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films: What movies angered you?

Giovi9 said:
Raz

How is Starwars1 racist? Let alone "hardcore racist"?

Just wondering....:\
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from Chasing Amy

Hooper X: For years in this industry, whenever an African American character, hero or villain, is introduced USUALLY by my white artist names. They got SLAPPED with racist names that singled them out as Negros! Now--my book, "White-Hating Coon", don't have any of that bullshit. The hero's name is Maleequa and he's descended from the black tribe that established the first society on the planet while all you European motherfuckers were all hiding out in caves 'n shit, terrified of the sun. He's a strong role-model that a young black reader can look up to. 'Cause I'm here to tell ya: the chickens are coming home to roost, y'all. The black man is no longer going to be playing the minstrel in the medium of comics and sci-fi fantasy. We're keeping it real! And we're going to get respect by any means necessary.

Holden (Ben Affleck): Ah, c'mon, that's a bunch of horseshit! Lando Calrissian was a black guy, y'know, he got to fly the Millenium Falcon! What's the matter with you!

Hooper: Who said that?

Holden: (standing up) I did. Lando Calrissian is a positive role-model in the realm of science fiction fantasy.

Hooper: Hey, FUCK Lando Calrissian!
(Holden shrugs and sits down)

Hooper: Uncle-Tom ¿¿¿¿¿¿, heh. It's always some white boy got to invoke the holy trinity. Bust this! Those movies are about how the white man keeps the brother-man down--even in a galaxy far far away. Check this shit. You got cracker farmboy Luke Skywalker, Nazi poster boy blond hair blue eyes. Then you got Darth Vader, blackest brother in the galaxy. Nubian god!

Banky (Jason Lee): (standing up) What's a nubian?

Hooper: Shut the fuck up! (Banky sits down) Now. Vader, he's a spiritual brother, down with the force and all that good shit. Then this cracker Skywalker gets his hands on a lightsaber, and the boy decides HE'S gonna run the whole fucking universe! Gets a whole KLAN of whites together and they go bust up Vader's hood, the Death Star! Now what the fuck do you call that?

Banky: Intergalatic civil war?

Hooper: Gentrification!! They gonna drive out the black element to make the galaxy quote-unquote safe for white folks! In "Jedi," the most insulting installment when Vader's beautiful black visage is SULLIED when he pulls off his mask to reveal a feeble, crusty old white man! They trying to tell us that deep inside, we all wants to be WHITE!!!

Banky: Well, isn't that true?

(Hooper pulls out a gun, releases the safety, kicks over the podium and shoots Banky several times, and Banky falls, clutching his chest. All the other speakers and audience members (excluding Holden and Alyssa who we are about to meet) dive for cover or scatter screaming as...)

Hooper: (shooting into the air): Black rage!!! Black rage!!! I kill all white folks I lay my motherfuckin' eyes on!!
 
Sir Burn I believe you are sadly mistaken. Hooper was referring to ep4 through 6 while Raz mentioned Star Wars ep 1 specifically.
(However that is one of the funniest scenes in a Smith film)


Raz please Elaborate
 
i know..i just love that scene and this seemed like the only chance i'd have of posting it..though i think there is some relevance as the theme of the movie is generally the same throughout the series.

The only thing that pissed me off no end is that fucking Jar-Jar Binks. Obi Wan shouldve sliced and diced that fucker and joined the dark side;)
 
beanergrl said:

I also like to pretend that Thelma and Louise went off that cliff and lived somehow. That movie never settled with me right because of the ending. Perhaps they landed in a tree, i dunno. But in my Thelma and Louise ending they are off living happliy ever after in Mexico where they are lovers.
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*ROTFLMAO*

I love you! :)

I LOVE Thelma and Louise...and yes I think your ending would be a good plan!

My choice:

Jeepers Creepers. Off the top of my head, this is the WORST movie I have EVER seen. Watching it made me want to repeatedly bash my head into the back of the seat in front of me with the hopes that I would knock myself silly and possibly hallucinate something more interesting.
 
