelievable. As this happens, the visuals become very fluffy, colorful, and 3-dimensional more with each relaxing breath that my mind is focused on. If things start to become tense or uncomfortable (not bad trip territory or anything just tense) - take your focus back to your breath and feel it all melt away as you exhale the depth of your lungs.

... anyway, after you feel you have reached the top and "mastered" the relaxing, visual euphoria that everyone has the choice of getting out of an lsd trip... THEN swallow your mdma tab. This immediately sends you to euphoric and visual heights that just minutes ago you wouldve never imagined possible. This method of lsd first, wait as long as possible, then drop the mdma is by far the most comfortable, euphoric, visual, and intense method for me and everyone I know. Its the best way to get the most out of each chem (much more than either is capable on their own) and has the longest duration... although other methods (at the same time, mdma right when lsd kicks in, or mdma first, lsd after - which is mainly just tripping although with a positive touch) do have something interesting to offer in their own right. Really though, none of them are even comparable... especially if you have any kind of mdma tolerance. (the mdma wears off real quick leaving you tripping only and many times disappointed you arent expecting it)
 
Thanks alot dude that's gonna help a ton. I also will be getting like .3 of Molly too, should I save that for a diff night or what? Ive heard that redosing on ecstasy is a bad idea doesn't work well (I think it's because your seretonin is already depleted but not sure) but what would you suggest I do with the Molly? Im only gettin one bean by the way.
 
No problem. I would save the bean and use prob half of the .3 of the molly... but it really depends on which one you trust the purity of more. I wouldn't suggest re-dosing, only because it wont likely be necessary. After you have already enjoyed hours of just the lsd... then drop the molly/mdma/pressed pill its going to add hours more to the experience - usually at least 4 more hours of a very intense and wonderful experience - but it really depends on the quality of everything. Remember that lsd usually peaks for 5-6 hours, but really lasts around a full 8-9-12. Adding the mdma in at that later point will be sure to extend the peak of the lsd into the timeperiod that would otherwise be "comedown" of the lsd. Same deal with the mdma - the peak is extended pretty far into what would normally be comedown - for me there really isnt much of a comedown with that combo.

I would save either the bean and half the molly, or save all the molly, or save maybe 100 mg of the molly and the bean, consuming .2 of the molly that night. It all kind of depends on your tolerance, set/setting and such. If you don't have any or much of a tolerance and the molly is decent, you should have a very intense experience with only 100- maybe150 in that combo.

One thing you dont need to worry as much about as people usually do until they try it is - when you dose the mdma at the latter part of the lsd... you may expect things to get too intense or more intense than you may be comfortable with, but actually the mdma brings much comfort and ease with its added intensity. I have actually brought a friend out of a real bad freakout by administering mdma to him. He was scared to take it at first, but about 20 minutes later he was hugging me with tears in his eyes, thanking me for "saving him" lol. I am not recommending this type of action to someone who isnt very experienced and absolutely knows that what they have is in fact mdma, because it could go very wrong with adulterated mdma or pills. Just to put into perspective the type of "change" the mdma brings to the lsd trip - its intense, but in a very pleasurable way, where the ego actually stays pretty well intact. (can be sort of a not-so-favored aspect of the combination depending on what you are going for)
 
Aight thanks bro. This probably sounds kinda stupid but what if I took the bean tomorrow and the Molly and tabs the next day? Will my seretonin not be ready enough for a second roll the next day
 
Fuck me. I wouldn't want to do that alone. I had MDMA and acid once and the night was a blur. You're a braver man than I am.
 
