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finally help with dhc addiction!

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mickeyfinn79

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My partner has finally plucked up the courage to seek help for her dhc addiction I'm off to the doctors withe her tomorrow. she is on 90 mg three times a day does anyone know how her gp may help her?? (I've searched the net but can't find much on it) any help would be handy thanks
 
Depends on the GP,

If they are sensible they might put her on a reduction script of DHC.

Or they are retarded and get her on meth or subbies script. If this is your only option and she cannot bare to reduce herself on her own supply or do a straight CT then

I would advise not going on meth 100% that would be terrible and avoid at all costs.

Subbirs well some people think its OTT, but if she is on 270mg of DHC a day perhaps a low dose of subbies might be good, its a fairly easy process to taper and detox fully off.

Good luck and I hope she gets what she wants. Please avoid methadone its AWFUL
 
Thanks for the reply she has been on them 10+ years and can't taper off them she's had enough now and its started to affect her mental health I did wonder about subutex and I know that meth is horrible stuff.
 
Difficult because it's a slightly unnusual adddiction. With a good doctor she may be prescribed a taper, if not maybe a bupe script, or maybe just nothing if theyare a real arsehole (contact local drug services).
 
lol brimz (was asleep earlier bruv)



anyway, thats pretty clever of you micky, aversion therapy in having your doctor laugh long and hard in your girlfriend's face when she prefixes 'withdrawals' with '90mg dhc'


then you get to remind her whenever she starts up that the considered medical opinion is for her to shut the fuck up and quit whining
 
omen_owen mk2 said:
Difficult because it's a slightly unnusual adddiction. With a good doctor she may be prescribed a taper, if not maybe a bupe script, or maybe just nothing if theyare a real arsehole (contact local drug services).
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Basically agree with this. It will depend on the doctor but those are the options I would suggest are best suited. Obviously it's better to avoid a bupe script if possible as it's a step up (or even several steps up) the 'opi ladder', but it would almost certainly come with the support of a key worker and basically the same support as you'd get for an addiction to heroin or anything else. Tapering would perhaps be a less 'dramatic' step and almost certainly be the first option offered and worth trying as going onto an opioid maintenance script is a big step. I doubt that methadone would even be considered but, as has been pointed out and you've said yourself, it really shouldn't be an option in anything other than the very most extreme of cases.

Tapering ideally, bupe is perhaps not a bad idea if tapering simply isn't possible. And good luck to the both of you - your g/f (obviously) and also yourself cos she'll need your support cos any addiction is difficult to deal with and we could all do with all the help and support we can get <3
 
Shambles said:
Basically agree with this. It will depend on the doctor but those are the options I would suggest are best suited. Obviously it's better to avoid a bupe script if possible as it's a step up (or even several steps up) the 'opi ladder', but it would almost certainly come with the support of a key worker and basically the same support as you'd get for an addiction to heroin or anything else. Tapering would perhaps be a less 'dramatic' step and almost certainly be the first option offered and worth trying as going onto an opioid maintenance script is a big step. I doubt that methadone would even be considered but, as has been pointed out and you've said yourself, it really shouldn't be an option in anything other than the very most extreme of cases.

Tapering ideally, bupe is perhaps not a bad idea if tapering simply isn't possible. And good luck to the both of you - your g/f (obviously) and also yourself cos she'll need your support cos any addiction is difficult to deal with and we could all do with all the help and support we can get <3
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Yeah thanks for that I suppose she will have to try the taper but she is adamant she can't do it this way but I'll see what the Dr says.......cheers
 
Hi OP IME doctors will attempt to taper a "legit" dhc script, if that isn't a good solution for her, the GP usually will refer the patient to a drug treatment provider; that's the channel to any type of substitution, rehab, or detox. They can do a hell of a lot more than a GP in short.
 
Oh I thought Brimz had calmed down with that stuff but his bag of MDPV must be bigger than I thought it was =D
 
as shambles has said bupe is several steps up the opi ladder in terms of potency. But if your g/f is psychologically addicted to DHC and cannot bring herself to quit DHC then bupe may be the answer. When the doses of bupe get low there is no 'high' or recreational effects from it and it allows the user to seperate out the physical and psychological aspects of w/d. It took me about 8 months and 2 attempts to quit with an unsupervised black market bupe taper.

It would be a very bad move if she was prescribed too high a dose of bupe, she might enjoy it too much, and find herself becoming addicted to that instead, rather than it being 'opiate replacement therapy'. If she does go down the bupe road i would very strongly reccomend the lowest possible dose; 1mg or something, and to try and get the taper done as fast as possible, like 4 weeks or something, using the 0.2 mg pills. Stretching it out makes it possible to become dependant on/ addicted to a much stronger opi agonist/antagonist.
 
I was put on them at the end of a meth detox - I would definitly go for a taper as they are fairly easy to come off over a sensible period of time. Unfortunately didnt work for me as i was using the whole time and spent a weekend (NYE2000) in somerset with no gear chucking df118's by the handful down my neck./
 
ah yes, df's. i recall fondly the time when as a seventeen year old kid on intent-to-supply class a charges and being held overnight at her majesty's pleasure - the helpful police doctor, having being told that my habit was a gram daily - handed me one df and one temazepan with a look on his face like id forced him to give up a kidney. dont even think youd get the benzo these days
 
oh and re police doctors.... take my advice and avoid use of irony when discussing thoughts of self-harm. youll end up sleeping with a retina burning light in your face alongside fifteen minute observations throughout the night. nice if youre suicidal, not so much when youre tired and desperately trying to forget your surroundings by falling asleep
 
IME in London the police doctor will give you methadone- albeit not very much but enough to stop you puking.
 
BlindHelperMonkey said:
oh and re police doctors.... take my advice and avoid use of irony when discussing thoughts of self-harm. youll end up sleeping with a retina burning light in your face alongside fifteen minute observations throughout the night. nice if youre suicidal, not so much when youre tired and desperately trying to forget your surroundings by falling asleep
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i spose 15 minute observations is the best they can do. But if someone really wants to do it, someone facing a very long sentence for shamefull crimes, like Ian Watkins, they could esily do it immediately after one of the checks, knowing it will be another 15 minutes before they are checked again. I feel that there should be a better more high tech/medical means of monitoring suicide watch prsioners. Have their heart rate displayed on a remote monitor that would set off alarms if it peaked or fell or something. Im sure their heart rate would hugely increase whilst they were preparing to do it.
 
blondin said:
IME in London the police doctor will give you methadone- albeit not very much but enough to stop you puking.
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I never got 'done from a police doctor (whether I was on a script or not) but over the years I did learn (with a few tips from briefs) that they do have to give you something if you're in the cells clucking. There's a weird Catch 22 thing going on when it comes to recording interviews with a clucking addict. On the one hand, a decent brief (or even a shitty one) can get the interview made inadmissable on the grounds that you'll say anything just to get it over with so you can go score, but on t'other hand, you can claim to be under the influence (or indeed not far enough under the influence) and thus also inadmissable if they give you too much or to little (compared to what your habit "should be"). I always got a few DFs - just enough to keep the wolf from the door - and sometimes a couple diaz. Never got in enough trouble to need to push the inadmissable interview thing but was mentioned by more than one brief. How ethical you consider such a thing to be depends on your understanding (or otherwise) of what actually goes through one's mind when locked up, clucking, not gonna see daylight till you give some kinda interview.
 
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