Originally posted by LapDawg
Gee...this seems awfully familiar to the thread regarding Movies that you hate/think are worthless.


assuming everybody responds in the 'right' way, i don't think it actually is. there's plenty of movies that i think are worthless, or hate, that don't necessarily make me angry. a movie can be shit for a whole variety of reasons (script; bad performances; bad cinematography etc.), but only some of these are bound to get me angry.

also, it's the thematic elements which tend to make some people more angry whereas this is less often something which results in just distaste for the film :)
 
^^^to retort, I would say it's simply logical to associate anger with hatred. After all, Yoda does...anger leads to hate! =D Our harsh responses/critiques of any film would connect to negativity towards it, and well in that realm anger and hate go hand-in-hand. After all, doesn't anger come from some form of hatred or discontent? And to say you hated a film but it didn't make you angry...wouldn't that be a slight contradiction? Flip it around and say the film made you angry but you don't hate it...well to be angry, there had to be something to spark that emotional distress, such as disliking, or a lesser, but similar value to hatred. You might not hate the film overall, but for it to make you angry, you had to hate something about it. The bottom line is, you didn't like it.

But getting back to something you said, how would you explain a "right" way of responding?
 
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^^^Actually I agree with 1234 on this one. Dancer in the Dark made me angry as hell...so did Bowling for Columbine, and there are times when I'm watching Dogville or The Baby of Macon where I'm really pissed off for whatever reason...but these are some of my favourite movies. Being angry isn't necessarily a bad thing...in all of these films, the reason I'm angry is because good people are being fucked over (in the case of Bowling for Columbine, in real life even). I think it's good to be angry about this stuff...it stirs up empathy and makes you think about other people's problems.

On the other hand, I really really intensely disliked the George Clooney remake of Solaris, because it was boring as fuck. Didn't make me angry though...

Anger and hatred can be the same thing, but they don't need to be...

And to answer about Episode 1....it's been a while so forgive me if I've got the references wrong, but here goes: one of the first alien races we see in the movie (the bad guys iirc) are based on either traditional Japanese or Chinese culture (I forget which). The guy who owns Anakin Skywalker is clearly meant to be a Jew analog. Jar Jar Binks is a slovenly black guy whose race lives under the sea where they don't have any real bearing on things until the white folk come and rally them.

If this were meant to be a mature scifi film and the analogies were there to make some kind of point about perspectives on race and culture in our world, hey more power to em...but it's not. It's marketted as a fairy tale towards kids, and it gives across the impression that Jews are soulless gold-diggers and black people are shiftless lazy-asses who aren't much more than a slave race for the triumphant white hero. Adults are gonna look at that and maybe not even notice it, but it's stuff like that which shapes kids' perceptions and THAT's why it pisses me off so much.
 
Bowling for Columbine, Anger Management, Blue Velvet (Worthless film), JEEPERS CREEPERS, Joyride, and much much more.

Bowling for Columbine for obvious reasons...

I walked out of Anger Management wanting to stab Jack in the eye, and he used be one of my favorite actors, now he just irritates the shit outta me.

Blue Velvet I just thought was a completely pointless movie. I enjoyed the cinematography in the film, but the plot...oh boy was the plot oh so useless and littered with holes. I felt no connection with the characters besides wanting to slap them upside the head for the awful lines they delivered... everything was so forced and uninteresting.

Jeepers Creepers and Joyride were just so terrible I'd rather drink my own piss for entertainment than watch them again.
 
And to answer about Episode 1....it's been a while so forgive me if I've got the references wrong, but here goes: one of the first alien races we see in the movie (the bad guys iirc) are based on either traditional Japanese or Chinese culture (I forget which). The guy who owns Anakin Skywalker is clearly meant to be a Jew analog. Jar Jar Binks is a slovenly black guy whose race lives under the sea where they don't have any real bearing on things until the white folk come and rally them.
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8) Well alright.........
 
