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Finding professional help

Wolfmans_BrothEr

Wolfmans_BrothEr

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The only times I've been able to get real clean time is when I've moved somewhere new. Usually that means rehabs or lockup. Or if I've lost all my connects. Whenever I come back to new jersey I get fucked up. The whole ppl places n things bit. Plus I'm a dumbass and think I can dabble

This time I think it's dif. I genuinely dnt wanna continue to use opiates but I'm so scared of w.d plus it's hard to not be tempted to pick up especially when I can get whatever basically delivered to my front door

I feel like if I can get through withdrawal then I'll have a better shot of staying clean, but I really feel like I need professional help. Like detox or some shit. Only problem is I have essentially no funds and the insurance through my school will only cover like 2-3 days max. I've called a bunch of detoxes and it's all the same story

but I'm thinking there has to be something available to addicts who can't afford the fancy detox and rehabs. Like something besides na meeting and methadone/sub treatment. I dnt wanna do that cuz I feel like I'm just prolonging my addiction. A big part of it is just feeling like I need something, whether it's kratom, sub or opiates, to get through the day.
 
why have you completely denied yourself bupe or methadone, it can break the cycle of addiction (not physical dependance...), most doctors won't recommend it but you can do a relatively fast taper on either of these, it's a first step you should look into.

Why do you return to NJ if it's a trigger for relapse, why not get a fresh new start somewhere and just not go back?
 
It's not that easy. If I just stop going to school I'll have to start paying back my student loans, and I go to a pretty good school and would rather not fuck it up.

I don't want bupe or methadone (besides the money issue) I don't want to feel like I need to take a drug to function. I've been using drugs to self medicate since I was 13 and bupe will just be replacing one addiction for another. I've been on bupe and besides the mental dependency of just needing to take SOMETHING to feel better, I can't trust the addict part of myself to actually stick with a taper. I've tried it before and it just didn't work out

This is far from my first time getting clean/relapsing etc and I've personally found that abstinence is the best way to go about it. I've already made up my mind that I won't be using bupe or methadone
 
I had the same mentality forever about getting clean, basically going cold turkey, without methadone or subs is the only way to get clean. But now, I believe taking methadone is better than constantly relapsing. I just started the methadone treatment and actually this time I feel like it will work getting me off heroin for good.

But that's me. We are all different. I just had to see that it's better to be on methadone than it is to be on heroin. I am still contemplating either staying on maintenance or detoxing to subs and eventually being clean of every drug. On maintenance i know I'll always have that opiate high I love so much, and i won't be braking the law to get it.

Good luck with getting clean though. The only way i was able to go cold turkey was being in jail.
 
Do you have free counseling services through your university? If so, ask about CBT and mindfulness therapy. Those could be really helpful. Also, what about online Smart recovery or rational Recovery groups that also use CBT as part of the philosophy? I know there are not a whole lot of meetings like with AA?NA but there are online meetings. Has anyone ever tried this?

Here is a book that might help. good luck<3
 
Just call one of the detoxes and tell them you're indigent and you have no insurance! trust me son, I've been in this game for a minute! they'll never know and they'll take you!
 
Thanks guys

BlueHues - one of my boys told me to do the same thing, and in reality I am kinda indigent, but I guess I have too much of a conscience than to lie. Plus I remember doing that once before and they were talking about starting a process to receive Medicaid, which could fuck me over in terms of insurance fraud and whatnot

I guess I'm gonna try to go at it alone. counseling helps i know the importance of it and where to look for it, but I'm more concerned with just getting some clean time

Last dose was like 3 bags of dope on 12/15, and I spent the last week maintaining on 3g kratom 3x daily. yesterday (12/21) took 30mg oxycodone and 60mg codeine. So if anyone could offer some advice/encouragement/estimate of how long my physical symptoms will last it'd b greatly appreciated

And sry bout the self serving thread, I just figured myself and anyone else could benefit off some hotline or some shit addicts could call for assistance with finding a detox and financial assistance for it

Can anyone tell me why my eyes get HUGE bags under them while I'm withdrawaling. They look like two black holes. And is there anything I can do about it?
 
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