Haha I've done a lot of stuff alone, I feel like I'm more calm and in control of the situation alone and now with someone else who is like unpredictable what they'll do especially if they're flipping like I will be but that man ahah are you suggesting I don't? Like was it to overwhelming alone?
 
no its not "worse" alone. I do 99.9% of all my trips alone. The whole "youll freak out by yourself" mentality is a kids thing (I felt the same way when I was young but learned better). You are really on the right track with "I feel like I'm more calm and in control of the situation alone and now with someone else who is like unpredictable what they'll do".
I always fly solo, not because Im worried about the other person freaking me out or anything... just them getting on my nerves - maybe the type who doesn't really trip the same way as me ("hey duuuude" types - dude-brahs maybe?). I actually take it all pretty seriously.
Like I said, you really don't have anything to worry about the combo being "overwhelming". Soon as the mdma starts in you are going to laugh at yourself for ever being concerned because you are going to be in such heaven. The only opportunity you would have to actually freak would be the time before you take the mdma... and even then, I couldnt see it happening because you will know that you have the mdma.
...but to answer your question - no you absolutely should not do what you are implying. You want that mdma to kick in at full potential for the flip. Seriously don't even think about wasting any of its punch the day before. Just be patient and meditate and prepare for the real fireworks the next day. Do you practice any meditation? I would at least work on following and slowing your breathing simply because it is soooo effective in enhancing an lsd (and mdma) trip (euphorically and visually). If anything, I would do the "only mdma" trip the day after the flip if you absolutely have to go two days in a row. But really... just save it. You will thank yourself. I have ended up really beating myself up psychologically for wasting chems on yesterday's tolerance.
 
Haha thanks again for the help man I'll definelty save it after reading that. My only worry now is I just looked at a random ass pill report and saw orange rolls and people were saying they had speed in em or were "pipes" (not site what that is but it seemed bad) and my man called me up like a half hour before saying he's getting orange rolls ahaha but I'll just hope they're clean and if I'm really to worried I'll just take my
Molly instead
 
As for trying MDMA first, I would strongly recommend it; only because it's my policy with every drug though. I like to get a good taste for the energy from one substance before I mix it with something else. For example, a person who has an MDMA/Amp pill their first time rolling may always associate the speedy feeling with a 'good roll' and thus a problem is born.

Not to say candyflipping isn't goddamned incredible, but why not wait and leave that to look forward to? A next level if you will? MDMA is a whole magical, beautiful, indescribable orgasm filled 4 hours of euphoria and if you have an opportunity to experience it in itself I would. LSD is enough fun on it's own too imo.

On another note, I absolutely love doing MDMA by myself. Well, usually it's just my gf is asleep or doing something and I'll roll and listen to music and be introspective..it's really helped me a lot with some of my problems. I wouldn't call it PTSD cuz I don't wanna self-diagnose, but I had a pretty whack stepmom and MDMA has helped me love myself again in a way I don't know how I would've otherwise. But, to each his own.


EDIT: I've had orange rolls before.

http://www.pillreports.com/index.php?page=display_pill&id=22807
 
if you arent absolutely certain that it is mdma, do not flip it! Anything short of ONLY mdma would surely ruin my experience if what I am expecting is mdma. I am a purist though and dont mess with anything else. Pipes are a really nasty experience in my opinion.
 
oh and also - him showing you that report does not mean that "you most likely have pipes"! There are tons of orange rolls out there and not all of them are dirty pipes. Between this and you never even having heard of pipes... Im really sorry, but I have to say I am getting the feeling that you should do much much more research before your next adventure. These sessions are nothing to be taken lightly. I know you are asking questions here and that is good, but you really need to do "the work" - meaning tons of research. Become an expert - then partake.
 
I really have haha I know of dirty pills and ones cut with piperazine just no one around me calls them pipes. And my town has never had orange rolls either. I've done my research and read the guides on here too just idk anyone who calls them pipes or has ever candy flipped
 
Ok ok... then please accept my apology. I would either go with the molly for the flip or look up your orange one on pillreports or some pill testing site to see if you can get any piece of mind. There are decent pressed pills out there, but from my experience the younger age groups always seem to have the dirty, crappy ones. Not that its always that way, just something to consider.
 
Molly is just as likely, if not more likely, then pills to be cut. If you haven't tested it or tried it you don't know what's in it. Even if you have tried it, you don't necessarily know all the ingredients.
 
Yeah I know unless you have a testing kit you can never been completely sure exactly what is in em, and ya it does seem that way haha kinda annoying but nothing I can do about it
 
I would not take pills that I had not taken alone (i.e. without acid) previously. You better try them separetely first.

Also here is the candyflip thread.
 
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