Mulholland Drive
I know there are a lot of David Lynch fans out there but this movie did nothing but shit me to tears.
Confusing, drawn out and far too long.
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to me mulholland drive is The Masterpiece.
even without understanding it, the aesthetic is wonderful, the acting is perfect, the realisation is genius, the mood is magic

i hadn't understood anything when i left the theater, but i already loved it.
then i spent the night looking for answers on the internet and was surprised to find a really logical explanation to the story.
check this article, it may take away the frustration. because it seems that people who haven't liked the film are only people who found no logic in the plot.

or maybe it's just not at all your kind of movie
a rapper has good chances not to like a rock concert



as for movies that angered me :
in the room, and punch drunk love
i left the theater after 30 minutes, really pissed to have wasted my money
 
big fish..my gf wanted to see it, it was so damn stupid me and my buddies juss spark a joint and passed it around
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you're too old
leave it to us kids to enjoy tim's movies :)
 
Raz-

I see your point, and it is a good one. My argument would be that something about the film made you angry, and it was something detailed in the film. There are definitely films out there that are designed to strike a feeling of anger/discontent because of the characters, plot, whatever it may be...and while you may not associate anger with hatred of the film, whatever kind of anger it was comes from some form of hatred for a personal reason, be it low-level (dislike) or high-level (absolutely detest). An example: Bowling for Columbine...if you like the film, you probably disliked Charlton Heston or Dick Clark for their portrayals in the film and their seeming ignorance and/or actions, thus evoking the feeling of anger, an emotional cousin to big daddy hatred. :D

I feel that your examples are simply a small minority when it comes to a thread like this. The way you see it is VERY specific, as opposed to my more generalized point of view...the view the majority of people probably would consider when thinking about the topic, especially with how the initial poster wrote his/her comment.

I think a topic such as "Movies/Characters/Scenes that evoke strong emotions" or something similar would suit what you're looking for better.

Great job on the Episode 1 breakdown there. I remember all of that backlash when it first came out...especially about the Viceroy and the Asian similarities.
 
LapDawg said:
I feel that your examples are simply a small minority when it comes to a thread like this. The way you see it is VERY specific, as opposed to my more generalized point of view...the view the majority of people probably would consider when thinking about the topic, especially with how the initial poster wrote his/her comment.

I think a topic such as "Movies/Characters/Scenes that evoke strong emotions" or something similar would suit what you're looking for better.
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Fair enuff...I guess it comes down to interpretation; I'm assuming that's what 1234 meant when he talked about responding in the 'right' way...and I disagree that anger necessarily has to have anything to do with hatred, but like I said that's just a personal interpretation... :)
 
Roger and Me, by Michael Moore. Anyone who has seen it should understand.

Jurassic Park III. Christ, I hated that movie on so many levels, and I felt so fucking cheated by the ending.
 
Raz said:
Fair enuff...I guess it comes down to interpretation.
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Agreed, and frankly...I think your point of view, as well as 1234's I'm assuming, does make this slightly different than the movies you hate thread, however fine the line between the two may be.

Following your lead a bit...

Movies that anger me: Ones that show scenes in the trailer that never make it to the final cut. ( I swear I saw an early preview of Attack of the Clones w/ Gabriel Byrne and Christopher Walken in it...but I guess my eyes deceived me)
 
Mystic River. It was a GREAT movie, but I was strongly angered at Sean Penn for killing Tim Robin's character even though he was innocent of the crime. After a few weeks I thought about it again and I guess in his situation, I could *see* someone doing the same thing, even though I can not imagine a situation where I would kill another human being, for any reason other than self defense. I am not a violent person and I do not beleive killing solves anything, no matter what has been done.

Yeah... it just pissed me off alot... the ending was very emotional. Hard to take.
 
lol, I saw almost every movie mentioned in this thread and none of them made me angry(well, bowling for columbine came close...).

I never thought of Episode 1 like that =D maybe next time I see it I`ll think of the same things Raz mentioned. Maybe I didn`t get the references the first time I saw it, but I thought it was an ok movie(actually, I`m one of the few people I know that liked all of the StarWars movies)

I also don`t get why people are enraged by strange( "bad" ) endings to movies. I don`t really mind how it ends, I mean, most things in life don`t go out with a bang, why should every movie go out with a bang? I can understand that you think that if a movie is good, the ending should be good, and sometimes it does feel kind of weird, but I`m not going to let a bad ending ruin a movie for me.
 
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